Track Tool Kit

[Knolly]

So whenever I go to the track I bring along two giant ass toolboxes with roughly every tool I own.

I have recently come to realize this is a really stupid thing to do.

Has anyone taken the time to figure out every tool you could need to disassemble a 250? Over the winter I'm going to go through and make a list of every possible socket size, etc, but I just figured I'd check in case anyone had already had this idea before. My goal is to just have as small and minimalist of a kit as possible, then throw a torque adapter in there and call it a day.

[alex.s]

disassembling the bike:

jis cross screw driver, a flat head also comes in handy
set of allen wrenches (i prefer the ones that snap onto a ratchet, then you can use extenders and things)
sockets: 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 17
open-loop wrenches: 10,12,14 (you want these for securing locknuts etc since you can't get to the back nut while you're on the front nut.
chain breaker/riveter.
a pair of channel-locks come in handy.
a hammer or mallet comes in handy
spare rags and paper towels
blue locktite, high temp gasket maker, moly grease, spare oil, spare water wetter, brake fluid, lots of ducttape, zipties and safety wire (don't forget the safetywire tool)
spare controls come in handy when you crash.


disassembling the engine: everything above plus:
- clutch hub vice
- size 11, 21, 23, 27 sockets.
- impact wrench helps
- patience

... i feel like i'm forgetting something.

keep in mind, unless you plan on repairing after crashing or making large scale changes (bad idea at the track) you don't need any of this ****


minimal track-day kit:
ducttape AND painters tape, zipties, shade, water and electrolytes

[adouglas]

Copied and put into my "trackday random notes" file.

I'd add


Hand cleaner
Magnetic pickup tool
Misc. spare fasteners for the ones that are going to go missing
Flashlight
Multitool (mostly for the knife but you never know)
Magnetic tray for fasteners


Torque wrench? Is that overkill? I'm a bit OCD about torquing stuff.

[min nin]

Tools for truck and trailer also. And you may need to repair another vehicle/bike while there.

Min nin.

[alex.s]

ah the flashlight. how could i have forgotten yee.

[tooblekain]

Originally Posted by alex.s

disassembling the bike:

jis cross screw driver, a flat head also comes in handy
set of allen wrenches (i prefer the ones that snap onto a ratchet, then you can use extenders and things)
sockets: 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 17
open-loop wrenches: 10,12,14 (you want these for securing locknuts etc since you can't get to the back nut while you're on the front nut.
chain breaker/riveter.
a pair of channel-locks come in handy.
a hammer or mallet comes in handy
spare rags and paper towels
blue locktite, high temp gasket maker, moly grease, spare oil, spare water wetter, brake fluid, lots of ducttape, zipties and safety wire (don't forget the safetywire tool)
spare controls come in handy when you crash.


disassembling the engine: everything above plus:
- clutch hub vice
- size 11, 21, 23, 27 sockets.
- impact wrench helps
- patience

... i feel like i'm forgetting something.

keep in mind, unless you plan on repairing after crashing or making large scale changes (bad idea at the track) you don't need any of this ****


minimal track-day kit:
ducttape AND painters tape, zipties, shade, water and electrolytes

That list is solid, but dont forget the socket sizes 24mm, 19mm, and 22mm so you can take the wheels off. I DO also keep a valve core removal tool and some spare valve cores. I've had a couple of them bend and either not hold air or unable to inflate or check pressures. Or you can just hope that the tire vendor trackside is willing to give you a core and his tool.

Adjustable spanner wrench if you need to remove the triples and get to the headstock bearings.

Wait a minute...OP...Knolly....or you on the D675 forum?!?

[alex.s]

ahh the wheels. i always forget about the wheels!

[csmith12]

Originally Posted by adouglas

Torque wrench? Is that overkill? I'm a bit OCD about torquing stuff.

Yes, bring it for wheels, brakes and sprocks. Don't wanna be guessing that crap. Some do, I don't.

[alex.s]

i use german torque specs


Gudandtite!

[Knolly]

Awesome, thanks everyone! Now gotta find a toolbox with some nice drawers or something so I can do that super-clean foam cutout thingy and have spots for everything. Or just say **** it and throw everything in one big compartment.

Originally Posted by tooblekain

Wait a minute...OP...Knolly....or you on the D675 forum?!?

