I'm not sure if I really want a motorcycle.

Heed · October 8th, 2011, 02:03 PM

You read the title correctly, I've got to be honest with myself.

It's not that I don't think I am mature enough, I'm just not sure if it's the right lifestyle for me.

Changing the oil, the filter, lubricating the chain, checking tire pressure, replacing tires, brake fluid, coolant, replacing the spark plugs (I don't know what these are), cleaning the carbs (I don't know what this means), winterizing and whatnot is a lot of responsibility on your shoulders and is a job itself.

I don't have any experience working with the oily bits. But I think I more worried about letting my bike down resulting in minor cosmetic damage let alone getting into an accident.

It's not like I don't have a lot of time on my hands. I'm not going to school currently and I work part time averaging maybe 15 hours a week. I haven't spent a dime in a years because I know I am going to buy a used car eventually if I don't get a motorcycle, but either way, money is going to be tight down the road so to speak.

I don't really know what I want to do in my life but I know that it's not sitting at home behind the monitor day after day for countless hours. I need a hobby and desperately need to get out of the house. I think motorcycles might be the answer to that.

It has been about 2 months since I've last been on two wheels. I got my endorsement. It's just a matter of me making a thorough decision. If I do follow through, I plan on buying a new (I know) Ninja 250r this winter.

Malicious Logic · October 8th, 2011, 02:12 PM

Do you have any past experience with mechanics? or are you not sure you'll like working with it?

I have very limited mechanical knowledge myself and don't have a bike yet...plan on getting one in the spring. One of the things that I'm most looking forward to when I get the bike is working with it and learning all the things you mentioned. No one buys a bike being a mechanical genius and I'm sure there's a good number of people on this forum that didn't know about working on a bike before they got one.

It'll probably take a good amount of dedication to your bike to do all the stuff you mentioned, I'll give you that, but you said you needed a hobby and needed something to do other than just hanging around inside all day. Unless you're the type of person who is just not at all interested in working on the bike or even learning, I think it would be good for you. There's plenty of DIYs out there to help with just about any issues you run into and this forum is more than helpful if you just ask. You could also maybe try to connect with other riders in your area and possibly get some help from them. Think of it as a hobby that will get you out of the house, provide you with transportation, and possibly introduce you to some great people.

bob706 · October 8th, 2011, 02:14 PM

live a little....

vujack · October 8th, 2011, 02:36 PM

You're gonna have to do the same **** with a car.

rusninja · October 8th, 2011, 02:40 PM

yup eventually youll need to do that to a car.

alex.s · October 8th, 2011, 02:48 PM

the only difference between it and a car for maintenance is chain lube... which isn't hard and if you really don't want to do it you can get one of those auto luber things. you take your car to a mechanic to have its oil changed and have it serviced right? why not take the bike if you don't have the time to do the work

csmith12 · October 8th, 2011, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob706

live a little....

+1

I can here it now, "If only I would have bought my own bike......."

Mr.E · October 8th, 2011, 03:14 PM

I have no experience with mechanics at all and will be bringing my bike into either dealerships for maintenance or a garage I found near me thats cheaper. I think one day I'll try doing some maintenance my self, such as an oil change and what not, but that'll be down the road. It's not necessary to have knowledge about that stuff if you want a bike. It would help, but eventually you'll learn about it or just take it to a shop.

Jono · October 8th, 2011, 04:37 PM

You have 400+ post but don't have a motorcycle? What? Go get one. You need a hobby!

OGjackafidy · October 8th, 2011, 04:45 PM

Don't make it about the mechanics. I had no mechanical background when I bought my bike and I am not willing to pay 85/hr for somebody else to do it. That's why you have all of us and hundreds of other websites to teach you how to do that. I do all my own matinence and this site and YouTube have been very helpful with that

Mr.E · October 8th, 2011, 05:03 PM

With all thats being said though, I posted what I did since it seems mechanical stuff is your only issue. If you have a fear for your life and just dont want to take the risk, then by all means get a car instead or something else. The other users are right, you would have to do the same maintenance to a car like you would a bike, but a minor maintenance in a car could be a huge one for a bike........ Car wise, you could go for a long time without oil changes and what not. I cant remember the last time my family changed the oil in our cars. But motorcycle wise, itd be bad.

massacremasses · October 8th, 2011, 05:06 PM

wtf?

dude its not that big of a deal. Pay someone if youre not comfortable doing it...

DarC · October 8th, 2011, 08:04 PM

Like many have said, when you buy a motorcycle you not only get a mode of transportation but you also buy into a lifestyle. This lifestyle comes with it's pros and cons but the greatest thing is you will have membership in a group of people that are willing to help in making motorcycling as great a joy for you as it is for them.

