Oh my dear Lord

[LittleRedNinjette]

^^ Sweet!

[JohnnyBravo]

Originally Posted by Knolly

From the topic I was expecting

Knight hoodie... That's tight!!!

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by alex.s

there's plenty of times when i'll ride a wopping mile down the street to the bank or quick stop or whatever and will squid it up. if i happened to have this sweater i'd probably throw it on. but i probably wouldn't bother paying for it.

I read that most vehicle accidents happen within five miles of home. So I moved. Can't believe I lived in such a dangerous place all that time and only heard about it recently.

[alex.s]

womp womp

[Panda]

Originally Posted by ChaoSS

You are missing the point, though. The point isn't that you can't get hurt at 25-35 mph. It's just that the injuries are a lot less severe, so the decision to not wear all the gear is much more reasonable.

The potential for injury on a motorcycle is greater than on a bicycle, in part due to the larger mass of the motorcycle. A 400lb motorcycle has ~20x more kinetic energy than a 25lb bike at 35mph. A motorcycle will slide longer, press on a limb or body part trapped beneath it etc. Also as a point of reference 35 mph is the velocity you'd achieve by jumping out of a 4th floor window.

I'd definitely agree the potential for injury is less severe at 35mph but it's not necessarily trivial either.

[ChaoSS]

Originally Posted by Panda

The potential for injury on a motorcycle is greater than on a bicycle, in part due to the larger mass of the motorcycle. A 400lb motorcycle has ~20x more kinetic energy than a 25lb bike at 35mph. A motorcycle will slide longer, press on a limb or body part trapped beneath it etc. Also as a point of reference 35 mph is the velocity you'd achieve by jumping out of a 4th floor window.

I'd definitely agree the potential for injury is less severe at 35mph but it's not necessarily trivial either.

Keep in mind that a 35 mph slide is not the same as colliding with a concrete wall at 35 mph.

[LittleRedNinjette]

Still gonna hurt...

[choneofakind]

Originally Posted by Panda

The potential for injury on a motorcycle is greater than on a bicycle, in part due to the larger mass of the motorcycle

Here's a pic off my speedo from my ride this afternoon. Yes, that's 58.1 mph.

Pretty sure that's going to hurt no matter what kind of vehicle you fall off of or how much kinetic energy that vehicle has. If I'd wrecked as I came down that hill, I'd be looking at skin grafts and head trauma.

I get the point you're making about getting body parts trapped under a motorcycle because of the weight vs a bicycle which can be easily thrown/kicked off, but I'm not really sure how the vehicle's kinetic energy plays into that. In a slide, think the protective gear being worn has more impact on the amount of injury than the kinetic energy of the vehicle. I'll take a 30 mph slide in my race gear over a 30 mph slide in my bicycling spandex any day!

Whatever way you look at it, sliding across pavement is going to hurt. The idea is to not do that.

[Daks]

As someone who was hit on my bike 2 blocks from my house, jacket, boots, gloves, helmet every time.

It's never "just" a trip to the store.

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Here's a pic off my speedo from my ride this afternoon. Yes, that's 58.1 mph. (stroke stroke stroke)
in my bicycling spandex

Not too bright.
What was the rating on your brain bucket?

[choneofakind]

Originally Posted by allanoue

Not too bright.
What was the rating on your brain bucket?

It was perfectly safe, there was no traffic and since I was moving above the speed limit, I was able to safely ride in the lane without worry of being sideswiped.

It's CE certified to EN 1078 standard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EN_1078


Please leave the rude stroking comment out of your posts when quoting me. Not sure if that's your way of insulting me, or if I just don't understand your sense of humor, but I'd rather it not be there in the first place.

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

It was perfectly safe, there was no traffic and since I was moving above the speed limit, I was able to safely ride in the lane without worry of being sideswiped.

It's CE certified to EN 1078 standard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EN_1078


Please leave the rude stroking comment out of your posts when quoting me. Not sure if that's your way of insulting me, or if I just don't understand your sense of humor, but I'd rather it not be there in the first place.

No such thing as perfectly safe.

[choneofakind]

Originally Posted by allanoue

No such thing as perfectly safe.

Thank you.

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Thank you.

You are welcome

I was not insulting you just the post. It was bragging about being unsafe.

[choneofakind]

It wasn't bragging about being unsafe, it was showing an exception to the statement that panda made. Sure, there's more weight to a motorcycle and it's capable of very high speeds and can cause a lot of harm. But a bicycle (that was the comparison made) is also capable of high speeds, and most bicyclists don't go around in 1-piece leather suits, making injury just as likely. While 58 mph on a bike isn't typical, it still showed the point that there was an exception to panda's rule. I think I'd get more hurt falling off a bike at 58 in a helmet and spandex than I would falling off a motorcycle at 58 in my protective gear (track riders are great examples of this). I also wanted to suggest that I was unsure of how the vehicle's kinetic energy had anything to do with that.

That's all.

FWIW, I've been put in the hospital for a mountain bike accident at <20 mph on a trail. No traffic, no excessive speed, just a plain old crash. It happens. Even if you take my extreme example of 58 mph out of the picture, I'm not sure I'd make the blanket statement that motorcycles have a higher likelyhood to cause harm than bicycles.

[249cc]

That picture of your speedometer reminds me of when I used to ride on weekends. I easily pulled 45mphs on down hills. Ever since I took up motorcycle riding and started wearing full gear, I cringe at the thought of having gone down back then wearing less material than is in my glove now. Lycra sucks as protection.

And this is why I'll never ride a bicycle again.

[JeffM]

I got a chuckle from Motorcyclegear's comment on the hoodie:

Well, I wouldn’t feel right telling you that this armored jacket is going to do a lot for you in case you hit the pavement at anything more than walking speed. Plain cotton material is stretchy and soft and will shred within inches of a sliding impact with the pavement. The armor might do some good for a split second, but if the shell comes apart immediately there won’t be anything to hold that armor in the places it’s supposed to be as you tumble or slide. That being said… I’ll give you some ideas on a few good uses of this hoody….. of course wearing it casually will give you a lot of use and you’ll look really cool. And if you get in a scuffle you’ll be admiringly resilient when you hit the sidewalk.