how to remove rear seat without key?

cookiebug79 · July 14th, 2014, 08:13 PM

I got a 2008 bike for super cheap, but no key was included. It's going to be track only. I'm a day away from taking a sledge hammer to the rear seat to get it apart. Any advice before I get extreme?

Alex · July 14th, 2014, 08:17 PM

I looked for similar threads here, and didn't come up with anything helpful. This was the closest, but it doesn't provide a great option...

https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=126796

Sirref · July 14th, 2014, 08:26 PM

super useful skill to have

cbinker · July 14th, 2014, 09:49 PM

Drill.

xorbe · July 14th, 2014, 09:55 PM

Is the 2008 locking mechanism anything like the 2007? I'm pretty sure I can use a coat hanger, reach up from the rear tire area and hook the spring-loaded bar and pull it back, popping the rear seat. But it's probably all different, looking at google images.

Sirref · July 14th, 2014, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xorbe

Is the 2008 locking mechanism anything like the 2007? I'm pretty sure I can use a coat hanger, reach up from the rear tire area and hook the spring-loaded bar and pull it back, popping the rear seat. But it's probably all different, looking at google images.

seeing as they switched to separate seats w/the '08 I think it's more like the 300 where you wouldn't be able to do that

drilling or picking the lock seem to be the best options as of now

cookiebug79 · July 14th, 2014, 10:43 PM

Yeah, it's unfortunately nothing like the 2007

Drilling the lock... interesting... I feel like the locking mechanism has to turn to move something under the seat to allow it to move. If I drill that out, don't I just screw myself more? I guess I can't get screwed more than I am...

There's 2 4mm screws under the seat that I can't get an allen wrench in. I was considering just drilling a hole in the seat to get at the screws but I wasn't sure that would even do any good. I was hoping something on these fairings or seat would be salvageable but at this point I'm kinda over it...

cookiebug79 · July 14th, 2014, 10:44 PM

But thank you all for your help so far. Keep it coming!

tfkrocks · July 15th, 2014, 12:31 AM

If your rear seat is nice and loose like mine was, you can take an allen key or any other similarly sturdy hook-shaped object and get under the seat to manually pull on the cable to unhook the seat. The cable is on the left side of the seat relative to the riding position. I had to do that when something in the locking mechanism broke and the key could no longer pull the cable enough to unlock the seat.

Baron · July 15th, 2014, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirref

super useful skill to have

cookiebug79 · July 15th, 2014, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfkrocks

If your rear seat is nice and loose like mine was, you can take an allen key or any other similarly sturdy hook-shaped object and get under the seat to manually pull on the cable to unhook the seat. The cable is on the left side of the seat relative to the riding position. I had to do that when something in the locking mechanism broke and the key could no longer pull the cable enough to unlock the seat.

Hmmm... does anyone have a picture of what the bike looks like under the seat that they could post? Thank you!

CC Cowboy · July 15th, 2014, 06:20 AM

I like the sledgehammer idea.

Sirref · July 15th, 2014, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron

believe it or not I used one of those kits to get into my house instead of a key for a solid 2-3 months

edit: 4000posts

Baron · July 15th, 2014, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirref

believe it or not I used one of those kits to get into my house instead of a key for a solid 2-3 months

edit: 4000posts

4000!!!! \m/

cookiebug79 · July 15th, 2014, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

I like the sledgehammer idea.

LOLZ I wanna dress up like Miley Cyrus and sing Wrecking Ball. I'll video tape the whole thing.

cookiebug79 · July 15th, 2014, 08:53 AM

But seriously, a pic or diagram of what it looks like under the seat would be really helpful. 'Cause I don't wanna look up microfiche.

tfkrocks · July 15th, 2014, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cookiebug79

Hmmm... does anyone have a picture of what the bike looks like under the seat that they could post? Thank you!

I no longer have a 250 so I can't help there unfortunately but I can try my hand at a diagram from memory

tfkrocks · July 15th, 2014, 09:14 AM

Oh well duh. I forgot I had made a thread before on this. I am smart.

https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?p=740088

cookiebug79 · July 15th, 2014, 09:23 AM

Oh awesome! Thank you! I'll try that tonight!

Panda · July 15th, 2014, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xorbe

Is the 2008 locking mechanism anything like the 2007? I'm pretty sure I can use a coat hanger, reach up from the rear tire area and hook the spring-loaded bar and pull it back, popping the rear seat. But it's probably all different, looking at google images.

