Top Speed

Kokosun · October 11th, 2012, 12:02 AM

Sorry if this is the wrong section, or if this has already been discussed extensively. I did a search and while I could find several references to 'top speed' I didn't find a thread that was discussing it in general.

I was wondering what 'top speed' people generally get from their Ninjettes on flat (track) conditions.

My top speed is 95mph. This was flat track surface with a slight headwind (perhaps 8mph)

I have a 2002 model and the only modification was to change the front sprocket from 14 to 15. Other than that, it's exactly as it rolled off the production line. I weigh 190lbs. I'm not sure how much with all of my gear on, but I'm guessing at least another 20lbs.

As an aside, funny how 95mph on a track feels like 60mph on the road.

Jiggles · October 11th, 2012, 12:34 AM

Don't forget to account for speedo error

Kokosun · October 11th, 2012, 01:47 AM

Good point Jiggles.

This was the 'indicated' speed ... on the speedo. Also, the 2002 has an analog speedo, so this reading was based on my looking down at the dial and reading off what I thought it said.

CC Cowboy · October 11th, 2012, 10:06 AM

Roger, you weigh 190lbs. These bikes are made for girls that weigh in at 100lbs or less. So you need to lose at least 90 lbs and start cross dressing (again).

Kokosun · October 11th, 2012, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

Roger, you weigh 190lbs. These bikes are made for girls that weigh in at 100lbs or less. So you need to lose at least 90 lbs and start cross dressing (again).

LOL

You're partially correct. I do need to lose 'lbs'. But, a few months ago I weighed in at 228, so I'm making progress there. My objective is to be 175 by the end of the year. I'm not sure that I'll make it, but that's my target. the weight loss should be good for another couple of mph.

On the cross-dressing part ... hmm! I live in a house with three women (wife and two daughters), so there's ample opportunity for me to borrow their clothes. Will that make my Ninjette go faster or enable me to ride better? If so, I might consider it.

Incidentally (everyone) I want to stress that I'm not fixated on the straight-line speed of my bike. 95mph is PLENTY fast enough for me. I prefer riding at much lower speeds along twisty roads. I was just interested in how our different bikes perform and straight line speeds is something that we can all compare.

choneofakind · October 11th, 2012, 10:32 AM

yes - ladies clothes will make you go at least 10 mph faster, but your your top end gained through such methods will only get stronger with more pictures taken of the event.

NevadaWolf · October 11th, 2012, 11:42 AM

Hurm, interesting. When I first attempted to find my top speed I found a (*place and time undisclosed*) and just let her rip. hit the red line just as I was going a bit over 90 per the speedometer and I could not get it past that point before I ran out of straight and flat road.

Oh um, stock '12 while wearing leathers on top of the 160lb bag of rocks already sitting in the saddle.

EsrTek · October 11th, 2012, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kokosun

I was wondering what 'top speed' people generally get from their Ninjettes on flat (track) conditions.

Not enough

Joshy715 · October 11th, 2012, 12:18 PM

I took my 2008 Ninja 250 downhill at about 102 mph and I weigh 145 lbs. I'm not sure if the speedometer is accurate.

choneofakind · October 11th, 2012, 01:42 PM

@Joshy715 welcome to ninjette!

You're about an hour south of me. I'm in the Cleveland-Akron area.

You should come hang out with a few of us next time that we head to Mid-Ohio next summer. Better yet, just come ride with us

I know so far that csmith12, myself, codestp202 are tentatively planning one (or a few) next summer. Nautica is interested as well. csmith12 practically lives at the track

Anyhow, welcome to ninjette, I'll be sure to tag you in the planning thread this winter once we get it going.

alex.s · October 11th, 2012, 03:58 PM

revlimiter in 6th gear with stock gearing is 105mph IIRC. getting to redline is not hitting the rev limiter.

Racer x · October 11th, 2012, 04:01 PM

123 mph and going still pulling

choneofakind · October 11th, 2012, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

revlimiter in 6th gear with stock gearing is 105mph IIRC.

Yay for pre-gen's with a 14.5k rev-limiter!

Joshy715 · October 11th, 2012, 06:09 PM

@choneofakind That's awesome!! I don't ride the Ninja much because I have my own bike but my brothers ride it all the time. I actually ran across this website looking for some parts and it is really cool!! I live 2 miles down the road from Mid Ohio.

choneofakind · October 11th, 2012, 06:23 PM

2 miles?? Dude, you have no excuse to not hang with us then!!

dreezo560 · October 11th, 2012, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer x

123 mph and going still pulling

I don't believe you ... prove it ... lol

SPG · October 11th, 2012, 09:16 PM

The highest I've seen after downloading the data from my GPS laptimer is 104mph at the end of the straight. That is with a pipe, jetting, and gearing.

