Why your 600 isn't faster than my 250r

[Nemesis]

Originally Posted by DaBlue1

I did and I have no delusions about the Ninja's capabilities. So, do you believe or are you convinced that the Ninja 250 is more than adequate "on the street" as well?

You're asking the wrong person cuz you're talking to a guy who drives the speed limit and/or just crawl through traffic without a care. In other words, I use said vehicle to get me from point A to point B as carefully as possible. So, I could care less.

On the track....well, that's a different story.

[alex.s]

"more than adequate" is a matter of perspective and oppinion. adequate for what? a 50cc scooter is adequate. a bicycle is adequate. a pair of legs is adequate. a wheel chair is adequate.

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by Nemesis

I use said vehicle to get me from point A to point B as carefully as possible. So, I could care less.

somehow i can't imagine jon going slow... i still imagine him full tuck knee out... going 25mph

[Nemesis]

Originally Posted by alex.s

somehow i can't imagine jon going slow... i still imagine him full tuck knee out... going 25mph

Yes, this is me.

[massacremasses]

[Nemesis]

Originally Posted by alex.s

"more than adequate" is a matter of perspective and oppinion. adequate for what? a 50cc scooter is adequate. a bicycle is adequate. a pair of legs is adequate. a wheel chair is adequate.

Your face in my @$$ in adequate.

[csmith12]

I wish this thread was locked.

[Jinx250]

Originally Posted by Racer x

You can counter the argument that that power gets you out of trouble with the fact that brakes get you out of trouble more often then power. And its usually the power that got you into the trouble in the first place.

I agree, if you need to "power out of" a situation, chances are you made some bad choices leading up to it. There are very very few instances where more power is the answer, but I will concede that they exist, no matter how small the percentage they may be.

[Liist]

It is all agreed upon that the 250 doesn't compare on the straights given experienced riders.

However, my friend is going to get his first bike, which will be a 600. I look forward to embarrassing him in the first couple of weeks.

Besides, 250 is adequate for my street riding purposes and I never felt the need to have more power than I currently have.

[massacremasses]

I already want more power, but Im probably not ready for it, so Im glad I cant afford something bigger right now

but yeah. Embarrassing dudes on 600s who talk **** and dont know how to ride is funny.

[Nemesis]

Originally Posted by massacremasses

but yeah. Embarrassing dudes on 600s who talk **** and dont know how to ride is funny.

Why you gotta call Kevin out like that?

[Kevin2109]

Originally Posted by Nemesis

Why you gotta call Kevin out like that?

[cbdallas]

Here's how I see a 250 beating a 600 in a 0-60 drag race:

A guy who's never ridden a bike runs out and buys a 600 and lines it up on the track. A guy who's put 20,000 miles on his 250 last year is in the other lane. The light turns green, and the guy on the 600 guns it and flips it over backward. The guy on the 250 executes a perfect launch and finishes.

Just because a 600 makes most of its power up high in the powerband doesn't mean it makes NOTHING down low. I've seen way too many 600s rocket away from stoplights to ever think my bike would stand a chance.

I see this phenomenon a lot on car forums too. I know we all love our bikes here on Ninjette.org, but like in the car forums, a Kia Forte Koup is not going to outrun a new Camaro on its best day. Yet there are some guys on the Kia forum that swear they've beaten Camaros, G37s, etc with their cars. Here's a hint for them: The guys driving the other cars didn't know they were in a race.

The horsepower / weight ratios for these bikes speak for themselves - and say a lot more than anyone's butt dyno. 14lbs / hp for the 250, and 3.4 lbs / hp for the 600. There'll have to be some pretty extraordinary circumstances involved for a 250 to pull off a win.

[massacremasses]

I heard Kevin likes to squid it up all day, every day.

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by jaso

Cool, I love a good challenge

Here's the money, where is your video?




And @choneofakind I will pay $100 to see you destroy a Ninja

[jaso]

I've decided to take my statment back on that my ninja 250r will do 0-60 mph in 3.5 seconds. Not because I think I am wrong, but because I could be wrong. I guess technically I should have used a more accurate device than a standard stop watch before making any reply to this post or a by-the-seat-of-your-pants judgment.
Sorry to you all, and I guess I will look into this more for myself with proper equipment.
Could I get some good suggestions on what is the most accurate devies avalible to read a 0-60 mph pull from a dead stop that would be avalible on-line or at local motorcycle shop(s).
Thank's for any suggestions.

[CynicalC]

What is this I don't even

[Malicious Logic]

Originally Posted by jaso

I've decided to take my statment back on that my ninja 250r will do 0-60 mph in 3.5 seconds. Not because I think I am wrong, but because I could be wrong. I guess technically I should have used a more accurate device than a standard stop watch before making any reply to this post or a by-the-seat-of-your-pants judgment.
Sorry to you all, and I guess I will look into this more for myself with proper equipment.
Could I get some good suggestions on what is the most accurate devies avalible to read a 0-60 mph pull from a dead stop that would be avalible on-line or at local motorcycle shop(s).
Thank's for any suggestions.

I'd think a stopwatch would work just fine...assuming you had someone else stopping and starting it. If you're riding for the fastest 0-60 time, I'd assume you'd be more concentrated on your riding than trying to fiddle with the clock.

[massacremasses]

Originally Posted by jaso

I've decided to take my statment back on that my ninja 250r will do 0-60 mph in 3.5 seconds. Not because I think I am wrong, but because I could be wrong. I guess technically I should have used a more accurate device than a standard stop watch before making any reply to this post or a by-the-seat-of-your-pants judgment.
Sorry to you all, and I guess I will look into this more for myself with proper equipment.
Could I get some good suggestions on what is the most accurate devies avalible to read a 0-60 mph pull from a dead stop that would be avalible on-line or at local motorcycle shop(s).
Thank's for any suggestions.