I'm also certain that there is quite possibly a ninjetter nearby that would be willing to help. All else failing you have this site and youtube. If you have the agility to ride a bike then you certainly have what it takes to spray some lube and twist a few screws. Go slow, ask questions, and just enjoy life. It only comes around once.

mike · October 8th, 2011, 09:02 PM

agreed. do it! you wont regret it. you can have your oil and coolant changed professionally pretty cheap if you dont feel comfortable doing it yourself

Xoulrath · October 8th, 2011, 11:38 PM

Seriously, buy the damn bike. It's totally worth it.

setasai · October 8th, 2011, 11:57 PM

That's almost the same question as "should I upgrade?" In this forum you are going to get pro-motorcycling. What you are feeling is entirely understandable. Not wanting to do any of the maintence is common and many riders have mechanics do it but if you dont think you like riding then I think you know the answer.

Lil_Green_Demon · October 9th, 2011, 07:20 AM

OP, you obviously can't make up your mind. You started your post off saying you're not sure if you want to get into motorcycle ownership, but towards the end, it seemed as though you changed your mind half-way through and decided that riding a motorcycle would be a good hobby for you.

All I have to say about the mechanical aspect of motorcycle ownership is that everything you mentioned, including the spark plugs but excluding the carb work (I guess that would depend on how old the car is), HAS to be done to a car, too. Ya dig? In other words, unless you're willing to pay a dealership/mechanic to do the work for you, you're still going to end up paying for maintenance one way or another, no matter what type of vehicle you purchase. Hell, you'll have to do similar work on a scooter, too!

The choice is yours whether you decide to buy a bike or not.
All I can add to this is that I initially had never worked on a vehicle myself, but if I can do an oil change and chain lube on my bike, I'm sure anyone can. They're so easy!

nealt · October 9th, 2011, 07:51 AM

I will also agree with what everyone else has said about maintenance. Like many things in life, if you have to do it you will learn. If you are looking to ride just because of the image then this may explain the hesitation. If you truly enjoy riding it shouldn't matter what you ride be it bicycle, unicycle or motorbike(any motorbike).
Personally I find my bike is a time compressor. A 3 hour drive in the car can feel like forever, yet I can ride all day without a thought as to how long I have been in the saddle. The bike keeps me sane, it's the 180 I need to pull all the stresses out of my head and refocuses my mind.
If you truly like being on two wheels, the maintenance aspect is just a part of riding as a whole.
One caveat is to make sure your finances can support this (bike, gear, maintenance and insurance) activity. If so go ahead and enjoy...

Xoulrath · October 9th, 2011, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by nealt

If you truly enjoy riding it shouldn't matter what you ride be it bicycle, unicycle or motorbike(any motorbike).

Well said, neal. I couldn't imagine not riding motorcycles. I love them. They are a lifestyle for me. I know for some people they are just show pieces or toys. For me, by bike is commuter and toy all in one. I ride to ride, not to be seen riding. I bought some thermal base layers today so I can start to deal with the 40-50 degree rides home from school at night with no sun. Like I said, I love it.

John, if you have enjoyed riding and want to continue that enjoyment, then get the bike. If not, then don't.

nickjpass · October 9th, 2011, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nealt

If you truly enjoy riding it shouldn't matter what you ride be it bicycle, unicycle or motorbike(any motorbike).

That's the reason I ride my bicycle every day. That and I want to lose some fat haha.

kaiserz · October 9th, 2011, 03:54 PM

Motorcycling is an expensive hobby. and there are lots of risks that are gonna be involve.

I say if you're gonna be halfhearted in getting a motorcycle, just don't, there's always next year or next next year.
Also it's still practical to get a car vs a bike. yes a bike is much cheaper on gas, but it needs lots of love and dedication and attention. Also I'm just wondering, do you have health insurance? is this gonna be your first bike? how old are you? cause if it is and you're <25 are you willing to pay 70+ a month on insurance? there are so much risk involve in motorcycling. there's also gear. last year alone I've spent $1k+ on gear alone.
are you willing to pay $100+ on maintenance? how bout tires? how about if you get into an accident?

IMHO motorcycles are not practical. (but I love em)

About something to do, why not try jui jitsu? krav maga? muay thai?

anyway good luck

cuz · October 9th, 2011, 05:57 PM

a motorcycle is cheaper OVERALL (next to a car) ,learn something new (oil change, clean chain) on the way too I can say buying this ninja is 1 of my best desisions I ever made.

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massacremasses · October 9th, 2011, 09:55 PM

This thread should be called. "Im not sure if Im a man"

lol jk jk

heylookitsfranco · October 9th, 2011, 10:17 PM

That's exactly the situation my older brother found himself in some years ago. in the end he didn't get the bike, and he's fine with that. I went ahead and got my bike, and I don't regret becoming a motorcyclist one bit. actually, being a biker is one of the FEW things I really and truly don't regret.

Way I see things is you're only young and stupid once. At the very least, it'll make for a good story.

Firehorse · October 9th, 2011, 10:32 PM

Maybe test the water first, get a used bike for less money and use the basic maintenance thing as a way to gain a valuable skill.

