Let's chat about chatter - Page 3

rojoracing53 · May 20th, 2014, 05:23 PM

You don't have to bottom out the forks to get chatter, you could just be cornering in to low of the range. I still vote you front end is to low in the stroke, wether that's mainly because your forks are to soft of your rear shock is to stiff and end results is pretty much the same. I'm still running a stock shock so it comparison through the corner my forks are way stiffer then the shock. I would aim toward adjusting the balance more toward the rear in any way you feel fit besides ride height. These little bike at there's speeds don't seem to respond much to geometry changes because no matter what I have it set at it all seems to handle just a well.

csmith12 · May 20th, 2014, 05:28 PM

I see, and that makes logical sense as it relates to my situation. I know my setup gets really, really hard in the lower stroke range.

I have a plan and will update with the changes & results. If new parts are in my future, so be it.

Thanks guys!

alex.s · May 20th, 2014, 06:30 PM

cbinker · May 21st, 2014, 07:12 AM

i think there is a possibility i may experience a similar problem. Stock fork with GSXR rear. I know i cannot afford springs and emuators, but the emulators you speak of, does that come with everything I need, or do I need to purchase more things to have it installed properly?

csmith12 · May 21st, 2014, 07:23 AM

Just some tools and time. For track purposes, use the yellow spring in the kit, getting it set up to go fast is pretty easy, getting it set up to go even faster is the hard part.

I went with racetech springs, but sonic spring are cheaper so I heard, no experience here.

cbinker · May 21st, 2014, 07:41 AM

I just looked at the race tech site, maybe i can do springs first then emulators later. I can just go with the gold valve cartridge kit right? I dont think it is possible for me to spend $1200 on the race version.

csmith12 · May 21st, 2014, 07:48 AM

I didn't drop $1200 bones on those bits, yea, get springs first that is the important part. The emulator kit/oil is for tweaking it out and all.

alex.s · May 21st, 2014, 07:57 AM

the italian one that dean got was cheaper... $800 or 900 i think? paging dino...

cbinker · May 21st, 2014, 09:45 AM

I ordered the gold valve kit and .80 springs, should be here next week! Should be around $200 for all of it, my Dealer likes to hook me up with deals.

alex.s · May 21st, 2014, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbinker

I ordered the gold valve kit and .80 springs, should be here next week! Should be around $200 for all of it, my Dealer likes to hook me up with deals.

can your dealer hook me up with some deals too?

cbinker · May 21st, 2014, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

can your dealer hook me up with some deals too?

it is possible, but shipping to you may offset the savings.

cuong-nutz · May 21st, 2014, 12:28 PM

Damn that's a deal

May 20th, 2014, 05:28 PM	#82
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	I see, and that makes logical sense as it relates to my situation. I know my setup gets really, really hard in the lower stroke range. I have a plan and will update with the changes & results. If new parts are in my future, so be it. Thanks guys! __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

May 20th, 2014, 06:30 PM	#83
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	__________________________________________________
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May 21st, 2014, 07:12 AM	#84
cbinker Track Clown Name: Chris Location: Kingman, AZ Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): '08 250R, 21 MV F3 800, Kawasaki 400 build Posts: A lot. MOTM - Sep '15	i think there is a possibility i may experience a similar problem. Stock fork with GSXR rear. I know i cannot afford springs and emuators, but the emulators you speak of, does that come with everything I need, or do I need to purchase more things to have it installed properly? __________________________________________________ TEAM ALFALFA www.apexassassins.com

May 21st, 2014, 07:23 AM	#85
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Just some tools and time. For track purposes, use the yellow spring in the kit, getting it set up to go fast is pretty easy, getting it set up to go even faster is the hard part. I went with racetech springs, but sonic spring are cheaper so I heard, no experience here. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

May 21st, 2014, 07:41 AM	#86
cbinker Track Clown Name: Chris Location: Kingman, AZ Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): '08 250R, 21 MV F3 800, Kawasaki 400 build Posts: A lot. MOTM - Sep '15	I just looked at the race tech site, maybe i can do springs first then emulators later. I can just go with the gold valve cartridge kit right? I dont think it is possible for me to spend $1200 on the race version. __________________________________________________ TEAM ALFALFA www.apexassassins.com

May 20th, 2014, 05:23 PM	#81
rojoracing53 Fast-Guy wannabe Name: Jason Location: Brentwood, Ca Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja250, 2011 RM-Z250, 2004 NSR50, Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '13	You don't have to bottom out the forks to get chatter, you could just be cornering in to low of the range. I still vote you front end is to low in the stroke, wether that's mainly because your forks are to soft of your rear shock is to stiff and end results is pretty much the same. I'm still running a stock shock so it comparison through the corner my forks are way stiffer then the shock. I would aim toward adjusting the balance more toward the rear in any way you feel fit besides ride height. These little bike at there's speeds don't seem to respond much to geometry changes because no matter what I have it set at it all seems to handle just a well.

May 21st, 2014, 07:48 AM	#87
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	I didn't drop $1200 bones on those bits, yea, get springs first that is the important part. The emulator kit/oil is for tweaking it out and all. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

May 21st, 2014, 07:57 AM	#88
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	the italian one that dean got was cheaper... $800 or 900 i think? paging dino... __________________________________________________

May 21st, 2014, 09:45 AM	#89
cbinker Track Clown Name: Chris Location: Kingman, AZ Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): '08 250R, 21 MV F3 800, Kawasaki 400 build Posts: A lot. MOTM - Sep '15	I ordered the gold valve kit and .80 springs, should be here next week! Should be around $200 for all of it, my Dealer likes to hook me up with deals. __________________________________________________ TEAM ALFALFA www.apexassassins.com
	2 out of 2 members found this post helpful.

May 21st, 2014, 12:28 PM	#92
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	Damn that's a deal __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

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