Why you should change your coolant before 3 years

tubarney · January 24th, 2013, 05:14 PM

bike has 10 000km on it, 6000 miles. Kept undercover, and rarely ridden in rain. It is 2 years old. This is kawasaki factory coolant.

alex.s · January 24th, 2013, 05:16 PM

white crap in the coolant means oil contamination, no? possible seal failure on the water pump or head gasket??? i suppose it could just be crap in the coolant. flush it all out and check again after 100 miles of riding... maybe check your oil too

tubarney · January 24th, 2013, 06:57 PM

its not oil. Coolant develops white crap in it over time. I have my cylinder head off atm and it is one of the cleanest i've seen. This build up of white crap was in the bottom of the reserve tank.

tubarney · January 24th, 2013, 07:00 PM

the green oil is motul v300. The best oil I've used, so clean.

lgk · January 24th, 2013, 07:14 PM

i think that happens when coolant boils.

might want to replace your radiator cap as well.

rawbert625 · January 24th, 2013, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tubarney

the green oil is motul v300. The best oil I've used, so clean.

for a minute there I thought that was coolant all over!

DaBlue1 · January 24th, 2013, 08:49 PM

Coolant in the reservoir is not completely air tight and is exposed to air. In a pressurized system it is not. The ethylene glycol breaks down over time and becomes oxidized. The greenish-gray crude is the result. Add some heat and it drys fast.

I changed my coolant @ 3 years 10 months and under 24k miles. The coolant in my reservoir didn't look like that because I switched it out in the summer of 2011. Something the manual does not mention doing.

tubarney · January 24th, 2013, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBlue1

Coolant in the reservoir is not completely air tight and is exposed to air. In a pressurized system it is not. The ethylene glycol breaks down over time and becomes oxidized. The greenish-gray crude is the result. Add some heat and it drys fast.

I changed my coolant @ 3 years 10 months and under 24k miles. The coolant in my reservoir didn't look like that because I switched it out in the summer of 2011. Something the manual does not mention doing.

Its summer over here to. 95F yesterday. The coolant looked good until the last little bit. You said add heat and it dries fast, this is what it looks like after a day. And your right about the oxidation, this is what happens to coolant over time. This is the cause.

Graugaard · January 25th, 2013, 04:56 AM

just changed mine too... 4½ year old , yup about time but thought old owner had done it since it was full serviced but nope... also white crap at the bottom of the reserve tank...

Madman44 · January 25th, 2013, 11:29 PM

I'll definitely be changing my coolant asap. I too still have the stock fluid in her:/

tubarney · January 26th, 2013, 12:11 AM

It's so cheap i'll be doing it every year from now on. Not to mention easy, two bolts and a hose.

smokinsingle · January 27th, 2013, 07:09 PM

Use Engine Ice. Amazing stuff.

mgentz · January 29th, 2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by smokinsingle

Use Engine Ice. Amazing stuff.

I use LP high performance coolant. Works AWESOME and I can leave it in over winter!

I get the orange stuff....

choneofakind · January 29th, 2013, 05:10 PM

I use Engine Ice also. I don't have to drain it for winter. Best part? It's alright to use at Mid-Ohio

mgentz · January 29th, 2013, 05:19 PM

the orange stuff is propylene glyclol based and biodegradeable. If I go to the track I run the blue. I just don't like the blue due to the lack of freeze protection. Otherwise, I would leave it in all year.

Orange:

http://www.liquidperformance.com/mot...nt-antifreeze/

Blue:

http://www.liquidperformance.com/mot...acing-coolant/

alex.s · January 29th, 2013, 05:39 PM

has anyone tried that super expensive waterless coolant?

smokinsingle · January 29th, 2013, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tubarney

the green oil is motul v300. The best oil I've used, so clean.

What happened to your vaccum line on the carb?!

tubarney · January 30th, 2013, 04:26 AM

i chopped it with scissors. It was being a pain in the a**. So i taught the bastard a lesson. Don't need it anymore as i'm getting CR carbs.

I'm going to use engine ice too, the blue stuff. Just waiting for my head to be ported.

eksine · April 28th, 2013, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tubarney

It's so cheap i'll be doing it every year from now on. Not to mention easy, two bolts and a hose.

its just 2 bolt, the rad cap, the reservoir tank. there is no hose involved. if your draining via the lower hose than you wouldn't even need to use the bolts at all actually.

eksine · April 28th, 2013, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by alex.s

has anyone tried that super expensive waterless coolant?

why has nobody tried it??! maybe you or me need to be the first

contact148 · April 28th, 2013, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by eksine

why has nobody tried it??! maybe you or me need to be the first

probably cause were all cheap-asses and spend our $ on better things!