Being good with your hands, following instructions, organizational skills etc will serve you well in all areas of your life, not just those mechanic-type things.

If later you hate the work, service it out, if you hate the lifestyle, sell the bike but live life with no regrets.

SteveL · October 9th, 2011, 11:41 PM

I would say go for it but wait till spring, no point in having a new bike in your garage all winter that you can’t use. Unless you can get a very good deal because it’s the end of the season leave it till next year.

Steve

Boom King · October 10th, 2011, 12:00 AM

Don't try to over think or complicate it. You're making it sound more like a chore than it really is. Other than changing the oil and lubing the chain on occasion, how often do you think you will be changing tires or spark plugs? Checking tire pressure takes a few minutes and takes less time on a motorcycle than it does a car, 2 tires vs. 4.

It's good that you're trying to make an thorough decision but if you really want to get a bike, just get one and you'll find that the rest of the stuff, like maintenance, will sort itself out. On the other hand, if you find yourself making excuses/reasons not to get a bike, then it might be sign that it may not be for you. It happens. There's nothing wrong with that either. There will be other opportunities down the line for when and if you feel you're ready. Best of luck.

kingkang204 · October 10th, 2011, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kaiserz

Motorcycling is an expensive hobby. and there are lots of risks that are gonna be involve.

I say if you're gonna be halfhearted in getting a motorcycle, just don't, there's always next year or next next year.
Also it's still practical to get a car vs a bike. yes a bike is much cheaper on gas, but it needs lots of love and dedication and attention. Also I'm just wondering, do you have health insurance? is this gonna be your first bike? how old are you? cause if it is and you're <25 are you willing to pay 70+ a month on insurance? there are so much risk involve in motorcycling. there's also gear. last year alone I've spent $1k+ on gear alone.
are you willing to pay $100+ on maintenance? how bout tires? how about if you get into an accident?

IMHO motorcycles are not practical. (but I love em)

About something to do, why not try jui jitsu? krav maga? muay thai?

anyway good luck

You have to consider that insurance for a car *Could* be equally as expensive(although not likely). Car maintenance is much more expensive than motorcycle maintenance. Doing an oil change is not hard at all, its literally 2 bolts on the bottom of the bike and it costs like $30 bucks to buy a gallon of Shell Rotella T6 and an oil filter. Also as far as tires go, you're going to be replacing 4 tires instead of 2. A set of BT-016's cost like ~$200, a set of good tires for a car cost at least triple that. Depending on what he has to carry on a daily basis determines whether a motorcycle is practical for him or not. I agree that good gear is very expensive and is an initial investment.

MotoED · October 10th, 2011, 12:38 AM

I also don't have any experience with the oily bits. I just held the light for pops!

Thanks to this forum and all the useful DIY's here I learned a few things... and still learning!
But if you don't want to do all that required maintenance on your own, then I'm sure someone will do it for you.... For a fee of course.

By the way, this is one, if not, the BEST hobbies I have. It's also healthy for me

akima · October 10th, 2011, 06:25 AM

Before I got my bike, a biker I met told me that I should make sure I buy a bike that I like the look of. His reasoning being that I would have to spend time cleaning it and maintaining it: having a pretty bike makes it a lot easier.

I do very little of my own maintenance at present -- just the basics -- but I intend to learn the more complicated stuff over time. I don't feel at all bad taking the bike to a mechanic though. I doubt it costs me much more than doing it myself. If I do it myself I need to buy lots of equipment and I need the space to store it.

At present I love the cleaning and maintenance I do on my bike. It's nice to care for my machine! The manual that comes with the Ninjette explains quite clearly how to do things.

Also: if you're anything like me, then once you have a taste of riding then you can't turn back. I went from never really acknowledging motorcycles, to dedicating a huge chunk of my waking hours to them! I hope this doesn't change either. I've never done anything which matches the feeling of riding. Some one on this forum said that you can get similar feelings from sky diving. Haven't tried that yet.

Heed · October 10th, 2011, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malicious Logic

Do you have any past experience with mechanics? or are you not sure you'll like working with it?

I don't have any past experience whatsoever.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob706

live a little....

:0

Quote:

Originally Posted by vujack

You're gonna have to do the same **** with a car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusninja

yup eventually youll need to do that to a car.

Yeah, I guess so.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

the only difference between it and a car for maintenance is chain lube... which isn't hard and if you really don't want to do it you can get one of those auto luber things. you take your car to a mechanic to have its oil changed and have it serviced right? why not take the bike if you don't have the time to do the work

Yeah, I think most people should know how to change their own oil, though. Not that I know how to myself, but from what I've been told (from my dad), it's a hell of a lot cheaper to do it on your own.

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Originally Posted by csmith12

+1

I can here it now, "If only I would have bought my own bike......."

