February 21st, 2016, 07:01 PM | #1 |
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Ripped a hole in frame while removing kickstand mount
How screwed am i? From what I can tell all of the welds behind the frame are intact, the area doesn't feel weakened at all. Can I leave it? Slap a small piece of angle iron and JB weld? Get small piece of metal welded over top?
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February 21st, 2016, 07:04 PM | #2 |
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Never seen that... lol
I'd get it welded up properly. Call it a day after lol
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February 21st, 2016, 07:07 PM | #3 |
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February 21st, 2016, 07:09 PM | #4 | |
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Call a buddy with a welder or find a shop with a welder and have a piece welded in there and painted. Properly done, it will be strong and just fine.
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February 21st, 2016, 07:10 PM | #5 | |
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February 21st, 2016, 07:12 PM | #6 |
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Wellll......I had hoped so but past experience has taught me to never assume......
I've had people seriously consider that as an option.
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February 21st, 2016, 07:15 PM | #7 |
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I just sent an email to a local shop. Hoping they can fix it. I dont think its a major issue but wanna get it done right. Track day is in 2 weeks
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February 21st, 2016, 07:17 PM | #8 | |
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The biggest issue I see with that is now the inside of the frame, that is not painted, is exposed to water and other nasties that could cause internal rust you can't see.
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February 21st, 2016, 07:18 PM | #9 | |
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I will see what I get quoted to weld it. I can always find a way to kinda cover it to protect it. |
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February 21st, 2016, 07:21 PM | #10 |
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Well, whaddaya know! I'm gonna have to go check mine now. I never noticed a hole there before.
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February 21st, 2016, 07:21 PM | #11 |
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February 21st, 2016, 07:24 PM | #12 |
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February 21st, 2016, 07:25 PM | #13 |
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I think you're spot on that's a drain hole.
Never noticed it before.
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February 21st, 2016, 07:31 PM | #14 |
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the entire area is still welded solid. I tried to tap it to see if it was weakened but I didnt notice anything obvious.
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February 22nd, 2016, 11:49 AM | #15 |
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Have a welder grind it down nicely and weld a plate onto it! It can be done, trust me!
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February 22nd, 2016, 12:00 PM | #16 |
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I saw someone cut a peice of popcan, rivet it to the top of their piston, and shmear some JB weld on it for good measure... And then it worked.
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February 22nd, 2016, 12:38 PM | #17 |
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February 22nd, 2016, 12:58 PM | #19 |
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I was just looking at how I was going to remove the bracket yesterday and I was thinking about how I don't want to leave any unneeded material.
If I get too enthusiastic with the cutoff wheel, I fortunately have a TIG welder sitting about 6 feet away! |
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February 22nd, 2016, 02:32 PM | #20 |
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February 22nd, 2016, 05:47 PM | #21 |
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I started cutting where you can see the line of the bend on the bracket, do it lower that I did to avoid this. If i went like 1/4 inch lower I would have missed the weld. Just bad luck/ inexperience on my part. Waiting for a quote from local bike shop to get this thing fixed. I think I could ride it anyway, but no reason to halfass it. It shouldnt be a lot to fix that small of a hole.
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February 22nd, 2016, 06:11 PM | #22 |
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Come by my house, I will weld that **** up for free.
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February 22nd, 2016, 06:11 PM | #23 |
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February 22nd, 2016, 06:12 PM | #24 |
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Sometimes free is not so cheap.
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February 23rd, 2016, 11:10 AM | #26 |
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I had no part in it, told him not to try it, and would have no part in scamming someone ever. When I sell something, I make sure that the buyer knows exactly what they are buying. Sleeping at night is worth more than the few thousand dollars I can make by selling people junk.
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February 23rd, 2016, 12:29 PM | #27 |
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Drill some holes above the cut and below the cut and zip tie it up. It provides strength but also flexibility.
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February 24th, 2016, 08:21 PM | #28 |
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looks like you need a new chain, and lube it more often.
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February 25th, 2016, 11:05 AM | #31 |
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February 25th, 2016, 11:17 AM | #33 |
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February 25th, 2016, 11:51 AM | #34 |
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To repair that area, I would use a wire brush to remove the paint and clean the area, then make a patch from similar gauge sheetmetal, then MIG weld it in place.
You could possibly run numerous beads (as suggested) to close it up, but I'd probably make a patch myself. You could also gas weld it if you didn't have access to a MIG, but I would definitely close it up. |
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February 25th, 2016, 12:07 PM | #35 | |
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February 25th, 2016, 12:28 PM | #36 |
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... fix it slow, or fix it fast... but never fix it half-fast :O
the fellow above that recommended a patch is correct, as you do need to clean and wire brush the area for any weld to be sound. It doesn't look like the area is even an inch wide, so however you decide to have it fixed, it would be worth doing it right.
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February 26th, 2016, 12:27 PM | #37 |
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Took it to the shop today, mechanic told me I can ride it fine, but should get it welded. Will schedule to get it welded after track day next weekend. Will post up pics after its done.
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February 27th, 2016, 12:12 PM | #38 |
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February 27th, 2016, 12:13 PM | #39 |
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go to a muffler shop they can weld it cheap.
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