Tail light

Xer0- · September 11th, 2012, 10:48 AM

Does anyone know of any company that makes a led tail/turn unit for pregens?

Or am I going to have to make my own?

choneofakind · September 11th, 2012, 12:41 PM

I'm unaware of any companies who make an LED tail light for the pregen. If you find anything, let me know.

FrugalNinja250 · September 11th, 2012, 03:30 PM

I just put LED bulbs in my existing tail light housings, dual brightness for the center and single brightness for the two outers wired as extra brake lights.

iplante · September 13th, 2012, 08:47 AM

Frugal, is it noticeably brighter?

FrugalNinja250 · September 13th, 2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by iplante

Frugal, is it noticeably brighter?

The center bulb is dual filament in stock configuration, with about a 25/75% split in brightness. The new LED bulb is about 90% as bright on high as the incandescent bulb was, and it has more of a 40/60% split in brightness. However, the side bulbs are about the same brightness as the incandescent on high, and since the side LEDs are on/off instead of dim/bright the effect of brake lights is much more apparent.

choneofakind · September 13th, 2012, 10:42 AM

LED's are great for the pods, like Frugal said.

If you're looking for a bright center brake light, use a 2357 bulb. Same running filament. Bright brake filament.

jschatte · September 13th, 2012, 08:07 PM

I am running these replacements in all three sockets. They are expensive bulbs, but they illuminate just as well as the incandecents and use about a fifth of the power.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/230817098823?...84.m1497.l2649

rabies · September 14th, 2012, 08:48 AM

any led light needs the resister wired in though right?
im putting an R1 tail and light on my bike so i bought resisters and the led taillight

choneofakind · September 14th, 2012, 12:28 PM

It only needs resistors if it's flashing, like a turn signal, and uses a load-based flasher.

rabies · September 14th, 2012, 08:30 PM

i hav yet to i stall an r1 integrated tailight on thebike. im sure wire the resisters with the turn signal power wires yes?

choneofakind · September 14th, 2012, 10:38 PM

Sure, you can wire resistors in line with the turn signals.

The other option is to buy an electronic flasher that doesn't depend on load for flash rate.

kazman1 · February 4th, 2013, 09:59 AM

I wired in two 1157 lamp sockets in the outside lenses & installed three - 13 section white LED 1157 lamps.

All three lenses act as both running lights and brake lights.

OBTW... while I was at it I removed the red plastic piece in the bottom and siliconed a clear piece of plexi in, which lights the license plate on the homemade fender eliminator.

Did I mention I paid $400.00 for this bike

choneofakind · February 4th, 2013, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kazman1

Did I mention I paid $400.00 for this bike

iplante · February 4th, 2013, 11:06 AM

@kazman1, did you just cut your existing fender and leave the tabs for the turn signals or.. ?

kazman1 · February 4th, 2013, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by iplante

@kazman1, did you just cut your existing fender and leave the tabs for the turn signals or.. ?

Yup, old ZRX mod.
I'll soon transplant a pair of ZRX 3-wire front signals, using the wire from the now defunct license plate light to have front running lights. (red w/blue stripe I believe)

I believe in DOT spec lighting, there's a reason it's required...

IT WORKS.

iplante · February 4th, 2013, 12:30 PM

I'm planning on doing my own DIY fender elimination this summer. I plan on leaving the tabs for the turn signals - I don't want to integrate them in the tail light. I do think that the pregen's turn signals are ugly as ****, so I may put new gen rear turn signals instead.

For the front, I got some flush mount signals that I will install and try to wire as DRLs using http://www.tobefast.com/customled-ma...er-pr-479.html

Of course, none of that may happen if I don't have any $

choneofakind · February 4th, 2013, 05:41 PM

^^ DRL's rock. If anything, make sure you do that.

CZroe · February 4th, 2013, 08:11 PM

I got some dual 1157 LEDs that I plan to wire as running lights, brake lights, and turn signals as soon as I can figure out how to to kill the running/brake function while the signal flashes.

choneofakind · February 4th, 2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CZroe

I got some dual 1157 LEDs that I plan to wire as running lights, brake lights, and turn signals as soon as I can figure out how to to kill the running/brake function while the signal flashes.

There was a thread a while back about using a brake controller like you'd use on a trailer.

CZroe · February 4th, 2013, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by choneofakind

There was a thread a while back about using a brake controller like you'd use on a trailer.

Yep, and it comes really close but it still needs another relay or two to work exactly right.

kazman1 · February 5th, 2013, 04:52 AM

Forgot to mention, move the turn signal stalk spacers to the inside of the fender.

Tightens up the rear

September 11th, 2012, 10:48 AM	#1
Xer0- ninjette.org member Name: Dan Location: Pittsburgh Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 06 250 rat, 20 400 krt Posts: 55	Tail light Does anyone know of any company that makes a led tail/turn unit for pregens? Or am I going to have to make my own?