Yeah.. I mean I don't want to grow up, have kids and drive a mini van.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.E

I have no experience with mechanics at all and will be bringing my bike into either dealerships for maintenance or a garage I found near me thats cheaper. I think one day I'll try doing some maintenance my self, such as an oil change and what not, but that'll be down the road. It's not necessary to have knowledge about that stuff if you want a bike. It would help, but eventually you'll learn about it or just take it to a shop.

I guess there's always DIYs on Youtube. I just don't want to f*ck anything up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil7153

You have 400+ posts on this thread. You basically do nothing but talk motorcycle stuff, might as well get a bike. Like they say, "Dont be a bitch dude"

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Originally Posted by Jono

You have 400+ post but don't have a motorcycle? What? Go get one. You need a hobby!

yeah, my posts speak for themself. I have no hobby or anything going for me right now really.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OGjackafidy

Don't make it about the mechanics. I had no mechanical background when I bought my bike and I am not willing to pay 85/hr for somebody else to do it. That's why you have all of us and hundreds of other websites to teach you how to do that. I do all my own matinence and this site and YouTube have been very helpful with that

true

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.E

With all thats being said though, I posted what I did since it seems mechanical stuff is your only issue. If you have a fear for your life and just dont want to take the risk, then by all means get a car instead or something else. The other users are right, you would have to do the same maintenance to a car like you would a bike, but a minor maintenance in a car could be a huge one for a bike........ Car wise, you could go for a long time without oil changes and what not. I cant remember the last time my family changed the oil in our cars. But motorcycle wise, itd be bad.

Yeah I think that's the only difference. Cars almost take care of themselves these days. I'm talking about cars like a Civic or a Corolla. You can drive the snot out of it, not really take care of it according to the books and it will still get 200K+ miles.

Quote:

Originally Posted by massacremasses

wtf?

dude its not that big of a deal. Pay someone if youre not comfortable doing it...

k

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarC

Like many have said, when you buy a motorcycle you not only get a mode of transportation but you also buy into a lifestyle. This lifestyle comes with it's pros and cons but the greatest thing is you will have membership in a group of people that are willing to help in making motorcycling as great a joy for you as it is for them.

I'm also certain that there is quite possibly a ninjetter nearby that would be willing to help. All else failing you have this site and youtube. If you have the agility to ride a bike then you certainly have what it takes to spray some lube and twist a few screws. Go slow, ask questions, and just enjoy life. It only comes around once.

yeah, I really need to get a means of transportation because the way I see it, getting a vehicle is going to open doors to other stuff I wanna do with my life.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike

agreed. do it! you wont regret it. you can have your oil and coolant changed professionally pretty cheap if you dont feel comfortable doing it yourself

ya

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xoulrath

Seriously, buy the damn bike. It's totally worth it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by setasai

That's almost the same question as "should I upgrade?" In this forum you are going to get pro-motorcycling. What you are feeling is entirely understandable. Not wanting to do any of the maintence is common and many riders have mechanics do it but if you dont think you like riding then I think you know the answer.

true

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil_Green_Demon

OP, you obviously can't make up your mind. You started your post off saying you're not sure if you want to get into motorcycle ownership, but towards the end, it seemed as though you changed your mind half-way through and decided that riding a motorcycle would be a good hobby for you.

All I have to say about the mechanical aspect of motorcycle ownership is that everything you mentioned, including the spark plugs but excluding the carb work (I guess that would depend on how old the car is), HAS to be done to a car, too. Ya dig? In other words, unless you're willing to pay a dealership/mechanic to do the work for you, you're still going to end up paying for maintenance one way or another, no matter what type of vehicle you purchase. Hell, you'll have to do similar work on a scooter, too!

The choice is yours whether you decide to buy a bike or not.
All I can add to this is that I initially had never worked on a vehicle myself, but if I can do an oil change and chain lube on my bike, I'm sure anyone can. They're so easy!

I know I am being an indecisive bitch here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nealt

Personally I find my bike is a time compressor. A 3 hour drive in the car can feel like forever, yet I can ride all day without a thought as to how long I have been in the saddle. The bike keeps me sane, it's the 180 I need to pull all the stresses out of my head and refocuses my mind.

i never thought of it that way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaiserz

Motorcycling is an expensive hobby. and there are lots of risks that are gonna be involve.

I say if you're gonna be halfhearted in getting a motorcycle, just don't, there's always next year or next next year.
Also it's still practical to get a car vs a bike. yes a bike is much cheaper on gas, but it needs lots of love and dedication and attention. Also I'm just wondering, do you have health insurance? is this gonna be your first bike? how old are you? cause if it is and you're <25 are you willing to pay 70+ a month on insurance? there are so much risk involve in motorcycling. there's also gear. last year alone I've spent $1k+ on gear alone.
are you willing to pay $100+ on maintenance? how bout tires? how about if you get into an accident?

