October 3rd, 2015, 03:54 PM | #1 |
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Is Honda coming out with the bike we've all been waiting for?
The story came out a few days ago. Thought somebody else might mention it, but I guess not so I'll get the ball rolling.
Honda Lightweight Super Sport Concept It's the combination of "lightweight" and "Super Sport" that makes this one interesting.
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October 3rd, 2015, 04:30 PM | #2 |
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That thing is sexy as all hell.
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October 3rd, 2015, 04:35 PM | #3 |
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That thing is a concept bike.
Since when did any of the sexy on a concept bike make it onto a production model?
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October 3rd, 2015, 04:40 PM | #4 |
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idk, its sexy, looks like an R1M tail and a Ducati front end
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October 3rd, 2015, 04:49 PM | #5 |
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rather late to the party, Ducati did a sub 400 lb 900cc Superlight over 20 years ago.
Whatta Honda been waiting for? |
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October 3rd, 2015, 05:02 PM | #6 | |
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Not in the same category. The Honda is speculated to be 250cc, though I wouldn't be surprised to see something in the 300-400cc range if it's actually released,.. and hopefully no more than 350lbs and at least 50hp.
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October 3rd, 2015, 05:11 PM | #7 |
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all it is missing is the under tail exhaust.
beautiful bike.
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October 3rd, 2015, 05:13 PM | #8 |
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"Supersport"? I was misled by the use of the term, apparently.
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October 3rd, 2015, 05:17 PM | #9 | |
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I'm thinking more of bikes like the 250cc inline fours.
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October 3rd, 2015, 05:27 PM | #10 |
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and I don't put a 250 in the Supersport category.
The concept of lightweight, matched with a truly potent, svelte powerplant is good stuff, though. |
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October 3rd, 2015, 05:36 PM | #11 |
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250cc Super Sport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CBR250
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_Ninja_ZX-2R
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Concept bike with a single rotor up front? Tells me it's slow. And we all love slow bikes.
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very pretty pics of lightweights never sold in the US.
Here's a couple lightweight Supersports |
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Looks promising, but knowing Honda, we know they are going to b ultra conservative about it...
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October 5th, 2015, 08:27 AM | #15 |
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Does look cool. Too bad it's a Honda.
I'd rather it was a Kawasaki...or a Suzuki...or a Yamaha...or a... |
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According to the FIM technically
Superbike = 750cc 4 1000cc twin -> changed to 1000cc 4 1200cc twin Supersport = 600cc 4 750 twin -> 600cc 4 675 3 and I think technically still a 750 twin Alot of people refer to 'supersport" and "superbike" in reference to the race replica class bikes but the term has been extended to the "top tier" performance models in each displacement range. Even Kawi labels all the R bikes "supersports" while Suzi calls them "sportbikes". Either way the term is used a little bit loosely, and not work the scrutiny lol As far as this little Honda ...... I can't quite decide what the emphasis was lol. I mean its got larger upside down forks but no radial opposed piston calipers. Its got what appears to be "non-traditional" steel frame instead of the standard twin-spar aluminum for sportbikes but its got nicer aluminum swingarm. Clip ons but non-detachable subframe. As a concept it looks amazing, will be interested to see what actually makes it if the bike moves forward.
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only problem is that it looks like another parallel twin (I want the stupid high rev I4 250s)
and that it's not a kawasaki 300 with USD forks
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I'd be fine with another inline twin. Make it a screamer though. None of this cbr500 fluffy stuff.
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My $0.02 on this bike...
The entry sport bike class is now crowded with entries from four manufacturers, including Honda. We don't need another, unless: 1) Honda kills off the CBR300R single in favor of something more directly comparable to the R3 and Ninja 300 (i.e., a parallel twin entry level sportbike, with steel frame, upright ergos and nothing but shock preload for suspension adjustments), or 2) Honda ups the game with a true sport bike that has no direct competition, similar to KTM's approach but taken a step beyond. That means higher spec everything, and a higher price tag to go with it. Create that bridge between the Ninja 300 and a 600 supersport for the performance/track rider. From a business standpoint, 2 makes no sense. As much as some of us would love to see it, the demand isn't there to justify it. It'd be a machine designed for a very, very small niche market. Even 1 is questionable. Honda's smart move is to admit that the CBR300R isn't as appealing a sport bike as either the Ninjette or R3, let it disappear and just go all in on the naked version to grab the current infatuation with naked bikes. To be honest I think Honda has created some problems for itself. In the last few years it's introduced three perfectly nice faired motorcycles -- the CBR650F, the CBR500R and the CBR300R. Not one of these has garnered much interest from anyone. So what's the point of adding yet another one, if it's just going to be more of same? Honda needs to inject some passion somewhere.
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the one caveat is that while the smaller/cheaper Honda's many not have set the scene on fire in the US, they have done quite well globally with the 500s and 300s from a sales perspective.
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October 6th, 2015, 03:14 PM | #23 |
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I was wondering if you guys caught wind of the honda concept bike. If an inline 4 250cc bike actually makes it into production then that would be awesome news! (even if it is just a honda) It would only be a matter of time before the other manufacturers jumped on the bandwagon.
Although, i'd be surprised if it ever even makes it to North America, these sort of cool toys are typically never on our part of the world It sorta resembles the ninja 300. Same looking tail and similar mid fairing.
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October 6th, 2015, 03:19 PM | #24 |
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When I was shopping for a 600, I completely dismissed the new CBR600rr simply because it is slower, and uglier than my 2008 CBR600rr. IDK what honda is doing with their street bikes either. They're so far out of the game it's crazy. The only bike that seems to have a ton of interest is the honda grom, of all things!
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Right... cuz you use all that your CBR has to offer as it is.
But I see what you're saying. |
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and the GROM is a real WIN for Honda in the U.S. It wont make a bunch of money but it will intro new riders in a non threatening way... as well as inspire all the long time riders to get a little freaky play bike and live that mini hooligan life but alas the GROM is old news else where in this big world. The US is the biggest Recreational vehicle market and luxury motorcycles with our Race reps and big displacement cruisers but the most bikes are real transportation in the rest of the world.
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That Concept pic is super sick
inv forks , wheels are sleek and trim . fairings are agressive like the H2 and R1M This is how they sell passion and honda Grom in Asia lol/ nice commercial all those burn outs and wheelies are great... Groms get all the chicks. who needs a 250/300 concept https://youtu.be/vjZcbv6yTbw" TARGET="_blank">Link to original page on YouTube.
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Btw, I get your sarcasm, i was just showing the picture to illustrate how the 09's + go flat at 12ks. Why pay more money for less power, even if you only use it once in a while?
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What a b**ch... :angry:
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