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CC Cowboy · February 27th, 2011, 04:47 PM

Those Italian bikes run very very good.
Those old guys run very very good.

I thought Kawasaki's new bike was supposed to be killer? WTF!

How come Suzuki can only win in the States?

How come those foreign fellas have such kewl names?

How come those commentators talk funny? They must be from Brooklyn. They are great to listen to, even when they're wrong. They're brilliant!

sharky nrk · February 27th, 2011, 08:50 PM

Very happy WSBK is back on and looking forward to GP as well. Wanted to see Rea do better but with injuries in that field, he did pretty well. The RSV4 continues to show its got crushing power, but good to see the BMWs doing well. As for the 10R, give it a few races and then we can be good and let down if it doesn't do well. Top 10s in both races is far better than last year regardless.

Zombiphone · February 27th, 2011, 09:16 PM

Melandri came off motogp pretty nicely, it seems. I'd like to see him keep it up. I have a slight fondness for him based solely on the fact that he was teammates with Simoncelli (<3<3<3

) and getting to watch him actually be competitive was kind of cool. I'll be rooting for him and Johnny Rea this year.

That said, race 1 was boring as sin! Oh my god! Race 2 at least had a nice battle for second, but race 1 had all the thrills of the warm up lap

JeffM · February 28th, 2011, 07:21 AM

Missed race two. After watching race one, I went for a ride, I just could not sit on the couch any longer

.

I will be rooting for Max, Johnny Rea (Anyone that can jump of a burning bike at 130 mph in practice, re-crash at super pole and fix his own dislocated finger walking back to the pits, gets my support

)

Eugene Laverty is the seasons dark horse surprise.

actionace · February 28th, 2011, 11:48 AM

Going to be a great season as pretty much all the the factories except Kawasaki & Suzuki look very competitive. I also thought the new Kawi was supposed to be hot sh!t??? My buddy (who just started watching racing) is all stoked 'cause BMW are making a good showing but us ninja riders barely even see our guys during the race

Totally rooting for the tough guy Rea and see him as one who has potential to ride in MotoGP -if he can stop crashing. Laverty did a great job on his 1st ride & Marco will only start pushing harder.

Alex · February 28th, 2011, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffM

Eugene Laverty is the seasons dark horse surprise.

I'm not sure I'd classify him as a dark horse; he is on the team and bike that had the #1 plate only a year back. Fun rider to watch!

JeffM · February 28th, 2011, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

I'm not sure I'd classify him as a dark horse; he is on the team and bike that had the #1 plate only a year back. Fun rider to watch!

Not a bad start for the rookie.

Darling Ninja · February 28th, 2011, 06:37 PM

Good job Melandri. Very proud of him.

Rooting for Max Biaggi. I got a chance to interview him last year when he came to visit Dainese in Cali. Very nice guy off the track. On the track, he's a force to be reckoned with.

backinthesaddleagain · February 28th, 2011, 07:24 PM

IIRC Laverty was #2 in world ss last year with 1 dnf so he could have been the champ in the 600 class if not for that 1 dnf.

HKr1 · March 2nd, 2011, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

I thought Kawasaki's new bike was supposed to be killer? WTF!

I was kinda wondering the same thing? I know two of them were privateers, so they didnt really count.

And what the hell was up with the picture quality, it sucked

pugs24 · March 3rd, 2011, 08:27 PM

Pardon me for sounding like a total noob, but I've just started watching these races and something is confusing the hell out of me. What is a factory bike compared to a bike that isn't? From what I've been able to deduce, a factory bike receives full sponsorship from the manufacturer? Can someone clear this up for me?

And I agree, I wish they did the WSBK races in HD like the MotoGP ones.

Alex · March 3rd, 2011, 08:35 PM

Yup. A "factory" team is one that isn't buying bikes from the manufacturer, but instead is run directly by the company. The "factory" teams still have sponsors and advertising to support their costs. The bikes generally get the newest and trickest parts and development. Many of the companies also have satellite and/or customer teams. Those teams have to buy or lease the bikes from the factory. Typically their parts are just that little bit older, less trick, etc. It's rare for a non-factory team to be equally competitive with a factory squad.

There are fuzzy areas, with how much support the companies decide to provide to the customer teams. So this year Ducati officially pulled their factory team, and no longer has a directly supported team in the paddock. But, they provided the top-flight bikes from last year to Checa's Althea team this year. And a couple of mechanics and other team members from the factory squad last year are now on his team. And as the primary Ducati team in WSBK, even if it's not officially the "factory" team, they can likely count on reasonable support and development through the year if needed. But perhaps not to the level that Haga and Fabrizio were getting last year in an official factory team.