September 14th, 2012, 08:48 AM	#8
rabies time is running out.... Name: jesse Location: the land of corn Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): pregen ninjari Posts: 412 Blog Entries: 3	any led light needs the resister wired in though right? im putting an R1 tail and light on my bike so i bought resisters and the led taillight __________________________________________________ The King

September 14th, 2012, 08:30 PM	#10
rabies time is running out.... Name: jesse Location: the land of corn Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): pregen ninjari Posts: 412 Blog Entries: 3	i hav yet to i stall an r1 integrated tailight on thebike. im sure wire the resisters with the turn signal power wires yes? __________________________________________________ The King

February 4th, 2013, 09:59 AM	#12
kazman1 King of Kazmania Name: Nunya Location: Kazmania Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): '02 ZRX 1200 R x2 - '03 EX250F Posts: 7	I wired in two 1157 lamp sockets in the outside lenses & installed three - 13 section white LED 1157 lamps. All three lenses act as both running lights and brake lights. OBTW... while I was at it I removed the red plastic piece in the bottom and siliconed a clear piece of plexi in, which lights the license plate on the homemade fender eliminator. Did I mention I paid $400.00 for this bike __________________________________________________ SAY WHAT YOU MEAN, DO WHAT YOU SAY

February 4th, 2013, 11:06 AM	#14
iplante I ride like a granny Name: Isabelle Location: Minneapolis Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2003 Ninja 250R - EX250F Posts: 521 Blog Entries: 1	@kazman1, did you just cut your existing fender and leave the tabs for the turn signals or.. ? __________________________________________________ WANTED for 88-07 Ninja 250: Corbin Gunfighter & Lady seat

September 11th, 2012, 12:41 PM	#2
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	I'm unaware of any companies who make an LED tail light for the pregen. If you find anything, let me know.

September 11th, 2012, 03:30 PM	#3
FrugalNinja250 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Frugal Location: Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): Several Posts: A lot.	I just put LED bulbs in my existing tail light housings, dual brightness for the center and single brightness for the two outers wired as extra brake lights.

September 13th, 2012, 08:47 AM	#4
iplante I ride like a granny Name: Isabelle Location: Minneapolis Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2003 Ninja 250R - EX250F Posts: 521 Blog Entries: 1	Frugal, is it noticeably brighter?

September 13th, 2012, 10:42 AM	#6
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	LED's are great for the pods, like Frugal said. If you're looking for a bright center brake light, use a 2357 bulb. Same running filament. Bright brake filament.

September 13th, 2012, 08:07 PM	#7
jschatte ninjette.org member Name: Josh Location: Regina, Saskatchewan Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): 1988 Ninja 250 Posts: 52	I am running these replacements in all three sockets. They are expensive bulbs, but they illuminate just as well as the incandecents and use about a fifth of the power. http://www.ebay.ca/itm/230817098823?...84.m1497.l2649

September 14th, 2012, 12:28 PM	#9
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	It only needs resistors if it's flashing, like a turn signal, and uses a load-based flasher.

September 14th, 2012, 10:38 PM	#11
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Sure, you can wire resistors in line with the turn signals. The other option is to buy an electronic flasher that doesn't depend on load for flash rate.

February 4th, 2013, 12:30 PM	#16
iplante I ride like a granny Name: Isabelle Location: Minneapolis Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2003 Ninja 250R - EX250F Posts: 521 Blog Entries: 1	I'm planning on doing my own DIY fender elimination this summer. I plan on leaving the tabs for the turn signals - I don't want to integrate them in the tail light. I do think that the pregen's turn signals are ugly as ****, so I may put new gen rear turn signals instead. For the front, I got some flush mount signals that I will install and try to wire as DRLs using http://www.tobefast.com/customled-ma...er-pr-479.html Of course, none of that may happen if I don't have any $ __________________________________________________ WANTED for 88-07 Ninja 250: Corbin Gunfighter & Lady seat

February 4th, 2013, 05:41 PM	#17
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	^^ DRL's rock. If anything, make sure you do that.

February 4th, 2013, 08:11 PM	#18
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	I got some dual 1157 LEDs that I plan to wire as running lights, brake lights, and turn signals as soon as I can figure out how to to kill the running/brake function while the signal flashes.

February 5th, 2013, 04:52 AM	#21
kazman1 King of Kazmania Name: Nunya Location: Kazmania Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): '02 ZRX 1200 R x2 - '03 EX250F Posts: 7	Forgot to mention, move the turn signal stalk spacers to the inside of the fender. Tightens up the rear __________________________________________________ SAY WHAT YOU MEAN, DO WHAT YOU SAY

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