-Sean

dreezo560 · October 11th, 2012, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPG

The highest I've seen after downloading the data from my GPS laptimer is 104mph at the end of the straight. That is with a pipe, jetting, and gearing.

-Sean

Nice .. I top out at 95 like the other guy... based on my Speedometer in all its accurate glory ... (insert sarcasm) I am curious as to how Racer X reached 123 Mph though..

choneofakind · October 11th, 2012, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreezo560

Nice .. I top out at 95 like the other guy... based on my Speedometer in all its accurate glory ... (insert sarcasm) I am curious as to how Racer X reached 123 Mph though..

Lots of internal engine work, lots of dyno time, and a nicely mapped nitrous system. He is the world record holder for a ninja 250 top speed. Check out his blog. Pretty neat.

dreezo560 · October 11th, 2012, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Lots of internal engine work, lots of dyno time, and a nicely mapped nitrous system. He is the world record holder for a ninja 250 top speed. Check out his blog. Pretty neat.

Ahh crap nitro ... not messin with that stuff ... plus that sounds expensive as hell... lol

dreezo560 · October 11th, 2012, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPG

The highest I've seen after downloading the data from my GPS laptimer is 104mph at the end of the straight. That is with a pipe, jetting, and gearing.

-Sean

Did you just get the exhaust or the full system with the Jetting and what is gearing comprised of?

Racer x · October 11th, 2012, 10:50 PM

These are just test runs. Next year will be faster. The engine is a 265 cc so it is in the 350 class. Next year I will be running a 250 from hell.

http://ecta-lsr.com/

350 CC NON-Pushrod Records
9605 M/TG-350/4 Brew Bikes Steve Garn Jul-12 98.667
9605 M/TF-350/4 Brew Bikes Steve Garn Jul-12 98.531
9623 MPS/G-350/4 Dark Horse Racing Eric Roehrle Apr-12 109.562
9623 MPS/F-350/4 Dark Horse Racing Eric Roehrle Sep-12 123.369
9623 MPS/TG-350/4 Dark Horse Racing Eric Roehrle Jul-12 101.983
9623 MPS/TF-350/4 Dark Horse Racing Eric Roehrle Jul-12 111.042

JA-Moo · October 11th, 2012, 11:30 PM

Weigh does not directly effect top speed, it effects acceleration. Your "size" may create more air drag, but your weight is not a factor.

Kokosun · October 11th, 2012, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer x

These are just test runs. Next year will be faster. The engine is a 265 cc so it is in the 350 class. Next year I will be running a 250 from hell.

And next year ... those that are reasonably close ... should be there to watch.

Kokosun · October 11th, 2012, 11:37 PM

Incidentally, when I was at 95, I wasn't on the rev-limiter. In fact I'm sure that there was lots of rev's left. That was just as fast as the bike would go. I guess that based on the comments here, if I'd have another ten or twenty miles of track ahead of me, I might have gone faster. But, it didn't feel as if the bike would go faster - no matter how much track was available.

NevadaWolf · October 11th, 2012, 11:51 PM

@Kokosun That's how mine felt too. 6th gear, redlining, just above 90, and no more oomph. I kept checking my hand to see if I had more throttle to give but nope.

Racer x · October 12th, 2012, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kokosun

And next year ... those that are reasonably close ... should be there to watch.

Defiantly
Because next year there will be contingent of 250s.

My bike will be there developing the nitrous . There will be a couple vintage 250s 1954 BMW r25s that set records at Bonniville this year. There will be a four cylinder Yamaha 250 screaming down the track at 19000 rpm and hopefully a Honda single with nitrous fuel injection and nitrous .
Next year will be a 250 cc assault on the record book.

The first race is April 27-28 in Wilmington Ohio.

DM2790 · October 19th, 2012, 10:12 AM

Haha. I wish my ninja would go 123+. The fastest I have gotten mine was about 105. That was even going downhill.

csmith12 · October 19th, 2012, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshy715

@choneofakind That's awesome!! I don't ride the Ninja much because I have my own bike but my brothers ride it all the time. I actually ran across this website looking for some parts and it is really cool!! I live 2 miles down the road from Mid Ohio.

It's mandatory, don't make us mob your crib when we are there.