The bikes are a bit less trick in WSBK, with more power than the spec tires can put up with over the course of the race, so there's that much more chance that a pretty good bike can keep up with a marginally superior bike, even from factory to non-factory. In MotoGP, there is so much development and resources spent on the factory teams, that the satellite teams don't have a chance anywhere near the top, and a Top 5 finish would be fantastic.

pugs24 · March 3rd, 2011, 08:38 PM

Thanks for the response Alex. That's pretty interesting.

actionace · March 26th, 2011, 11:51 PM

Whoo Hoo! Tom Sykes just put a Kawasaki on the front row of the the Donington round of WSBK

CC Cowboy · March 27th, 2011, 08:06 AM

Motorcycle races on Speed from 3 to 7, Eastern time (no, not the far east).

gfloyd2002 · March 27th, 2011, 02:03 PM

Sykes crashed in race one, went lowside when the front wheel slipped out. Was doing really well, too, and fighting for a podium spot. Completely disappeared in the second race -- bike (or him after the crash) weren't competitive. Oh, well.

Indy250r · March 27th, 2011, 02:06 PM

Biaggi, Biaggi, Biaggi...

HKr1 · March 27th, 2011, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indy250r

Biaggi, Biaggi, Biaggi...

LOL, he had lost his mind...

CC Cowboy · March 27th, 2011, 06:38 PM

Time for a drug test. He was unexplainable!

How about that wheel coming off during the race!

Kawasaki had a pretty good crash ( as far as crashing goes).

Indy250r · March 27th, 2011, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

Time for a drug test. He was unexplainable!

How about that wheel coming off during the race!

Kawasaki had a pretty good crash ( as far as crashing goes).

The Kawi seemed to be working well for Sykes....

...'til he binned it!

A couple of great races today. Between this and MotoGP, I'm having a hard time remembering why I watch F1.

HKr1 · March 28th, 2011, 03:55 AM

Biaggi Fined for slapping Marco

Link to original page on YouTube.

gfloyd2002 · March 28th, 2011, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKr1

Biaggi Fined for slapping Marco

Clearly Marco's fault that Biaggi jumped the start in race 2 and rode like a squid in race 1. What a tool.

backinthesaddleagain · March 28th, 2011, 07:23 AM

That wheel was wild. Wish they had a pit reporter to go find out what happened. Same thing when the supersport tires were going flat at Round 1 would be nice to have some pit row coverage.
Seeing Biaggi's slapping actions just put him down on my list of riders that I like.

V2Neal · March 28th, 2011, 07:32 AM

Looks like Biaggi is up to his old form - Hit or Miss.

Suck it Max.

Quote:

Originally Posted by backinthesaddleagain

That wheel was wild. Wish they had a pit reporter to go find out what happened. Same thing when the supersport tires were going flat at Round 1 would be nice to have some pit row coverage.

Wheel broke, most likely a manufacturing defect. I'm sure it'll get looked into, but who knows if we'll ever hear the failure analysis on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnJdEFigY2I

HKr1 · March 28th, 2011, 10:09 AM

^ from that link I noticed them talking about the slap

Link to original page on YouTube.

"A" · March 29th, 2011, 07:44 AM

Sh!t

Link to original page on YouTube.

Alex · March 29th, 2011, 08:06 AM

d8ffr10.jpg broken wheel.jpg

HKr1 · March 29th, 2011, 10:05 AM

And I thought it was gonna be a Dymag

Darling Ninja · March 29th, 2011, 10:56 AM

I'm a Biaggi fan, but him slapping Melandri was just stupid and unprofessional. He needs to start acting like the champion he is. Congrats to Melandri.

The rear wheel mishap was just bizarre. Like some of the commentators were saying, it was funny in a horrible way.

Alex · March 29th, 2011, 06:12 PM

A few more pics from an earlier corner show it starting to fail:

33734.jpg 33735.jpg

photo credit

Bo0stZomb13 · March 29th, 2011, 06:32 PM

Thats nuts. To see the bmw in action though <3.

pugs24 · March 29th, 2011, 08:39 PM

In that video of Biaggi slapping Marco, I love the Italian commentators exclamations of protest and surprise. Haha.

Yeah, that second race was pretty good. I know it's only been four races, but King Carlos is looking pretty good. Speaking of looking good, Melandri's wife was gorgeous. Great tactic to keep the viewership, show the beautiful Italian women.

Darling Ninja · April 1st, 2011, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugs24

In that video of Biaggi slapping Marco, I love the Italian commentators exclamations of protest and surprise. Haha.

Yeah, that second race was pretty good. I know it's only been four races, but King Carlos is looking pretty good. Speaking of looking good, Melandri's wife was gorgeous. Great tactic to keep the viewership, show the beautiful Italian women.

