February 9th, 2012, 02:42 PM | #41 |
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no. I only said wot because they're talking about dropping 2 gears at a time. That's a big difference in rpms. So I usually give it a lot of gas really quick, and drop gears and go. Never had the back step out yet.
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February 9th, 2012, 02:49 PM | #42 |
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if you drop like 10 gears then drop the clutch the rear tire will slip out but it wont lock up.
yes, 10 gears.
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February 9th, 2012, 02:53 PM | #43 |
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oh I miss read that first one. I thought you asked me if I was intentionally trying to do that... derp. You asked what if you were trying to back it in basically right?
I think that's not a beginner thing. hell I haven't even gotten the balls to try that on the ninja. I've had the rear wheel skip and slide a couple times from a little overly-eager downshift, but it's surprised me both times, so I didn't do it again. But my b. I didn't read that right... not starting a fight. |
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February 9th, 2012, 02:55 PM | #44 | |
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February 9th, 2012, 03:47 PM | #46 |
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ahahaha the first time it slides out braking into the corner its a combination of "OH ****" and "**** YEAH!"
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February 9th, 2012, 03:49 PM | #47 |
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I'll be watching for it in the mean time, I need to go watch more youtube videos of the pros doing it
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February 9th, 2012, 05:31 PM | #48 |
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Err, not to be a smart ass but since no one has mentioned this (or I simply missed it). When passing just drop however many gears you need until you hit between 9000-9500 rpm, then just WOT and upshift at 12k? I believe that should be the power band of a stock ninja, no matter how fast you’re going when passing…
Doing this should make passes a lot quicker (thus safer) than just passing in 6th or randomly dropping gears. However, I find that once you get past 100khm the little 250 loses some acceleration and after 120khm passing becomes pretty difficult unless you have a real long straightway, so I wouldn’t even bother most of the time. Blipping might be somewhat like counter steering, most people do it without even realizing, because the bike teaches you sub consciously =D
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February 9th, 2012, 06:00 PM | #50 |
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Ya think Alex? lol
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February 9th, 2012, 06:01 PM | #51 |
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Yeah, sorry about that XD
But the threads only a day or two old and although there’s plenty of good advice it all seemed to revolve around shifting down one or two gears; so I figured some more general advice might be helpful…
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February 9th, 2012, 06:13 PM | #52 |
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And I thank you as I started the post and there were only a couple of post that answered my question, and yours was one of them, Thank you.
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February 9th, 2012, 07:52 PM | #53 |
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I drop 2-3 gears (500 has slightly longer gearing so 3rd takes it to 80) and usually let off around 105-110.... well that was err before my ticket... :P
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February 11th, 2012, 09:45 AM | #54 | ||||
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That to me means safe and sensible riding. I wouldn't take a stupid risk or intentionally slide a car in traffic nor would I do it on a bike in traffic. Or a tank. Yes the yank would be fun to try to slide on ice but I still think non-squiddy traffic rules apply to anything on the road. Call me old fashioned but call me ticket free and alive in 20 years too. Quote:
I do the same. Works like a charm, never had any passing issues but I will practice going down to 5th and hoping back into the power band. Just need a good place around here to go that fast. Sounds fun. Quote:
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February 11th, 2012, 09:53 AM | #55 |
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@Firehorse that's cool man...I had to drop down 2 gears yesterday after having to pass a school bus, damn thing was going 40 in a 55 speed limit zone.