TheDementedDrummer · October 26th, 2012, 09:21 AM

Done an indicate 170 kph, about 106 mph, with a bit of tailwind.
I weigh like 130 lbs, plus leathers, so that might be a factor as well

oblivion007 · October 26th, 2012, 09:55 AM

I indicated 100 for the first time on a flat road yesterday. Stock 11, I weigh 165, and I recently had a tune job about two months ago. Took what seemed like forever to go from 97-100 haha.

Before I would only indicate 95 top, and about 103 down hill.

October 11th, 2012, 12:02 AM	#1
Kokosun Are you sure about that? Name: That's "Sir" to you! Location: Chorleywood (Nr. London) Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R-F16, Versys KLE650 CAF Posts: 418	Top Speed Sorry if this is the wrong section, or if this has already been discussed extensively. I did a search and while I could find several references to 'top speed' I didn't find a thread that was discussing it in general. I was wondering what 'top speed' people generally get from their Ninjettes on flat (track) conditions. My top speed is 95mph. This was flat track surface with a slight headwind (perhaps 8mph) I have a 2002 model and the only modification was to change the front sprocket from 14 to 15. Other than that, it's exactly as it rolled off the production line. I weigh 190lbs. I'm not sure how much with all of my gear on, but I'm guessing at least another 20lbs. As an aside, funny how 95mph on a track feels like 60mph on the road.

October 11th, 2012, 12:34 AM	#2
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Don't forget to account for speedo error __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

October 11th, 2012, 10:06 AM	#4
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Roger, you weigh 190lbs. These bikes are made for girls that weigh in at 100lbs or less. So you need to lose at least 90 lbs and start cross dressing (again). __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

October 11th, 2012, 11:42 AM	#7
NevadaWolf Certified looney toon Name: Teri Location: 39°52'40.7"N 118°23'53.8"W (Northern NV) Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 102k+ miles -- 2014 CB500X, 42k+ miles Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 16 MOTM Jul '13, Jul '14	Hurm, interesting. When I first attempted to find my top speed I found a (place and time undisclosed) and just let her rip. hit the red line just as I was going a bit over 90 per the speedometer and I could not get it past that point before I ran out of straight and flat road. Oh um, stock '12 while wearing leathers on top of the 160lb bag of rocks already sitting in the saddle. __________________________________________________ <-- Linky Hey Unregistered! The code [you] shows the username currently logged in. IBA # 56020 AMA # 521481 Fun Rides! ][ My Videos ][ My Gear Hold yourself to the same rules you expect others to follow.

October 11th, 2012, 12:18 PM	#9
Joshy715 ninjette.org newbie Name: Joshua Location: Mansfield, Ohio Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 red Ninja 250, 1990 Yamaha xt600 Posts: 5	Top Speed I took my 2008 Ninja 250 downhill at about 102 mph and I weigh 145 lbs. I'm not sure if the speedometer is accurate.

October 11th, 2012, 01:47 AM	#3
Kokosun Are you sure about that? Name: That's "Sir" to you! Location: Chorleywood (Nr. London) Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R-F16, Versys KLE650 CAF Posts: 418	Good point Jiggles. This was the 'indicated' speed ... on the speedo. Also, the 2002 has an analog speedo, so this reading was based on my looking down at the dial and reading off what I thought it said.

October 11th, 2012, 10:32 AM	#6
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	yes - ladies clothes will make you go at least 10 mph faster, but your your top end gained through such methods will only get stronger with more pictures taken of the event.

October 11th, 2012, 01:42 PM	#10
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	@Joshy715 welcome to ninjette! You're about an hour south of me. I'm in the Cleveland-Akron area. You should come hang out with a few of us next time that we head to Mid-Ohio next summer. Better yet, just come ride with us I know so far that csmith12, myself, codestp202 are tentatively planning one (or a few) next summer. Nautica is interested as well. csmith12 practically lives at the track Anyhow, welcome to ninjette, I'll be sure to tag you in the planning thread this winter once we get it going.

October 11th, 2012, 03:58 PM	#11
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	revlimiter in 6th gear with stock gearing is 105mph IIRC. getting to redline is not hitting the rev limiter. __________________________________________________

October 11th, 2012, 04:01 PM	#12
Racer x ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Iowa City Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawmeracchi 350 2010 Project X Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 54 MOTM - Sep '18, Feb '16	123 mph and going still pulling __________________________________________________ Top speed 123.369mph. Ohio mile Worlds fastest 250 ninja

October 11th, 2012, 06:09 PM	#14
Joshy715 ninjette.org newbie Name: Joshua Location: Mansfield, Ohio Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 red Ninja 250, 1990 Yamaha xt600 Posts: 5	@choneofakind That's awesome!! I don't ride the Ninja much because I have my own bike but my brothers ride it all the time. I actually ran across this website looking for some parts and it is really cool!! I live 2 miles down the road from Mid Ohio.