OMG, yes, she is so pretty even with that hat on. How much taller is she than Melandri? He's such a little guy, and she's supermodel tall!

February 28th, 2011, 07:21 AM	#4
JeffM Mr. 988 Name: Jeff Location: Sandy, Utah Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): One Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	Missed race two. After watching race one, I went for a ride, I just could not sit on the couch any longer. I will be rooting for Max, Johnny Rea (Anyone that can jump of a burning bike at 130 mph in practice, re-crash at super pole and fix his own dislocated finger walking back to the pits, gets my support ) Eugene Laverty is the seasons dark horse surprise. __________________________________________________ "I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life, the way I want to" - Jimi Hendrix Cancer Last futzed with by JeffM; February 28th, 2011 at 10:08 AM. Reason: Changed my darkhorse

February 28th, 2011, 06:37 PM	#8
Darling Ninja ninjette.org guru Name: Annette Location: Los Angeles Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 ABS Posts: 270	Good job Melandri. Very proud of him. Rooting for Max Biaggi. I got a chance to interview him last year when he came to visit Dainese in Cali. Very nice guy off the track. On the track, he's a force to be reckoned with. __________________________________________________ "You start with a bag full of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill the bag of experience before you empty the bag of luck."

March 3rd, 2011, 08:27 PM	#11
pugs24 ninjette.org member Name: Joey Location: Romeo, MI Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 45	Goofy Question Pardon me for sounding like a total noob, but I've just started watching these races and something is confusing the hell out of me. What is a factory bike compared to a bike that isn't? From what I've been able to deduce, a factory bike receives full sponsorship from the manufacturer? Can someone clear this up for me? And I agree, I wish they did the WSBK races in HD like the MotoGP ones.

March 3rd, 2011, 08:35 PM	#12
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Yup. A "factory" team is one that isn't buying bikes from the manufacturer, but instead is run directly by the company. The "factory" teams still have sponsors and advertising to support their costs. The bikes generally get the newest and trickest parts and development. Many of the companies also have satellite and/or customer teams. Those teams have to buy or lease the bikes from the factory. Typically their parts are just that little bit older, less trick, etc. It's rare for a non-factory team to be equally competitive with a factory squad. There are fuzzy areas, with how much support the companies decide to provide to the customer teams. So this year Ducati officially pulled their factory team, and no longer has a directly supported team in the paddock. But, they provided the top-flight bikes from last year to Checa's Althea team this year. And a couple of mechanics and other team members from the factory squad last year are now on his team. And as the primary Ducati team in WSBK, even if it's not officially the "factory" team, they can likely count on reasonable support and development through the year if needed. But perhaps not to the level that Haga and Fabrizio were getting last year in an official factory team. The bikes are a bit less trick in WSBK, with more power than the spec tires can put up with over the course of the race, so there's that much more chance that a pretty good bike can keep up with a marginally superior bike, even from factory to non-factory. In MotoGP, there is so much development and resources spent on the factory teams, that the satellite teams don't have a chance anywhere near the top, and a Top 5 finish would be fantastic. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

March 27th, 2011, 08:06 AM	#15
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Motorcycle races on Speed from 3 to 7, Eastern time (no, not the far east). __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

February 27th, 2011, 04:47 PM	#1
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Wsbk Those Italian bikes run very very good. Those old guys run very very good. I thought Kawasaki's new bike was supposed to be killer? WTF! How come Suzuki can only win in the States? How come those foreign fellas have such kewl names? How come those commentators talk funny? They must be from Brooklyn. They are great to listen to, even when they're wrong. They're brilliant! __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

February 27th, 2011, 08:50 PM	#2
sharky nrk Fighting Texas Aggie '05 Name: Neil Location: Hutto, TX Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.	Very happy WSBK is back on and looking forward to GP as well. Wanted to see Rea do better but with injuries in that field, he did pretty well. The RSV4 continues to show its got crushing power, but good to see the BMWs doing well. As for the 10R, give it a few races and then we can be good and let down if it doesn't do well. Top 10s in both races is far better than last year regardless.

February 27th, 2011, 09:16 PM	#3
Zombiphone CVMA/AFM #72 Name: Tiffani Location: Los Angeles, Ca Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r (Racebike), 2015 FZ-07(Tourer), 2001 KX65(LOL bike) Posts: A lot.	Melandri came off motogp pretty nicely, it seems. I'd like to see him keep it up. I have a slight fondness for him based solely on the fact that he was teammates with Simoncelli (<3<3<3 ) and getting to watch him actually be competitive was kind of cool. I'll be rooting for him and Johnny Rea this year. That said, race 1 was boring as sin! Oh my god! Race 2 at least had a nice battle for second, but race 1 had all the thrills of the warm up lap

February 28th, 2011, 11:48 AM	#5
actionace MotoGP Junkie Name: Ace Location: San Diego, CA Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): 250 Ninja Posts: 40	Going to be a great season as pretty much all the the factories except Kawasaki & Suzuki look very competitive. I also thought the new Kawi was supposed to be hot sh!t??? My buddy (who just started watching racing) is all stoked 'cause BMW are making a good showing but us ninja riders barely even see our guys during the race Totally rooting for the tough guy Rea and see him as one who has potential to ride in MotoGP -if he can stop crashing. Laverty did a great job on his 1st ride & Marco will only start pushing harder.

