Ben Spies sucks at MotoGP

dive1tom · July 4th, 2010, 05:47 AM

It just goes to show the level of competition in the world. There are so many better riders outside of the US. Even I though Ben would podium every race. Those guys are good. I would like to see Ben run the TT. Maybe when Ben gets all his sponsor stuff worked out for next year he can come back strong. Good luck Ben!

sofo · July 4th, 2010, 09:43 AM

Yeh he only got on the podium once (so far) in his first year on the 800cc machine, what a loser.

HKr1 · July 4th, 2010, 09:54 AM

You guys are funny!

sharky nrk · July 4th, 2010, 09:55 AM

You have got to be freakin kidding me

Daeldren · July 4th, 2010, 09:56 AM

First of all keep in mind this is only his first year in motogp, second of all he is on a satellite bike not a factory bike. Satellite teams have a hard time running in front compared to the factory supported bikes, they just don't get as many go fast goodies. While he is on a M-1 bike I bet you the Fiat Yamaha M-1's are faster technically speaking.

Sailariel · July 4th, 2010, 05:41 PM

I would give anything to ride one tenth as well as Ben Spies.

TS250 · July 4th, 2010, 07:05 PM

This is Ben's rookie year. Nobody will be doing this good in their rookie year. Specially against the "Aliens".

miks · July 4th, 2010, 09:42 PM

Harsh...

Perf_White_Gt · July 5th, 2010, 12:26 PM

idk though... nicky hayden needs to get his shiz together and start producing... and bed spies is doing pretty damn good considering the equipment he starts with.

backinthesaddleagain · July 5th, 2010, 07:26 PM

Spies is having a very good rookie year.

CC Cowboy · July 6th, 2010, 09:39 AM

Ben who?

Postiez · July 6th, 2010, 04:14 PM

Hes doing about as well as I expected. The competition in GP is just so much stronger than in SBK. I feel like after the shuffle of riders if he picks up a fiat bike he could be much better. I think that hes a rookie isn't as much of an issue as people seem to make it. He has been riding for a long time.

binlagin · July 7th, 2010, 09:55 AM

Bad troll is bad

KJohnson21 · July 7th, 2010, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Postiez

He has been riding for a long time.

Check the stats. All of the professionals have been riding a long time. He just does it better than most.

austexjg · July 7th, 2010, 11:58 AM

Elbowz will be on top in a matter of a few seasons - remember that some tracks are new to him and the level of competition is world-class.

Postiez · July 7th, 2010, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KJohnson21

Check the stats. All of the professionals have been riding a long time. He just does it better than most.

Quote:

I think that hes a rookie isn't as much of an issue as people seem to make it. He has been riding for a long time.

lol, thats not contrary to what i was saying at all 0o

Postman · July 8th, 2010, 04:16 AM

Ben's already proven that he's faster than the bike.

KJohnson21 · July 8th, 2010, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Postiez

lol, thats not contrary to what i was saying at all 0o

Sorry for the confusion. I'm trying to say that I don't think that anyone finds his rookie status as an "issue". I think that everyone's impressed that a rookie can be so high in the standings. Usually the rookie year is sort of regarded as a throwaway because the rider "doesn't know the track" or "doesn't know the bike".

I'm curious. Does anyone know when was the last time a rookie got on the podium in MotoGP?

And then there's Ben's rookie year in WSBK...

KJohnson21 · July 8th, 2010, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KJohnson21

I'm curious. Does anyone know when was the last time a rookie got on the podium in MotoGP?

Found it! 2008, Jorge Lorenzo and Andrea Dovizioso.

Wow! How could I forget Lorenzo? He's definitely another one that should be wearing a cape. And not to discount Dovizioso, but if Lorenzo hadn't of crashed out on the twelfth lap, Dovi probably wouldn't have gotten on the podium.

KJohnson21 · July 8th, 2010, 01:01 PM

One more: http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/...ar-round-seven

This is a direct comparison of this years rookies.

camaroz1985 · July 8th, 2010, 01:47 PM

He is doing great as a rookie. Its a new bike, different tires, and a bunch of the tracks are new to him as well. He is also on a satellite bike. I'm not making excuses, but those are the facts. Also if memory serves me correctly the last person to win a race on a non-factory bike was Lorenzo in 2008.

It's not that Spies isn't good enough to ride a factory bike, its just the rules that dictate you can't ride for a factory team your rookie year (Suzuki is exempt because they don't have customer bikes). Also if things go as they are looking to go (Rossi to Ducati, Stoner to Honda), Spies will be on a factory bike next year for sure.

Alex · July 8th, 2010, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaroz1985

Also if memory serves me correctly the last person to win a race on a non-factory bike was Lorenzo in 2008.

