Rearset Compatibility

mr2peak · June 12th, 2014, 03:36 PM

So, I want an adjustable rear set, but there's absolutely no way I'm going to pay for a woodcraft set, that's just way too much money for me to spend on one part. I've been cruising ebay, and there are some generic rear sets that don't look too hideous (as long as I stay with black or silver) but they are all for the new gen bikes. I've heard that some of the rear sets are compatible, what stops them from being able to swap over?

Disclaimer: Yes it's Ebay. Yes it's a part from Asia. And if I drop the bike, I won't be super pissed at myself because it's an inexpensive part...

alex.s · June 12th, 2014, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mr2peak

what stops them from being able to swap over?

i would assume differences in design.

you are asking too vague of a question. maybe link to a specific piece that you are concerned about not fitting.

mr2peak · June 13th, 2014, 12:18 AM

Are the mounting holes the same distance away? Is the leverage ratio the same for the foot controls? Is there a difference relative from the mounting holes to the foot pegs?

What I'm wondering is, can I use an aftermarket Newgen rear set on a Pregen? If yes, what are the differences?

The consensus seems to be yes, it fits, from a few searches I've done. However, there's a difference in the mounting location for the rear master brake cylinder. Is this the only difference apart from styling?

Singh2jz · June 13th, 2014, 09:19 PM

Have you looked at A&L Rearsets? They're for the newgen 250 but fit on the pregen as well.

mr2peak · June 13th, 2014, 09:29 PM

I have. But for $133.00 shipped to my door I'm getting knockoff fully adjustable rear sets instead. According to the 'net, they are decent. Maybe a few issues, but for the price I can deal with it.

Singh2jz · June 14th, 2014, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mr2peak

I have. But for $133.00 shipped to my door I'm getting knockoff fully adjustable rear sets instead. According to the 'net, they are decent. Maybe a few issues, but for the price I can deal with it.

Be sure to take pics and let us know how they do.

choneofakind · June 14th, 2014, 06:10 AM

They'll fit the mounting holes just fine. You may have to take the grinder to rearset to shave off any contact points on the frame. But not necessarily.

Go for it. Be sure to post up pics when you've got them installed.

mr2peak · June 14th, 2014, 08:01 AM

Will do. Shipping is going to take 2-6 weeks, so don't expect anything right away

redbike2 · July 7th, 2014, 06:09 PM

do you have a&l rear sets on a pregen?

i am thinking of it.

redbike2 · July 7th, 2014, 06:18 PM

also, i think i am going to switch to woodcraft clip ons for 2006 250 pregen

anyone have any complaints about these?

anyone have any specific issues about installing them?

also, any reason not to do this if i ride from boston to ny and back once a month?

why not talk about this again.

choneofakind · July 7th, 2014, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by redbike2

do you have a&l rear sets on a pregen?

Yes.

Sirref · July 7th, 2014, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbike2

do you have a&l rear sets on a pregen?

i am thinking of it.

I have the N250 yoshimura rearset adjusters on my pregen. It took a bit of belt sanding to fit which took about an hour but the end result was good and at a good price.

mr2peak · July 11th, 2014, 11:39 PM

Picked them up from my friends house today and got them on the bike in 2 hours. Yes, 2 hours because quite a few things didn't fit quite right. When I have some time I'll make a separate how-to thread, but right now is bar O'Clock

mr2peak · September 23rd, 2014, 09:43 PM

SO.

Long-term they are OK. Shift linkage was short, so I'm running GP shift because that's juuuust that much shorter so it works. Also, I had to cut the reverse-thread heim joint and thread that into the pre-gen shift lever because that part can't be unbolted one pre-gen… if you look at the bike you will see what I mean.

Lock-tite everything. A few bolts have come loose even after using the red stuff. I'm keeping an eye on it, and keeping an eye on it has paid off..

Worth it? YMMV. I like it and the $$ saved over running "proper" rear-sets has been spent elsewhere for more enjoyment.

choneofakind · September 24th, 2014, 02:57 AM

Try getting a female to female coupler with locknuts and a spare piece of threaded rod. That will get you the length you need on your shift rod

Or read through the faq.ninja250 wiki. I believe they suggest using a shift rod (and maybe shift lever as well) from an EX500 because they're longer and don't interfere with any parts at the angles required to be comfortable on rearsets.

mr2peak · September 24th, 2014, 05:56 PM

I really just need a longer piece of reverse-threaded rod and some copper bushing tube to safely increase the length. Works OK now, would be perfect if the lever was an inch lower.

JohnnyBravo · September 24th, 2014, 07:14 PM

Thanks... I may just have to go GP shift my ride

mr2peak · September 24th, 2014, 11:03 PM

It will take a bit of time to get used to the change. I wouldn't have done it given the choice, makes switching bikes a bit more difficult, less of a "hop on and ride" experience.

June 12th, 2014, 03:36 PM	#1
mr2peak ninjette.org member Name: james Location: SF Join Date: Mar 2014 Motorcycle(s): Hyper 821 Posts: 161	Rearset Compatibility So, I want an adjustable rear set, but there's absolutely no way I'm going to pay for a woodcraft set, that's just way too much money for me to spend on one part. I've been cruising ebay, and there are some generic rear sets that don't look too hideous (as long as I stay with black or silver) but they are all for the new gen bikes. I've heard that some of the rear sets are compatible, what stops them from being able to swap over? Disclaimer: Yes it's Ebay. Yes it's a part from Asia. And if I drop the bike, I won't be super pissed at myself because it's an inexpensive part...