February 28th, 2011, 07:24 PM	#9
backinthesaddleagain ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Greg Location: Rhode Island Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 ZX6R 636 Posts: A lot.	IIRC Laverty was #2 in world ss last year with 1 dnf so he could have been the champ in the 600 class if not for that 1 dnf.

March 3rd, 2011, 08:38 PM	#13
pugs24 ninjette.org member Name: Joey Location: Romeo, MI Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 45	Thanks for the response Alex. That's pretty interesting.

March 26th, 2011, 11:51 PM	#14
actionace MotoGP Junkie Name: Ace Location: San Diego, CA Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): 250 Ninja Posts: 40	Whoo Hoo! Tom Sykes just put a Kawasaki on the front row of the the Donington round of WSBK

March 27th, 2011, 02:03 PM	#16
gfloyd2002 User Title Free Since '12 Name: Floyd Location: Barbados Join Date: Dec 2010 Motorcycle(s): '10 Ninja 250R Special Edition Green Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 13 MOTM - Feb '12	Sykes crashed in race one, went lowside when the front wheel slipped out. Was doing really well, too, and fighting for a podium spot. Completely disappeared in the second race -- bike (or him after the crash) weren't competitive. Oh, well. __________________________________________________ "Improvement makes straight roads, but the crooked roads without improvement, are roads of genius." — William Blake

March 27th, 2011, 02:06 PM	#17
Indy250r ninjette.org member Name: Brad Location: Indiana Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2011 KTM 990 ADV Posts: 234	Biaggi, Biaggi, Biaggi...

March 27th, 2011, 06:38 PM	#19
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Time for a drug test. He was unexplainable! How about that wheel coming off during the race! Kawasaki had a pretty good crash ( as far as crashing goes). __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

March 28th, 2011, 03:55 AM	#21
HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	Biaggi Fined for slapping Marco Link to original page on YouTube.

March 28th, 2011, 07:23 AM	#23
backinthesaddleagain ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Greg Location: Rhode Island Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 ZX6R 636 Posts: A lot.	That wheel was wild. Wish they had a pit reporter to go find out what happened. Same thing when the supersport tires were going flat at Round 1 would be nice to have some pit row coverage. Seeing Biaggi's slapping actions just put him down on my list of riders that I like.

March 28th, 2011, 10:09 AM	#25
HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	^ from that link I noticed them talking about the slap Link to original page on YouTube.

March 29th, 2011, 07:44 AM	#26
"A" vampire Name: A Location: IT Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2 many 2 list Posts: A lot.	Sh!t Link to original page on YouTube.

March 29th, 2011, 08:06 AM	#27
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	d8ffr10.jpg broken wheel.jpg __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

March 29th, 2011, 10:05 AM	#28
HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	And I thought it was gonna be a Dymag

March 29th, 2011, 10:56 AM	#29
Darling Ninja ninjette.org guru Name: Annette Location: Los Angeles Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 ABS Posts: 270	I'm a Biaggi fan, but him slapping Melandri was just stupid and unprofessional. He needs to start acting like the champion he is. Congrats to Melandri. The rear wheel mishap was just bizarre. Like some of the commentators were saying, it was funny in a horrible way. __________________________________________________ "You start with a bag full of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill the bag of experience before you empty the bag of luck."

March 29th, 2011, 06:12 PM	#30
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	A few more pics from an earlier corner show it starting to fail: 33734.jpg 33735.jpg photo credit __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

March 29th, 2011, 06:32 PM	#31
Bo0stZomb13 ninjette.org member Name: Andrew Location: Pensacola / Jacksonville, FL Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 ninja 250r Posts: 97	Thats nuts. To see the bmw in action though <3.

March 29th, 2011, 08:39 PM	#32
pugs24 ninjette.org member Name: Joey Location: Romeo, MI Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 45	In that video of Biaggi slapping Marco, I love the Italian commentators exclamations of protest and surprise. Haha. Yeah, that second race was pretty good. I know it's only been four races, but King Carlos is looking pretty good. Speaking of looking good, Melandri's wife was gorgeous. Great tactic to keep the viewership, show the beautiful Italian women.

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