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February 11th, 2012, 11:55 AM | #57 |
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Hey Firehorse, no tickets??? I think you told me you don't drive a car did ya not?? lol
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February 11th, 2012, 12:32 PM | #58 | |||
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Only time I talked to a cop on the road so far was to pull into a crowd of parked city/OPP and ask them what the rules are wrt getting stuck at lights on sensor. They were all very nice. As for my learning car driving, it finally snowed so I need to find a parking lot to learn how to control a skid - read DOING DONUTS!! Wheeee!!! Normal cars kinda suck. Very boring. Hey, Jay, did you get that Rossi on the back brake vid? |
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February 11th, 2012, 12:38 PM | #59 |
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i think i misquoted but what i said still stands. from my experience driving a bike like a car (with the flow of traffic, trying to have people respect your right of way, assuming they can see you and wont plow into you randomly) is very dangerous
i speed to get away from cars. on the highway i will wot until i find a gap and chill in the gap until people come up behind me or slow down too much and the gap isnt a gap anymore. when they get within maybe 100 or 2 feet ill pick up the pace and find another gap. i dont slowly pass people because i hate being near them. the less time you are near them the less time they have to kill you. thats not to say pass them at 100mph wot a few feet away from them when there are 3 other lanes. but i definitely try to pass with at least a 15 mph difference
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February 11th, 2012, 01:25 PM | #60 | |
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No one is saying to drive/ride the vehicle using the same physical rules. I think we should use the same safety/common sense rules. The physical presence and mechanical abilities of the two vehicles are different so the rules I follow would be adapted to the vehicle or conditions or situation that I was using. BUT i would still use the same rules for things like passing because common sense dictates what a safe pass is for a given vehicle. Your posts are emphasizing that we kind of agree. NO ONE IS SAYING THAT WE SHOULD DRIVE THE TWO VEHICLES THE SAME WAY. Sorry for yelling but if we're going to keep going around in circles we should at least get a knee down... And one more thing - no one should ever slowly pass another vehicle because it causes a person to hang in the blind spot too long. I like the phrase "overtake' instead of pass. It make what you said nice and clear. Remember that MSF thing about always keeping a cushion around you? Mmm, good advice. I rather slow down and be car-free than pass people to end up in a 'death-box' on the other hand if I need to shoot ahead to get clear air, I would. Chill in the gap. Nice turn of phrase. |
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February 11th, 2012, 01:27 PM | #61 |
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Alex is just trying to say hes a pussy
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February 11th, 2012, 01:37 PM | #62 |
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Then I'd rather ride with him than a squid. If being safe is...pussy???, bring 'em on.
And didn't guys like you spend your entire life trying to find pussy? You guys have to make up your mind whether insulting slang for women's body parts is good or bad. LOL! Why do men use 'pussy' as a reference to scared or cowardly? Are they afraid to use current english of afraid to call another man a coward?? Just askin' |
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February 11th, 2012, 01:39 PM | #63 |
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Someone needs a snickers, geez
Its a joke, Alex and I are good friends, I'm just messing around
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February 11th, 2012, 01:44 PM | #64 |
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No worries
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February 11th, 2012, 02:18 PM | #66 |
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OUCH...I think Kevin just took a bit of a tongue lashing (via keyboard) lol
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February 11th, 2012, 02:20 PM | #67 |
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Maybe he likes it.
Heehee. We hugged and made up, see above, I'm the one in pink. And I hate pink but I'll wear it for the photo. |
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Downshifting on a curve has a caveat: keep the rpm's correct (higher than in upper gear) to accept the lower gear. The sudden resistance to rolling, may make the rear tire skid sideways, unless you clutch-out slowly enough to harmonize rpm's. The math is simple: downshifting trades wheel speed by added torque on the wheel in the following ratio 12% from 6 to 5 gear, 16% from 5 to 4 and 21% from 4 to 3. Unless the engine's rpm's are intentionally increased, the inertia will make the rear wheel slowdown (while trying to speed up the engine). |
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February 11th, 2012, 04:28 PM | #69 |
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@Firehorse AHHH...I'm sorry madam...it's so hard to tell on internet forums.
As for the bus, they weren't dropping any of them off, but yeah I was making sure it was quite clear and "safe" before I did any moves. |
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February 11th, 2012, 04:55 PM | #70 |
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AHAHA. just don't start trolling hookers again.
offset vagina. haha. classic.
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February 11th, 2012, 07:57 PM | #71 | |
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Yes it's hard to tell about these things on forums. One guy here usually wears a skirt but acts macho to cover it. I just try to sound much like everyone else but sometimes I get girly, then my cover is blown. You ever look up at the school bus windows when you pass? It's quite funny, all those tiny faces with their eyes bulged out like you're ghost rider. Lol! |
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February 11th, 2012, 08:39 PM | #74 |
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You should give them the finger and see what happens lol
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February 11th, 2012, 08:42 PM | #75 |
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nick you're a terrible person
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I'm not a terrible person...I just thought of it. Imagine your riding, and the kids see you while they're in the bus. They're waving, and smiling from being excited! Then they see you giving them the finger. I can't imagine how hilarious that would be. Then you get distracted, and ride under the bus
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And that's an example of what kind of behavior will get us killed. Very funny but don't do it in person. If a biker did that and I was the bus driver, I'd flip that metal sign open... Thwack! Oops, didn't see you. You wouldn't do that for real would you? I think I need to spend more time here so I know when you guys are just being smarta$$es and when you're serious. |
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I was joking! I wouldn't do that!
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@ Inappropriate but hilarious name
I thought the same thing. Some random person, staring. Then give them the finger, it would also be hilarious.
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