Lorenzo's been on a factory bike since day 1 in MotoGP, he's never been on a satellite machine. The rookie rule is brand new for this year. (silly rule!) As far as I remember, Melandri was the last satellite rider to win a race in 2006, in his first stint on the Gresini Honda.

camaroz1985 · July 9th, 2010, 07:36 AM

You are right, For some reason I was thinking Lorenzo was on a satellite bike, in that case it was definitely Melandri. I thought the rookie rule was in effect last year, but I'm probably wrong on that too

The fact that it was Melandri back in 2006 further makes the point that its not easy to do, but that was also on the 990 which would be easier for most Superbike riders to adapt to (I know that is not Melandri's background, but it is Spies')

July 4th, 2010, 05:47 AM	#1
dive1tom ninjette.org member Name: Tom Location: Tennessee Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 Posts: 23	Ben Spies sucks at MotoGP It just goes to show the level of competition in the world. There are so many better riders outside of the US. Even I though Ben would podium every race. Those guys are good. I would like to see Ben run the TT. Maybe when Ben gets all his sponsor stuff worked out for next year he can come back strong. Good luck Ben!

July 4th, 2010, 09:56 AM	#5
Daeldren two wheel addict Name: Kenneth Location: Simpsonville, SC Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 94 xlh 883, 1984 kawi gpz money pit Posts: 556	First of all keep in mind this is only his first year in motogp, second of all he is on a satellite bike not a factory bike. Satellite teams have a hard time running in front compared to the factory supported bikes, they just don't get as many go fast goodies. While he is on a M-1 bike I bet you the Fiat Yamaha M-1's are faster technically speaking. __________________________________________________ The M endorsement on my license stands for mental.

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July 4th, 2010, 09:43 AM	#2
sofo ninjette.org guru Name: Andrew Location: Vancouver, BC Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 410	Yeh he only got on the podium once (so far) in his first year on the 800cc machine, what a loser.

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HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	You guys are funny!

July 4th, 2010, 09:55 AM	#4
sharky nrk Fighting Texas Aggie '05 Name: Neil Location: Hutto, TX Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.	You have got to be freakin kidding me

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Sailariel ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Alex Location: Belfast, ME Join Date: Jul 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Honda NT-700-V, formerly, Green 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	I would give anything to ride one tenth as well as Ben Spies.

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TS250 ninjette.org member Name: MARCO Location: OKLAHOMA Join Date: Feb 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 NINJA 250, BLACK, 650 NINJA 2009, RED, F 650GS BMW 2012 YELLOW Posts: 94 Blog Entries: 1	This is Ben's rookie year. Nobody will be doing this good in their rookie year. Specially against the "Aliens".

July 5th, 2010, 12:26 PM	#9
Perf_White_Gt ninjette.org member Name: Christopher Location: Texas State University Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): Trek Alpha 1.2 Posts: 56	idk though... nicky hayden needs to get his shiz together and start producing... and bed spies is doing pretty damn good considering the equipment he starts with.

July 5th, 2010, 07:26 PM	#10
backinthesaddleagain ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Greg Location: Rhode Island Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 ZX6R 636 Posts: A lot.	Spies is having a very good rookie year.

July 6th, 2010, 04:14 PM	#12
Postiez ninjette.org member Name: Nick Location: SALT LAKE CITY, UT Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): Red '08 250 Posts: 233	Hes doing about as well as I expected. The competition in GP is just so much stronger than in SBK. I feel like after the shuffle of riders if he picks up a fiat bike he could be much better. I think that hes a rookie isn't as much of an issue as people seem to make it. He has been riding for a long time.

July 7th, 2010, 11:58 AM	#15
austexjg ninjette.org sage Name: J.G. Location: Austin Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 zx6r Green/Black, (ex-)Diablo Black '09 Ninja 250r Posts: 959	Elbowz will be on top in a matter of a few seasons - remember that some tracks are new to him and the level of competition is world-class.

July 8th, 2010, 04:16 AM	#17
Postman ninjette.org member Name: CJ Location: San Diego, CA Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 250r, 09 R6 Posts: 10	Ben's already proven that he's faster than the bike.

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KJohnson21 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ken Location: Indio, CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Kawasaki EX250 "Yoshi", '99 Kawasaki Concours "Grace", '06 Concours "Belle", '06 Yamaha YZF600R "Slick" Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 3	One more: http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/...ar-round-seven This is a direct comparison of this years rookies. __________________________________________________ < ATGATT > Sweat you can wipe off, Road rash you can't. HEY!! Unregistered!! Does your bike have a name?

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camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	He is doing great as a rookie. Its a new bike, different tires, and a bunch of the tracks are new to him as well. He is also on a satellite bike. I'm not making excuses, but those are the facts. Also if memory serves me correctly the last person to win a race on a non-factory bike was Lorenzo in 2008. It's not that Spies isn't good enough to ride a factory bike, its just the rules that dictate you can't ride for a factory team your rookie year (Suzuki is exempt because they don't have customer bikes). Also if things go as they are looking to go (Rossi to Ducati, Stoner to Honda), Spies will be on a factory bike next year for sure.

July 9th, 2010, 07:36 AM	#23
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	You are right, For some reason I was thinking Lorenzo was on a satellite bike, in that case it was definitely Melandri. I thought the rookie rule was in effect last year, but I'm probably wrong on that too The fact that it was Melandri back in 2006 further makes the point that its not easy to do, but that was also on the 990 which would be easier for most Superbike riders to adapt to (I know that is not Melandri's background, but it is Spies')

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