IMHO motorcycles are not practical. (but I love em)

About something to do, why not try jui jitsu? krav maga? muay thai?

anyway good luck

I have health insurance via my dad's company until I am 26.

This will be my first bike.

I am 19.

Yes, I have no choice. Insurance is mandatory. The costs are going to rape my wallet but a car would too anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by massacremasses

This thread should be called. "Im not sure if Im a man"

lol jk jk

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveL

I would say go for it but wait till spring, no point in having a new bike in your garage all winter that you can’t use. Unless you can get a very good deal because it’s the end of the season leave it till next year.

Steve

Yeah, I'm not sure. Since the 250 is so popular it isn't going to be significantly cheaper in the Winter, but I figure I could save a few hundred bucks maybe if i bought in the winter.

It's October. The leafs are falling, it's starting to get cold in the mornings.

massacremasses · October 10th, 2011, 01:56 PM

Get it!!!!!!!!!!

Peer pressure!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Numbersix · October 10th, 2011, 02:02 PM

I'd hang on for now; last year around February a couple Ninjettes turned up at my local dealership for $2k each. Shortly after the frost cleared they were spoken for and gone.

OTOH now is also the time when less than dedicated riders decide that they don't want to bother with storage &/or battery tenders. Initially you'll see high asking prices but patience followed by an offer can net a good deal (and the privilege of looking at the new bike through the snowy times).

Hopmix · October 10th, 2011, 02:09 PM

I know your into a ninja but if your just looking fro commuting there are other bikes. ex..
Honda cbr 250r ... if you keep it stock, service schedule 500- 4000 -8000-12000
Oil change recommended at 500 first service then 8000 then 16000. Chain lube is recommended every 600 but really you just keep an eye on it. I say spray some lube on every 2 tanks or 400. Thats much less service than a car. Im not sure about the ninjette but i cant imagine its much more intense than that.

Heed · October 10th, 2011, 02:18 PM

i think ergonomically the Ninja 250 is my best bet. I'm a pretty small guy and the seat height should be ideal for me. i never sat on a ninja before though so that can all change

Hopmix · October 10th, 2011, 02:25 PM

same height. the point was the maintenance though. Not as frequent as car, but more expensive than car. at least the honda. service manual can be a great investment though.

NDspd · October 10th, 2011, 05:02 PM

Personally, I didn't have a whole lot of experience with the maintenance of a car or a bike. But after just a month or so of reading and working on the bike itself I know a whole lot more. My 250r was my first ever bike and I was kind of scared on getting on it, but as long as you learn fast, and smartly you'll do fine.

Be safe.

October 8th, 2011, 02:03 PM	#1
Heed ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: John Location: Illinois Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): None yet, yet. Posts: A lot.	I'm not sure if I really want a motorcycle. You read the title correctly, I've got to be honest with myself. It's not that I don't think I am mature enough, I'm just not sure if it's the right lifestyle for me. Changing the oil, the filter, lubricating the chain, checking tire pressure, replacing tires, brake fluid, coolant, replacing the spark plugs (I don't know what these are), cleaning the carbs (I don't know what this means), winterizing and whatnot is a lot of responsibility on your shoulders and is a job itself. I don't have any experience working with the oily bits. But I think I more worried about letting my bike down resulting in minor cosmetic damage let alone getting into an accident. It's not like I don't have a lot of time on my hands. I'm not going to school currently and I work part time averaging maybe 15 hours a week. I haven't spent a dime in a years because I know I am going to buy a used car eventually if I don't get a motorcycle, but either way, money is going to be tight down the road so to speak. I don't really know what I want to do in my life but I know that it's not sitting at home behind the monitor day after day for countless hours. I need a hobby and desperately need to get out of the house. I think motorcycles might be the answer to that. It has been about 2 months since I've last been on two wheels. I got my endorsement. It's just a matter of me making a thorough decision. If I do follow through, I plan on buying a new (I know) Ninja 250r this winter. __________________________________________________ The Rush is Addictive

October 8th, 2011, 02:14 PM	#3
bob706 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sean Location: Mary Esther, FL Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 1998 HD Road King Posts: A lot.	live a little.... __________________________________________________ http://sandollarmotorcycleclub.com/

October 8th, 2011, 02:36 PM	#4
vujack ninjette.org member Name: Jack Location: Orange County, CA Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 250R SE GREEN Posts: 16	You're gonna have to do the same **** with a car. __________________________________________________ Vrooooooooom

October 8th, 2011, 02:40 PM	#5
rusninja Ninjette wanabe :D Name: Ruslan Location: San Jose Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): white 300 :D Posts: A lot.	yup eventually youll need to do that to a car. __________________________________________________ VROOOM vrooom >.>

October 8th, 2011, 02:48 PM	#6
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	the only difference between it and a car for maintenance is chain lube... which isn't hard and if you really don't want to do it you can get one of those auto luber things. you take your car to a mechanic to have its oil changed and have it serviced right? why not take the bike if you don't have the time to do the work __________________________________________________