That's me! Caught the 250 bug earlier this year.

[dino74]

Originally Posted by alex.s

i use german torque specs


Gudandtite!

That's all relative. People have various sizes of tools.

Whats good and tight for me might be small and loose for you.

[csmith12]

Originally Posted by dino74

That's all relative. People have various sizes of tools.

Whats good and tight for me might be small and loose for you.

That's what she said.

bwahahahahhahahahahahahahaha

[tooblekain]

Originally Posted by Knolly

Awesome, thanks everyone! Now gotta find a toolbox with some nice drawers or something so I can do that super-clean foam cutout thingy and have spots for everything. Or just say **** it and throw everything in one big compartment.



That's me! Caught the 250 bug earlier this year.

Here's a toolbox I have been having my eye on that may work well. I have a Keter toolbox in another form and like it!

http://www.atgstores.com/tool-boxes/...g&gclsrc=aw.ds

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by tooblekain

Here's a toolbox I have been having my eye on that may work well. I have a Keter toolbox in another form and like it!

http://www.atgstores.com/tool-boxes/...g&gclsrc=aw.ds

i have a crappier one (without the drawers) and i've had issues with the hinges on the top... two out of 8 of the little hinge things have broken. i mean it still works, but i don't think it should break. next box i buy is going to be full metal hinged.

[dino74]

I'm a big fan of this toolbox from sears:
http://www.sears.com/craftsman-4-dra...p-00965398000P

[alex.s]

can confirm. i have old craftsman metal boxes at the garage. they're over 30 years old and you wouldn't even know it aside from the faded paint. work just as well a brand new one. i used to use a metal ammo box for my track tools, but it was drab green and would get really hot to the touch in the desert sun.

[bruce71198]

Originally Posted by alex.s

disassembling the engine: everything above plus:
- clutch hub vice
- size 11, 21, 23, 27 sockets.
- impact wrench helps
- patience

... i feel like i'm forgetting something.

Flywheel puller

[alex.s]

why would you need to pull the flywheel?

[bruce71198]

You said "disassembling the engine " , "I feel I'm forgetting something ". Your quote not mine. I just thought if you where going to take your engine apart at the track (?) you would be pissed trying to get that stuborn flywheel off. Perhaps I should have asked, why would you take your engine apart at the track? And , if you want to service it at the track, in a given small time frame, "patience" probably aren't needed. LOL

[alex.s]

you don't take the flywheel off to disassemble the engine on the 250. unless you specifically need to remove the flywheel because it is damaged. and unless you carry a spare flywheel to the track... typically the flywheel and crank stay together since there is never a need to remove it (like i said unless it specifically has damage)

also, these bikes crash well but sometimes throw the external linkage forks off the shift hub in a lowside. being able to fix it and race the next day is nice. the transmission can be finicky in crashes and just needs to be rebuilt often with no real damage (so long as the bike didn't keep running you know)

[DCMoney]

Ah good, no need for me to drag my tools to the track any longer!

[bruce71198]

Originally Posted by alex.s

you don't take the flywheel off to disassemble the engine on the

How do you machine the crankshaft if you don't remove the flywheel? How do you lighten the flywheel if you don't take it off

my flywheel puller is in my track box. It's as important to me as the tools I need to jet my carbs.

[DCMoney]

Originally Posted by bruce71198

How do you machine the crankshaft if you don't remove the flywheel? How do you lighten the flywheel if you don't take it off

my flywheel puller is in my track box. It's as important to me as the tools I need to jet my carbs.

[bruce71198]

Thanks for posting my photo. I haven't mastered the I phone

[Sirref]

Originally Posted by alex.s

ahh the wheels. i always forget about the wheels!

you remembered the engine though right? ...right?

thanks for the list for me to copy over to "I should probably buy this at some point so I can do more stuff than just what the tools my bike came with can do" list. the flashlight is a good idea too especially if you're there for a weekend instead of a day.

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by bruce71198

How do you machine the crankshaft if you don't remove the flywheel? How do you lighten the flywheel if you don't take it off

my flywheel puller is in my track box. It's as important to me as the tools I need to jet my carbs.

nah man, just turn the bike on it's right side, take the chain off, take the flywheel cover off, and use a sharp knife while the engine is on. good idea to wear safety glasses. the bike becomes it's own lathe!