Get what Iran has to literally move at the speed of light.



Im just playing with ya

[jaso]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Here's the money, where is your video?




And @choneofakind I will pay $100 to see you destroy a Ninja

So how do you want your dollar sent to you

[KawiKid860]

Wow imagine how fast he could get to 60 if he wasn't fiddling with a stop watch at the same time, probably like 2.5 seconds instead! INSANE! Seriously somebody show me a ninjette that can hit 60 in even the low 5 second range and I'll be impressed

Edit: I don't know why I even bothered to post..

[choneofakind]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

And @choneofakind I will pay $100 to see you destroy a Ninja

Define destroy?

[alex.s]

jaso, videocamera on the tank viewing the speedo, a GPS next to the speedo showing the speed also (because the onboard speedo is crap), and the view forward. after videotaping yourself from 0mph to 60mph, youll realize "3.5 seconds" is probably closer to "7.5 seconds"
rolling starts never count.

im so tired of these types of threads. its a 250. treat it like one. have fun with its lack of power. ride it like you stole it. you can do it legally on the 250. cant do it on a 600 without winding up going 140mph very quickly. you dont need to be fast to hang, bro. its a great looking, extremely well handling, light and nimble little bike.

a 250 is most definitely not a faster bike in any sense in any situation than a 600SS. (the only exception being a U-turn from a standstill)

noone is talking about rider skill because that has nothing to do with the bike. if you want to say you are better at shifting than some stupid squid trying to race you on a 600 (only a squid would try to race a 250 while on a 600 btw) then great but dont try to say a 250 is faster. its not. 250s are so much faster going INTO a corner because they are so light, you hardly need to brake. you also can dive super deep into corners since there's literally no power out of the corner. you don't need to setup late apexes as much since, again, no power coming out of a corner means your rear doesnt squat as much, meaning you can keep it leaned over longer keeping your speed. riding a 600 and a 250 around corners are two completely different things and you really cant compare them. to say that a 250 is faster because you can dive deeper is pretty ignorant in regard to ... i donno, maybe, the entire rest of the corner/track/road.

[massacremasses]

If someone bashed you for driving a 250, just tell them you've got a tape measure and to whip it out...

I've done this before.

So far no one has taken me up on it. Which is good because I really dont have a tape measure with me....

[alex.s]

just measure back to back justin.

[massacremasses]

Originally Posted by alex.s

just measure back to back justin.

Touche good sir. Touche

[Malicious Logic]

Originally Posted by massacremasses

If someone bashed you for driving a 250, just tell them you've got a tape measure and to whip it out...

I've done this before.

So far no one has taken me up on it. Which is good because I really dont have a tape measure with me....

So did you whip out a tape measure then or....oh.

[choneofakind]

Originally Posted by massacremasses

just tell them you've got a tape measure and to whip it out...

...

So far no one has taken me up on it. Which is good because I really dont have a tape measure with me....

[massacremasses]

Originally Posted by Malicious Logic

So did you whip out a tape measure then or....oh.

Unfortunately no one has taken me up on it.

However... I have pulled my pants off when my roommate in college tried to fight me for showing him meat spin, when it was disguised as a phone trace site. It was awesome.

I pulled my pants off and kept saying "you gonna fight a naked guy?! you gonna fight a naked guy" while making inappropriate movements.. Never fought him.

[choneofakind]

Originally Posted by massacremasses

I pulled my pants off and kept saying "you gonna fight a naked guy?! you gonna fight a naked guy" while making inappropriate movements..

oh keep these coming!! I'm laughing so hard my stomach hurts!!

[alex.s]

@ justin fighting naked.

[Malicious Logic]

Originally Posted by massacremasses

Unfortunately no one has taken me up on it.

However... I have pulled my pants off when my roommate in college tried to fight me for showing him meat spin, when it was disguised as a phone trace site. It was awesome.

I pulled my pants off and kept saying "you gonna fight a naked guy?! you gonna fight a naked guy" while making inappropriate movements.. Never fought him.

[massacremasses]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

oh keep these coming!! I'm laughing so hard my stomach hurts!!

Originally Posted by alex.s

@ justin fighting naked.

Originally Posted by Malicious Logic

I actually found a video of me in a coon skin hat and a towel or something dancing to the mortal combat theme song.... The towel did not stay on long I ran into a room where a bunch of guys were watching a movie and ripped it off and kept dancing until I got kicked out of the room... like actually getting kicked in my naked ass. Id find it again and post it, but there is def some little wiener action in it.

I looked at my time line thing on FB and it seems that I was naked or scantly clad in 2006 a lot...

[alex.s]

remember justin... it was winter... it was cold... things happen when its cold...

[dino74]

All this this thread needs is for someone to ask if they should turn their 250 into a dedicated track bike.

[250rr]

My Ninja can to anything. Anything, I tell you.

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by dino74

all this this thread needs is for someone to ask if they should turn their 250 into a dedicated track bike.

lol tracks are dangerous, son!

[massacremasses]

Originally Posted by alex.s

remember justin... it was winter... it was cold... things happen when its cold...

Those San Diego winters get real chilly

[alex.s]

dude you dont even know. it dropped down to 55F last night... BURRRRR!!!!!!

[massacremasses]

Originally Posted by alex.s

dude you dont even know. it dropped down to 55F last night... BURRRRR!!!!!!

-__-

I scraped ice off my windshield this morning.

That year in the dorms I lived right on the ocean though. like we lived on the cliffs. It was badass.