October 8th, 2011, 02:12 PM	#2
Malicious Logic hates stupid people Name: Mark Location: Oklahoma City Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2005 ZX6R Posts: 860	Do you have any past experience with mechanics? or are you not sure you'll like working with it? I have very limited mechanical knowledge myself and don't have a bike yet...plan on getting one in the spring. One of the things that I'm most looking forward to when I get the bike is working with it and learning all the things you mentioned. No one buys a bike being a mechanical genius and I'm sure there's a good number of people on this forum that didn't know about working on a bike before they got one. It'll probably take a good amount of dedication to your bike to do all the stuff you mentioned, I'll give you that, but you said you needed a hobby and needed something to do other than just hanging around inside all day. Unless you're the type of person who is just not at all interested in working on the bike or even learning, I think it would be good for you. There's plenty of DIYs out there to help with just about any issues you run into and this forum is more than helpful if you just ask. You could also maybe try to connect with other riders in your area and possibly get some help from them. Think of it as a hobby that will get you out of the house, provide you with transportation, and possibly introduce you to some great people.

October 8th, 2011, 03:14 PM	#8
Mr.E That rider dude. Name: Eric Location: Orlando, Fl. Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 White Ninja 250 SE. Posts: A lot.	I have no experience with mechanics at all and will be bringing my bike into either dealerships for maintenance or a garage I found near me thats cheaper. I think one day I'll try doing some maintenance my self, such as an oil change and what not, but that'll be down the road. It's not necessary to have knowledge about that stuff if you want a bike. It would help, but eventually you'll learn about it or just take it to a shop. __________________________________________________ Mods: flushmount Led front binkers, diode mod, pazzo levers, clear tank pad, racing replica grips, bike monkeys integrated tal light, zx-2r vinyls, rearsets, red bar ends, and more red accented stuff.

October 8th, 2011, 04:37 PM	#9
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	You have 400+ post but don't have a motorcycle? What? Go get one. You need a hobby!

October 8th, 2011, 04:45 PM	#10
OGjackafidy ninjette.org member Name: Jack Location: columbia MO Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): Red 2009 Ninja 250r Posts: 132	Don't make it about the mechanics. I had no mechanical background when I bought my bike and I am not willing to pay 85/hr for somebody else to do it. That's why you have all of us and hundreds of other websites to teach you how to do that. I do all my own matinence and this site and YouTube have been very helpful with that __________________________________________________ "The goal in life is to die young at a very old age" " Four wheels moves the body, two wheels moves the soul'

October 8th, 2011, 05:03 PM	#11
Mr.E That rider dude. Name: Eric Location: Orlando, Fl. Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 White Ninja 250 SE. Posts: A lot.	With all thats being said though, I posted what I did since it seems mechanical stuff is your only issue. If you have a fear for your life and just dont want to take the risk, then by all means get a car instead or something else. The other users are right, you would have to do the same maintenance to a car like you would a bike, but a minor maintenance in a car could be a huge one for a bike........ Car wise, you could go for a long time without oil changes and what not. I cant remember the last time my family changed the oil in our cars. But motorcycle wise, itd be bad. __________________________________________________ Mods: flushmount Led front binkers, diode mod, pazzo levers, clear tank pad, racing replica grips, bike monkeys integrated tal light, zx-2r vinyls, rearsets, red bar ends, and more red accented stuff.

October 8th, 2011, 05:06 PM	#12
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	wtf? dude its not that big of a deal. Pay someone if youre not comfortable doing it... __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

October 8th, 2011, 08:04 PM	#13
DarC DUCEATR Name: Dan Location: El Paso, Texas Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): RVT1000R Posts: 628	Like many have said, when you buy a motorcycle you not only get a mode of transportation but you also buy into a lifestyle. This lifestyle comes with it's pros and cons but the greatest thing is you will have membership in a group of people that are willing to help in making motorcycling as great a joy for you as it is for them. I'm also certain that there is quite possibly a ninjetter nearby that would be willing to help. All else failing you have this site and youtube. If you have the agility to ride a bike then you certainly have what it takes to spray some lube and twist a few screws. Go slow, ask questions, and just enjoy life. It only comes around once. __________________________________________________ 2001 SP1 RC51- #62 -Akrapovic Ti, PCIII, Colin Edward's first baby tooth, Honda Racing sticker, some Japanese doods best attempt at Engrish scribbled on my engine block, little touch of soul.