[bruce71198]

Originally Posted by alex.s

nah man, just turn the bike on it's right side, take the chain off, take the flywheel cover off, and use a sharp knife while the engine is on. good idea to wear safety glasses. the bike becomes it's own lathe!

And that reminds me, I need to bring my lathe and I might as well throw in the Bridgeport, never know when you might need to scim a little off the head or bore a cylinder ! I'm going to need a bigger track box....

[Foxrider64]

I'd add JB Weld, a drill and bits (for suturing plastics)....

And how was duct tape not listed?? Did I miss it?

[iZapp]

why in the world would anybody be wrenching on their engine at the track, let alone removing flywheels - seriously has anyone ever extracted a motor and split the cases between heat races??? besides a handful of sockets and spare pegs/levers/clipons, after two years of crashing the **** out of our bike, i've never needed anything else at the track... supporting an aspiring rider with no regard for the well-being of the bike he's riding, that's saying alot!

[bruce71198]

Originally Posted by iZapp

why in the world would anybody be wrenching on their engine at the track, let alone removing flywheels

I have used track days to test and tune my bike. Do you know where your ignition timing is set? Do you know how to change it? Do you know how much more or less timing you can run with different fuels and what effect this has on power output? Have you ever had a magnet come off a flywheel and needed to get the broken pieces out of your engine?

[r6boater]

Originally Posted by iZapp

why in the world would anybody be wrenching on their engine at the track, let alone removing flywheels - seriously has anyone ever extracted a motor and split the cases between heat races??? besides a handful of sockets and spare pegs/levers/clipons, after two years of crashing the **** out of our bike, i've never needed anything else at the track... supporting an aspiring rider with no regard for the well-being of the bike he's riding, that's saying alot!

Try running a 125 two-stroke... did it more than once. After spending 4-8hours driving to the track for some practice sessions and a couple races, you want to get your money's worth. Therefore you try to take as much as you can as to be able to salvage the weekend.

[iZapp]

Originally Posted by bruce71198

I have used track days to test and tune my bike. Do you know where your ignition timing is set? Do you know how to change it? Do you know how much more or less timing you can run with different fuels and what effect this has on power output? Have you ever had a magnet come off a flywheel and needed to get the broken pieces out of your engine?

not trying to start a pissing contest here, but the answer is basically "no" because a) these engine are bulletproof and b) i do all my tuning on a dyno. tuning at the track is only feasible if you are capable of running lap times within a few tenths of each other and you have signficant changes to make, or if you have onboard data acquisition (and even that's questionable). to me, getting the most use out of a trackday involves getting your engine dialed in before you even leave home and then using the track to dial in gearing and suspension if needed, and spend the rest of your time adjusting the nut connected to the handlebars. merry xmas everyone.

[bruce71198]

Originally Posted by iZapp

not trying to start a pissing contest here, but the answer is basically "no" because a) these engine are bulletproof and b) i do all my tuning on a dyno. tuning at the track is only feasible if you are capable of running lap times within a few tenths of each other and you have signficant changes to make, or if you have onboard data acquisition (and even that's questionable). to me, getting the most use out of a trackday involves getting your engine dialed in before you even leave home and then using the track to dial in gearing and suspension if needed, and spend the rest of your time adjusting the nut connected to the handlebars. merry xmas everyone.

Ya I can see the reasoning there. I don't have a dyno at my disposal and enjoy working on my bikes whenever wherever. So I bring what I need. I guess that's what it boils down to, bring what YOU need.

[bitaria]

FatMax toolbox worked really well for me over the years.

[r6boater]

Originally Posted by bitaria

FatMax toolbox worked really well for me over the years.

Same box we use... LOVE it!

[iZapp]

dammit!! christmas was just YESTERdAY!!! that's a nice box.

[Greenlawnracing]

Originally Posted by bitaria

FatMax toolbox worked really well for me over the years.

I roll my entire toolbox into the trailer, but before I had an enclosed I had the Craftsman model of this. Works great, and easy to load.

[Nemesis]

Originally Posted by dino74

I'm a big fan of this toolbox from sears:
http://www.sears.com/craftsman-4-dra...p-00965398000P

Yup...I have the same.

Great minds think alike.