June 13th, 2014, 09:19 PM	#4
Singh2jz ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Inderveer Location: San Jose Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '07 ex250-F/J Posts: A lot.	Have you looked at A&L Rearsets? They're for the newgen 250 but fit on the pregen as well. __________________________________________________ The Bike \| The Truck

July 7th, 2014, 06:18 PM	#10
redbike2 ninjette.org member Name: Jonathan Location: Boston Join Date: Mar 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Kawasaki Ninja 250 Posts: 48	woodcraft clip ons revisited also, i think i am going to switch to woodcraft clip ons for 2006 250 pregen anyone have any complaints about these? anyone have any specific issues about installing them? also, any reason not to do this if i ride from boston to ny and back once a month? why not talk about this again. Last futzed with by redbike2; July 7th, 2014 at 06:21 PM. Reason: omitted word

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June 13th, 2014, 12:18 AM	#3
mr2peak ninjette.org member Name: james Location: SF Join Date: Mar 2014 Motorcycle(s): Hyper 821 Posts: 161	Are the mounting holes the same distance away? Is the leverage ratio the same for the foot controls? Is there a difference relative from the mounting holes to the foot pegs? What I'm wondering is, can I use an aftermarket Newgen rear set on a Pregen? If yes, what are the differences? The consensus seems to be yes, it fits, from a few searches I've done. However, there's a difference in the mounting location for the rear master brake cylinder. Is this the only difference apart from styling?

June 13th, 2014, 09:29 PM	#5
mr2peak ninjette.org member Name: james Location: SF Join Date: Mar 2014 Motorcycle(s): Hyper 821 Posts: 161	I have. But for $133.00 shipped to my door I'm getting knockoff fully adjustable rear sets instead. According to the 'net, they are decent. Maybe a few issues, but for the price I can deal with it.

June 14th, 2014, 06:10 AM	#7
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	They'll fit the mounting holes just fine. You may have to take the grinder to rearset to shave off any contact points on the frame. But not necessarily. Go for it. Be sure to post up pics when you've got them installed.

June 14th, 2014, 08:01 AM	#8
mr2peak ninjette.org member Name: james Location: SF Join Date: Mar 2014 Motorcycle(s): Hyper 821 Posts: 161	Will do. Shipping is going to take 2-6 weeks, so don't expect anything right away

July 7th, 2014, 06:09 PM	#9
redbike2 ninjette.org member Name: Jonathan Location: Boston Join Date: Mar 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Kawasaki Ninja 250 Posts: 48	do you have a&l rear sets on a pregen? i am thinking of it.

July 11th, 2014, 11:39 PM	#13
mr2peak ninjette.org member Name: james Location: SF Join Date: Mar 2014 Motorcycle(s): Hyper 821 Posts: 161	Picked them up from my friends house today and got them on the bike in 2 hours. Yes, 2 hours because quite a few things didn't fit quite right. When I have some time I'll make a separate how-to thread, but right now is bar O'Clock

September 23rd, 2014, 09:43 PM	#14
mr2peak ninjette.org member Name: james Location: SF Join Date: Mar 2014 Motorcycle(s): Hyper 821 Posts: 161	SO. Long-term they are OK. Shift linkage was short, so I'm running GP shift because that's juuuust that much shorter so it works. Also, I had to cut the reverse-thread heim joint and thread that into the pre-gen shift lever because that part can't be unbolted one pre-gen… if you look at the bike you will see what I mean. Lock-tite everything. A few bolts have come loose even after using the red stuff. I'm keeping an eye on it, and keeping an eye on it has paid off.. Worth it? YMMV. I like it and the $$ saved over running "proper" rear-sets has been spent elsewhere for more enjoyment.

September 24th, 2014, 02:57 AM	#15
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Try getting a female to female coupler with locknuts and a spare piece of threaded rod. That will get you the length you need on your shift rod Or read through the faq.ninja250 wiki. I believe they suggest using a shift rod (and maybe shift lever as well) from an EX500 because they're longer and don't interfere with any parts at the angles required to be comfortable on rearsets.

September 24th, 2014, 05:56 PM	#16
mr2peak ninjette.org member Name: james Location: SF Join Date: Mar 2014 Motorcycle(s): Hyper 821 Posts: 161	I really just need a longer piece of reverse-threaded rod and some copper bushing tube to safely increase the length. Works OK now, would be perfect if the lever was an inch lower.

September 24th, 2014, 07:14 PM	#17
JohnnyBravo Certifiable nontundrum Name: Harper Location: NC Milkshake stand Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 SE NINJA 300 Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '13, Sep '16	Thanks... I may just have to go GP shift my ride

September 24th, 2014, 11:03 PM	#18
mr2peak ninjette.org member Name: james Location: SF Join Date: Mar 2014 Motorcycle(s): Hyper 821 Posts: 161	It will take a bit of time to get used to the change. I wouldn't have done it given the choice, makes switching bikes a bit more difficult, less of a "hop on and ride" experience.