October 8th, 2011, 09:02 PM	#14
mike ninjette.org member Name: Mike Location: Boulder, CO Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250R Posts: 17	agreed. do it! you wont regret it. you can have your oil and coolant changed professionally pretty cheap if you dont feel comfortable doing it yourself __________________________________________________ It's just really, really cool. You guys, seriously. They make this noise that's like BRAAMM and they go super fast

October 8th, 2011, 11:38 PM	#15
Xoulrath ninjette.org sage Name: T Location: U.S. Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): Current: '11 ZX-6R; Previous: '09 Ninjette; '08 ZX-6R (Ex-Wife '09 TU250X) Posts: 981	Seriously, buy the damn bike. It's totally worth it. __________________________________________________ R.I.P EthioKnight (Alex)

October 8th, 2011, 11:57 PM	#16
setasai ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Brian Location: Detroit, MI Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Green Posts: A lot.	That's almost the same question as "should I upgrade?" In this forum you are going to get pro-motorcycling. What you are feeling is entirely understandable. Not wanting to do any of the maintence is common and many riders have mechanics do it but if you dont think you like riding then I think you know the answer.

October 9th, 2011, 07:20 AM	#17
Lil_Green_Demon Winging It In Life Name: Umar Location: SoCal Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250R; 2011 250R (sold) Posts: A lot.	OP, you obviously can't make up your mind. You started your post off saying you're not sure if you want to get into motorcycle ownership, but towards the end, it seemed as though you changed your mind half-way through and decided that riding a motorcycle would be a good hobby for you. All I have to say about the mechanical aspect of motorcycle ownership is that everything you mentioned, including the spark plugs but excluding the carb work (I guess that would depend on how old the car is), HAS to be done to a car, too. Ya dig? In other words, unless you're willing to pay a dealership/mechanic to do the work for you, you're still going to end up paying for maintenance one way or another, no matter what type of vehicle you purchase. Hell, you'll have to do similar work on a scooter, too! The choice is yours whether you decide to buy a bike or not. All I can add to this is that I initially had never worked on a vehicle myself, but if I can do an oil change and chain lube on my bike, I'm sure anyone can. They're so easy! __________________________________________________ 2011 Kawasaki Ninja 250R (Bought - Apr 22, 2011; Sold - Feb 17, 2015) 2010 Kawasaki Ninja 250R (Bought - May 01, 2017; Current)

October 9th, 2011, 07:51 AM	#18
nealt ninjette.org member Name: Neal Location: Toronto, Ontario Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250 Posts: 56	I will also agree with what everyone else has said about maintenance. Like many things in life, if you have to do it you will learn. If you are looking to ride just because of the image then this may explain the hesitation. If you truly enjoy riding it shouldn't matter what you ride be it bicycle, unicycle or motorbike(any motorbike). Personally I find my bike is a time compressor. A 3 hour drive in the car can feel like forever, yet I can ride all day without a thought as to how long I have been in the saddle. The bike keeps me sane, it's the 180 I need to pull all the stresses out of my head and refocuses my mind. If you truly like being on two wheels, the maintenance aspect is just a part of riding as a whole. One caveat is to make sure your finances can support this (bike, gear, maintenance and insurance) activity. If so go ahead and enjoy...

October 9th, 2011, 03:54 PM	#21
kaiserz There's a limit to s2pdty Name: A.D. Location: NoVa the burg Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 250r ninja (sold) Posts: A lot.	Motorcycling is an expensive hobby. and there are lots of risks that are gonna be involve. I say if you're gonna be halfhearted in getting a motorcycle, just don't, there's always next year or next next year. Also it's still practical to get a car vs a bike. yes a bike is much cheaper on gas, but it needs lots of love and dedication and attention. Also I'm just wondering, do you have health insurance? is this gonna be your first bike? how old are you? cause if it is and you're <25 are you willing to pay 70+ a month on insurance? there are so much risk involve in motorcycling. there's also gear. last year alone I've spent $1k+ on gear alone. are you willing to pay $100+ on maintenance? how bout tires? how about if you get into an accident? IMHO motorcycles are not practical. (but I love em) About something to do, why not try jui jitsu? krav maga? muay thai? anyway good luck

October 9th, 2011, 05:57 PM	#22
cuz cuz Name: Israel Location: Houston (me) Galveston Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 ninja 250r Posts: A lot.	a motorcycle is cheaper OVERALL (next to a car) ,learn something new (oil change, clean chain) on the way too I can say buying this ninja is 1 of my best desisions I ever made. Posted via Mobile Device

October 9th, 2011, 09:55 PM	#23
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	This thread should be called. "Im not sure if Im a man" lol jk jk __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

October 9th, 2011, 10:17 PM	#24
heylookitsfranco ninjette.org member Name: Franco Location: Fairfax, VA Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r, 2006 Ninja 636 Posts: 175	That's exactly the situation my older brother found himself in some years ago. in the end he didn't get the bike, and he's fine with that. I went ahead and got my bike, and I don't regret becoming a motorcyclist one bit. actually, being a biker is one of the FEW things I really and truly don't regret. Way I see things is you're only young and stupid once. At the very least, it'll make for a good story. __________________________________________________

October 9th, 2011, 10:32 PM	#25
Firehorse ninjette.org sage Name: Ms.T, Queen of the Night Location: Ontario, Canada Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250 Posts: 938	Maybe test the water first, get a used bike for less money and use the basic maintenance thing as a way to gain a valuable skill. Being good with your hands, following instructions, organizational skills etc will serve you well in all areas of your life, not just those mechanic-type things. If later you hate the work, service it out, if you hate the lifestyle, sell the bike but live life with no regrets.