A variation of this should work. If you can put tension on the cable that leads to the lock it'll pop it. If you had a cowl you can pop it with your finger.

With a seat it'll be more difficult but I think you could do it with a coat hanger.

cookiebug79 · July 15th, 2014, 08:10 PM

The allen key totally worked! Thank you!

tfkrocks · July 16th, 2014, 03:07 AM

July 14th, 2014, 08:13 PM	#1
cookiebug79 n00b with the b00bs Name: Jen Location: Southern California Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 EX250, 2008 EX250, 2001 ZR-7S, 2010 ZX-6R Posts: 470	how to remove rear seat without key? I got a 2008 bike for super cheap, but no key was included. It's going to be track only. I'm a day away from taking a sledge hammer to the rear seat to get it apart. Any advice before I get extreme?

July 14th, 2014, 08:17 PM	#2
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July 14th, 2014, 09:49 PM	#4
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July 15th, 2014, 06:20 AM	#12
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	I like the sledgehammer idea. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

July 15th, 2014, 08:10 PM	#21
cookiebug79 n00b with the b00bs Name: Jen Location: Southern California Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 EX250, 2008 EX250, 2001 ZR-7S, 2010 ZX-6R Posts: 470	The allen key totally worked! Thank you!
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July 14th, 2014, 08:26 PM	#3
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	super useful skill to have

July 14th, 2014, 09:55 PM	#5
xorbe ninjette.org guru Name: xorbe Location: Bay Area, CA Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): N650 (and others) Posts: 408	Is the 2008 locking mechanism anything like the 2007? I'm pretty sure I can use a coat hanger, reach up from the rear tire area and hook the spring-loaded bar and pull it back, popping the rear seat. But it's probably all different, looking at google images.

July 14th, 2014, 10:43 PM	#7
cookiebug79 n00b with the b00bs Name: Jen Location: Southern California Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 EX250, 2008 EX250, 2001 ZR-7S, 2010 ZX-6R Posts: 470	Yeah, it's unfortunately nothing like the 2007 Drilling the lock... interesting... I feel like the locking mechanism has to turn to move something under the seat to allow it to move. If I drill that out, don't I just screw myself more? I guess I can't get screwed more than I am... There's 2 4mm screws under the seat that I can't get an allen wrench in. I was considering just drilling a hole in the seat to get at the screws but I wasn't sure that would even do any good. I was hoping something on these fairings or seat would be salvageable but at this point I'm kinda over it...

July 14th, 2014, 10:44 PM	#8
cookiebug79 n00b with the b00bs Name: Jen Location: Southern California Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 EX250, 2008 EX250, 2001 ZR-7S, 2010 ZX-6R Posts: 470	But thank you all for your help so far. Keep it coming!

July 15th, 2014, 12:31 AM	#9
tfkrocks ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rebecca Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 w/ ABS, 2014 NC700X, 2008 Ninja 250 (sold), 2002 Ninja 250 (sold) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '18, Sep '13	If your rear seat is nice and loose like mine was, you can take an allen key or any other similarly sturdy hook-shaped object and get under the seat to manually pull on the cable to unhook the seat. The cable is on the left side of the seat relative to the riding position. I had to do that when something in the locking mechanism broke and the key could no longer pull the cable enough to unlock the seat.

July 15th, 2014, 08:53 AM	#16
cookiebug79 n00b with the b00bs Name: Jen Location: Southern California Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 EX250, 2008 EX250, 2001 ZR-7S, 2010 ZX-6R Posts: 470	But seriously, a pic or diagram of what it looks like under the seat would be really helpful. 'Cause I don't wanna look up microfiche.

July 15th, 2014, 09:14 AM	#18
tfkrocks ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rebecca Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 w/ ABS, 2014 NC700X, 2008 Ninja 250 (sold), 2002 Ninja 250 (sold) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '18, Sep '13	Oh well duh. I forgot I had made a thread before on this. I am smart. https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?p=740088

July 15th, 2014, 09:23 AM	#19
cookiebug79 n00b with the b00bs Name: Jen Location: Southern California Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 EX250, 2008 EX250, 2001 ZR-7S, 2010 ZX-6R Posts: 470	Oh awesome! Thank you! I'll try that tonight!

July 16th, 2014, 03:07 AM	#22
tfkrocks ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rebecca Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 w/ ABS, 2014 NC700X, 2008 Ninja 250 (sold), 2002 Ninja 250 (sold) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '18, Sep '13

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