Pre-gen at WSIR track day?

cookiebug79 · March 18th, 2013, 05:46 PM

Has anyone taken their pre-gen 250 to WSIR for a track day?

How did it go? Was it fun? Or were the closing speeds in Turn 8/9 too high to be safe? I'm going to WSIR March 30 with Ti2TT and I am debating if I take the 250 or the 600. C group is sold out and I'm whiny-pants when I get passed too closely.

Advice please!

csmith12 · March 18th, 2013, 07:53 PM

I don't know about WSIR but closing speeds are normally a total NON issue on any bike. If you feel uncomfortable, have the control riders put a orange vest on you. The corner workers should be doing their job as well. There is protocol for that kinda stuff.

And don't be a whiny-pants, go faster and pass em back in the corners.

Zombiphone · March 18th, 2013, 09:26 PM

It's been..... probably around 2 years now, actually, but I've taken my new gen there a few times before, which isn't really any different power wise at least. If you want some practice riding the 250 with the throttle pinned for 90% of the track, WSIR is good for getting used to completely tapping out your bike. I honestly thought the track was fun on a 250, just because it was the first track that I felt completely comfortable going flat out through multiple corners on, as you just can't really make the bike go fast enough to be in much danger for a good amount of the track, and it's fun if you want to learn more about the importance of aerodynamics. I liked it in the sense that it's something different.

But as far as closing speeds, a blazing 250 pace is a mediocre everything else pace, so chances are likely you won't get the fun of passing anyone back in B group unless they're on a 250 also. The closing speeds will likely be pretty substantial, but I felt like the track was wide and open enough that it wasn't particularly unsafe, especially since, on the 250, you can pretty literally enter turn 8 from anywhere and not be in any danger of running wide.

I'd say take the 250 just for something different. I mean, the 600 is obviously a much better choice, but you've already been there and done that plenty of times, so..... SHAKE IT UP!

ahamay · March 18th, 2013, 09:47 PM

Hey Jen, I'm gonna try to make it out to this event and I'll be on the tree hundred. You can come out and play with me if you want ; )

cookiebug79 · March 18th, 2013, 10:02 PM

Ya, so I wanna take the 250 for turns 2, 3, 4, & 5. But I want the 600 for 6, 7, 8, 9, the front straight, and 1. I'm concerned that speeds in 7 through the front straight are 135-150 mph and I can't get the 250 over 95. I'm leaning towards the 250, but seriously concerned about the idiots around me mis-judging the speed difference. The poor bike was WOT all day at Buttonwillow, but once I got used to it it was pretty fun. I just don't want another Dunlop enema!

cookiebug79 · March 18th, 2013, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahamay

Hey Jen, I'm gonna try to make it out to this event and I'll be on the tree hundred. You can come out and play with me if you want ; )

Hmmmm...

Did you get your tires switched or do you need to borrow stands?

ahamay · March 18th, 2013, 10:09 PM

Tires have been switched. I have a 07 GSXR rear shock in route and I'm picking up some stands from KK. Once I have the stands I can build up the front end which will be nice.

Took it out to chuck on Friday and had some issues holding my line north of 85/90mph. Pretty excited to get everything together and see if the bike will hold a line through 8 at the big track.

cookiebug79 · March 18th, 2013, 10:10 PM

I'm also a little concerned that the bike is a pre-gen and Christian (punkasfcuk) was dragging the exhaust at Buttonwillow...

cookiebug79 · March 18th, 2013, 10:11 PM

Good stuff, Parker! You and Tiff are tipping the scales...

ahamay · March 19th, 2013, 12:35 AM

Well never mind on that one. Just went to sign up and B is also sold out, so I guess no play time with the cookie monster.

cookiebug79 · March 19th, 2013, 06:13 AM

Dammit! did you sign up for the waitlist? If you really want to go, I'm pretty sure there's a way...

ahamay · March 20th, 2013, 12:49 AM

No I didn't wait-list it. Once I seen the sale out ,I bailed out. Just went ahead and registered for a different event so no big deal. I'll try to catch up with you for the April 27/28 T.X. day.

cookiebug79 · March 20th, 2013, 09:38 AM

Curses!

Well, then I'm back to my original conundrum...

ahamay · March 23rd, 2013, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cookiebug79

Curses!

Well, then I'm back to my original conundrum...