October 9th, 2011, 11:41 PM	#26
SteveL old git Name: Steve Location: Geneve Switzerland Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): BMW K1300S Posts: 479	I would say go for it but wait till spring, no point in having a new bike in your garage all winter that you can’t use. Unless you can get a very good deal because it’s the end of the season leave it till next year. Steve __________________________________________________ Some mistakes are too much fun to make only once.

October 10th, 2011, 12:00 AM	#27
Boom King So, where's the reverse? Name: Anson Location: Ontario, Canada Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	Don't try to over think or complicate it. You're making it sound more like a chore than it really is. Other than changing the oil and lubing the chain on occasion, how often do you think you will be changing tires or spark plugs? Checking tire pressure takes a few minutes and takes less time on a motorcycle than it does a car, 2 tires vs. 4. It's good that you're trying to make an thorough decision but if you really want to get a bike, just get one and you'll find that the rest of the stuff, like maintenance, will sort itself out. On the other hand, if you find yourself making excuses/reasons not to get a bike, then it might be sign that it may not be for you. It happens. There's nothing wrong with that either. There will be other opportunities down the line for when and if you feel you're ready. Best of luck.

October 10th, 2011, 12:38 AM	#29
MotoED ninjette.org guru Name: Edd Location: Los Angeles-CALI Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 SE Pearl/Ebony Ninja 250R Posts: 376	I also don't have any experience with the oily bits. I just held the light for pops! Thanks to this forum and all the useful DIY's here I learned a few things... and still learning! But if you don't want to do all that required maintenance on your own, then I'm sure someone will do it for you.... For a fee of course. By the way, this is one, if not, the BEST hobbies I have. It's also healthy for me

October 10th, 2011, 06:25 AM	#30
akima Nooblet Name: Akima Location: England Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R FI Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '13	Before I got my bike, a biker I met told me that I should make sure I buy a bike that I like the look of. His reasoning being that I would have to spend time cleaning it and maintaining it: having a pretty bike makes it a lot easier. I do very little of my own maintenance at present -- just the basics -- but I intend to learn the more complicated stuff over time. I don't feel at all bad taking the bike to a mechanic though. I doubt it costs me much more than doing it myself. If I do it myself I need to buy lots of equipment and I need the space to store it. At present I love the cleaning and maintenance I do on my bike. It's nice to care for my machine! The manual that comes with the Ninjette explains quite clearly how to do things. Also: if you're anything like me, then once you have a taste of riding then you can't turn back. I went from never really acknowledging motorcycles, to dedicating a huge chunk of my waking hours to them! I hope this doesn't change either. I've never done anything which matches the feeling of riding. Some one on this forum said that you can get similar feelings from sky diving. Haven't tried that yet.

October 10th, 2011, 01:56 PM	#32
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	Get it!!!!!!!!!! Peer pressure!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

October 10th, 2011, 02:02 PM	#33
Numbersix ninjette.org member Name: Michael Location: MI Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): Honda Elite 110 (deceased), Green 2012 Ninja 250 (sold on Pi day); Grey/Green 2019 Ninja 400 ABS Posts: 238	I'd hang on for now; last year around February a couple Ninjettes turned up at my local dealership for $2k each. Shortly after the frost cleared they were spoken for and gone. OTOH now is also the time when less than dedicated riders decide that they don't want to bother with storage &/or battery tenders. Initially you'll see high asking prices but patience followed by an offer can net a good deal (and the privilege of looking at the new bike through the snowy times).

October 10th, 2011, 02:18 PM	#35
Heed ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: John Location: Illinois Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): None yet, yet. Posts: A lot.	i think ergonomically the Ninja 250 is my best bet. I'm a pretty small guy and the seat height should be ideal for me. i never sat on a ninja before though so that can all change __________________________________________________ The Rush is Addictive

October 10th, 2011, 02:25 PM	#36
Hopmix ninjette.org member Name: Joel Location: Atlanta GA. Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 11 CBR250R Posts: 99	same height. the point was the maintenance though. Not as frequent as car, but more expensive than car. at least the honda. service manual can be a great investment though.

October 10th, 2011, 05:02 PM	#37
NDspd 1/4 English, 3/4 Kick Ass Name: Jeremy Location: Dayton, OH Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Triumph Speed Triple 955i, '05 Suzuki SV650S(retired), '11 Ninja 250R(sold) Posts: A lot.	Personally, I didn't have a whole lot of experience with the maintenance of a car or a bike. But after just a month or so of reading and working on the bike itself I know a whole lot more. My 250r was my first ever bike and I was kind of scared on getting on it, but as long as you learn fast, and smartly you'll do fine. Be safe.