Joshorilla · April 28th, 2013, 06:17 AM

Yeah, at £2.50 a litre of ethyl glycol coolant, and 37p a litre of reverse osmosis de-ionised water you can't go wrong.

DaBlue1 · April 28th, 2013, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by eksine

...why has nobody tried it??!

The green stuff is cheap. I can use it in the bike and still have some left over to top off both cars.

Besides that the color matches my Hi Viz vest and tastes great.

JohnnyBravo · April 28th, 2013, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DaBlue1

The green stuff is cheap.
Besides that the color matches my Hi Viz vest and tastes great.

So that's why they put the bittering agent in the fancy cool aid at the parts store

eksine · April 28th, 2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by contact148

probably cause were all cheap-asses and spend our $ on better things!

damn I know. me too, prestone it is then. at least my money is going to stuff i can keep except those strippers

January 24th, 2013, 05:14 PM	#1
tubarney ninjette.org sage Name: Brad Location: Sydney Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r 2010 SE Posts: 573	Why you should change your coolant before 3 years bike has 10 000km on it, 6000 miles. Kept undercover, and rarely ridden in rain. It is 2 years old. This is kawasaki factory coolant.

January 24th, 2013, 05:16 PM	#2
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	white crap in the coolant means oil contamination, no? possible seal failure on the water pump or head gasket??? i suppose it could just be crap in the coolant. flush it all out and check again after 100 miles of riding... maybe check your oil too __________________________________________________

January 24th, 2013, 07:14 PM	#5
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January 24th, 2013, 08:49 PM	#7
DaBlue1 Long Time Rider Name: Blue Location: Charlotte, NC Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	Coolant in the reservoir is not completely air tight and is exposed to air. In a pressurized system it is not. The ethylene glycol breaks down over time and becomes oxidized. The greenish-gray crude is the result. Add some heat and it drys fast. I changed my coolant @ 3 years 10 months and under 24k miles. The coolant in my reservoir didn't look like that because I switched it out in the summer of 2011. Something the manual does not mention doing.
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January 27th, 2013, 07:09 PM	#12
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January 24th, 2013, 06:57 PM	#3
tubarney ninjette.org sage Name: Brad Location: Sydney Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r 2010 SE Posts: 573	its not oil. Coolant develops white crap in it over time. I have my cylinder head off atm and it is one of the cleanest i've seen. This build up of white crap was in the bottom of the reserve tank.

January 24th, 2013, 07:00 PM	#4
tubarney ninjette.org sage Name: Brad Location: Sydney Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r 2010 SE Posts: 573	the green oil is motul v300. The best oil I've used, so clean.

January 25th, 2013, 04:56 AM	#9
Graugaard ninjette.org member Name: Elias Location: Denmark Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r Posts: 152	just changed mine too... 4½ year old , yup about time but thought old owner had done it since it was full serviced but nope... also white crap at the bottom of the reserve tank...

January 25th, 2013, 11:29 PM	#10
Madman44 ninjette.org guru Name: Martin Location: California Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 250r Posts: 291	I'll definitely be changing my coolant asap. I too still have the stock fluid in her:/

January 26th, 2013, 12:11 AM	#11
tubarney ninjette.org sage Name: Brad Location: Sydney Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r 2010 SE Posts: 573	It's so cheap i'll be doing it every year from now on. Not to mention easy, two bolts and a hose.

January 29th, 2013, 05:10 PM	#14
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	I use Engine Ice also. I don't have to drain it for winter. Best part? It's alright to use at Mid-Ohio

January 29th, 2013, 05:19 PM	#15
mgentz Board Member Name: ... Location: WI Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 250R (street), 250R (dirt) Posts: A lot.	the orange stuff is propylene glyclol based and biodegradeable. If I go to the track I run the blue. I just don't like the blue due to the lack of freeze protection. Otherwise, I would leave it in all year. Orange: http://www.liquidperformance.com/mot...nt-antifreeze/ Blue: http://www.liquidperformance.com/mot...acing-coolant/

January 29th, 2013, 05:39 PM	#16
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	has anyone tried that super expensive waterless coolant? __________________________________________________

January 30th, 2013, 04:26 AM	#18
tubarney ninjette.org sage Name: Brad Location: Sydney Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r 2010 SE Posts: 573	i chopped it with scissors. It was being a pain in the a**. So i taught the bastard a lesson. Don't need it anymore as i'm getting CR carbs. I'm going to use engine ice too, the blue stuff. Just waiting for my head to be ported.

April 28th, 2013, 06:17 AM	#22
Joshorilla Bass Master General Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 24	Yeah, at £2.50 a litre of ethyl glycol coolant, and 37p a litre of reverse osmosis de-ionised water you can't go wrong.

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