No conundrum my dear, IT'S THE BIG TRACK! "fastest track in the west"! Gottz to take the 600 and has fun. Was just chatting with KK the other day about T-8 and the absolute rush/pounding heart/ most exciting thing since sliced bread turn that it is and I actually started missing my R6 a tad.
I say unless you or Oli plan to start raisin with MotoYard, just go to have fun. 250 for the tight tracks and 600 for the fast ones.

cookiebug79 · March 24th, 2013, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahamay

No conundrum my dear, IT'S THE BIG TRACK! "fastest track in the west"! Gottz to take the 600 and has fun. Was just chatting with KK the other day about T-8 and the absolute rush/pounding heart/ most exciting thing since sliced bread turn that it is and I actually started missing my R6 a tad.
I say unless you or Oli plan to start raisin with MotoYard, just go to have fun. 250 for the tight tracks and 600 for the fast ones.

HA! Oli just had me convinced to take the 250. We made a quick throttle for it... heh heh heh...

March 18th, 2013, 05:46 PM	#1
cookiebug79 n00b with the b00bs Name: Jen Location: Southern California Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 EX250, 2008 EX250, 2001 ZR-7S, 2010 ZX-6R Posts: 470	Pre-gen at WSIR track day? Has anyone taken their pre-gen 250 to WSIR for a track day? How did it go? Was it fun? Or were the closing speeds in Turn 8/9 too high to be safe? I'm going to WSIR March 30 with Ti2TT and I am debating if I take the 250 or the 600. C group is sold out and I'm whiny-pants when I get passed too closely. Advice please!

March 18th, 2013, 07:53 PM	#2
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	I don't know about WSIR but closing speeds are normally a total NON issue on any bike. If you feel uncomfortable, have the control riders put a orange vest on you. The corner workers should be doing their job as well. There is protocol for that kinda stuff. And don't be a whiny-pants, go faster and pass em back in the corners. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

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March 18th, 2013, 09:47 PM	#4
ahamay ninjette.org member Name: Non-ya Location: Socal Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): Tree Hundred Posts: 72	Hey Jen, I'm gonna try to make it out to this event and I'll be on the tree hundred. You can come out and play with me if you want ; )

March 18th, 2013, 10:02 PM	#5
cookiebug79 n00b with the b00bs Name: Jen Location: Southern California Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 EX250, 2008 EX250, 2001 ZR-7S, 2010 ZX-6R Posts: 470	Ya, so I wanna take the 250 for turns 2, 3, 4, & 5. But I want the 600 for 6, 7, 8, 9, the front straight, and 1. I'm concerned that speeds in 7 through the front straight are 135-150 mph and I can't get the 250 over 95. I'm leaning towards the 250, but seriously concerned about the idiots around me mis-judging the speed difference. The poor bike was WOT all day at Buttonwillow, but once I got used to it it was pretty fun. I just don't want another Dunlop enema!

March 18th, 2013, 10:09 PM	#7
ahamay ninjette.org member Name: Non-ya Location: Socal Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): Tree Hundred Posts: 72	Tires have been switched. I have a 07 GSXR rear shock in route and I'm picking up some stands from KK. Once I have the stands I can build up the front end which will be nice. Took it out to chuck on Friday and had some issues holding my line north of 85/90mph. Pretty excited to get everything together and see if the bike will hold a line through 8 at the big track.

March 18th, 2013, 10:10 PM	#8
cookiebug79 n00b with the b00bs Name: Jen Location: Southern California Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 EX250, 2008 EX250, 2001 ZR-7S, 2010 ZX-6R Posts: 470	I'm also a little concerned that the bike is a pre-gen and Christian (punkasfcuk) was dragging the exhaust at Buttonwillow...

March 18th, 2013, 10:11 PM	#9
cookiebug79 n00b with the b00bs Name: Jen Location: Southern California Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 EX250, 2008 EX250, 2001 ZR-7S, 2010 ZX-6R Posts: 470	Good stuff, Parker! You and Tiff are tipping the scales...

March 19th, 2013, 12:35 AM	#10
ahamay ninjette.org member Name: Non-ya Location: Socal Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): Tree Hundred Posts: 72	Well never mind on that one. Just went to sign up and B is also sold out, so I guess no play time with the cookie monster.

March 19th, 2013, 06:13 AM	#11
cookiebug79 n00b with the b00bs Name: Jen Location: Southern California Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 EX250, 2008 EX250, 2001 ZR-7S, 2010 ZX-6R Posts: 470	Dammit! did you sign up for the waitlist? If you really want to go, I'm pretty sure there's a way...

March 20th, 2013, 12:49 AM	#12
ahamay ninjette.org member Name: Non-ya Location: Socal Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): Tree Hundred Posts: 72	No I didn't wait-list it. Once I seen the sale out ,I bailed out. Just went ahead and registered for a different event so no big deal. I'll try to catch up with you for the April 27/28 T.X. day.

March 20th, 2013, 09:38 AM	#13
cookiebug79 n00b with the b00bs Name: Jen Location: Southern California Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 EX250, 2008 EX250, 2001 ZR-7S, 2010 ZX-6R Posts: 470	Curses! Well, then I'm back to my original conundrum...