October 11th, 2012, 06:23 PM	#15
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	2 miles?? Dude, you have no excuse to not hang with us then!!

October 11th, 2012, 09:16 PM	#17
SPG ninjette.org member Name: Sean Location: Seattle Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): 250 Ninjette Posts: 94	The highest I've seen after downloading the data from my GPS laptimer is 104mph at the end of the straight. That is with a pipe, jetting, and gearing. -Sean

October 11th, 2012, 10:50 PM	#22
Racer x ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Iowa City Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawmeracchi 350 2010 Project X Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 54 MOTM - Sep '18, Feb '16	These are just test runs. Next year will be faster. The engine is a 265 cc so it is in the 350 class. Next year I will be running a 250 from hell. http://ecta-lsr.com/ 350 CC NON-Pushrod Records 9605 M/TG-350/4 Brew Bikes Steve Garn Jul-12 98.667 9605 M/TF-350/4 Brew Bikes Steve Garn Jul-12 98.531 9623 MPS/G-350/4 Dark Horse Racing Eric Roehrle Apr-12 109.562 9623 MPS/F-350/4 Dark Horse Racing Eric Roehrle Sep-12 123.369 9623 MPS/TG-350/4 Dark Horse Racing Eric Roehrle Jul-12 101.983 9623 MPS/TF-350/4 Dark Horse Racing Eric Roehrle Jul-12 111.042 __________________________________________________ Top speed 123.369mph. Ohio mile Worlds fastest 250 ninja

October 11th, 2012, 11:30 PM	#23
JA-Moo ninjette.org member Name: John Location: Rio Rancho Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): many kawasaki 2 stroke triples and a 250R now. Well no more 250R, 2013 300 now Posts: 146	Weigh does not directly effect top speed, it effects acceleration. Your "size" may create more air drag, but your weight is not a factor.

October 11th, 2012, 11:37 PM	#25
Kokosun Are you sure about that? Name: That's "Sir" to you! Location: Chorleywood (Nr. London) Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R-F16, Versys KLE650 CAF Posts: 418	Incidentally, when I was at 95, I wasn't on the rev-limiter. In fact I'm sure that there was lots of rev's left. That was just as fast as the bike would go. I guess that based on the comments here, if I'd have another ten or twenty miles of track ahead of me, I might have gone faster. But, it didn't feel as if the bike would go faster - no matter how much track was available.

October 11th, 2012, 11:51 PM	#26
NevadaWolf Certified looney toon Name: Teri Location: 39°52'40.7"N 118°23'53.8"W (Northern NV) Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 102k+ miles -- 2014 CB500X, 42k+ miles Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 16 MOTM Jul '13, Jul '14	@Kokosun That's how mine felt too. 6th gear, redlining, just above 90, and no more oomph. I kept checking my hand to see if I had more throttle to give but nope. __________________________________________________ <-- Linky Hey Unregistered! The code [you] shows the username currently logged in. IBA # 56020 AMA # 521481 Fun Rides! ][ My Videos ][ My Gear Hold yourself to the same rules you expect others to follow.

October 19th, 2012, 10:12 AM	#28
DM2790 ninjette.org member Name: Duane Location: Beaver Falls, PA Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250r Posts: 10	Haha. I wish my ninja would go 123+. The fastest I have gotten mine was about 105. That was even going downhill.

October 26th, 2012, 09:21 AM	#30
TheDementedDrummer Present. Somewhat. Name: Neel Location: Bangalore, India Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 KTM Duke 200, 2011 Ninja 250r, 2011 Ducati Monster 796, 2014 Kawasaki ZX10r Posts: 227	Done an indicate 170 kph, about 106 mph, with a bit of tailwind. I weigh like 130 lbs, plus leathers, so that might be a factor as well __________________________________________________ Highest speed on two wheels- 230 km/h Beat that.

October 26th, 2012, 09:55 AM	#31
oblivion007 "scandal!" Name: Adan Location: Somewhere Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 250R(Crashed 2/26/2014), 09 ER6n Posts: 660	I indicated 100 for the first time on a flat road yesterday. Stock 11, I weigh 165, and I recently had a tune job about two months ago. Took what seemed like forever to go from 97-100 haha. Before I would only indicate 95 top, and about 103 down hill.

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