June 28th, 2012, 04:10 PM | #1 |
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Police pull over biker to confiscate camera to use against others; makes up charge
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June 28th, 2012, 04:53 PM | #2 |
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wow thats nuts. It looks like he expected the guy to just give up the camera and when he refused the cop didnt know what to do and got aggressive. Shoving the guy down on the hood and then slamming the door on him like that was ridiculous. I really hope that deputy lost his job. The stupid smirk on the second cops face made me want to reach through my computer and knock his teeth out.
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June 28th, 2012, 05:24 PM | #3 |
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Wooooow, I felt real, legitimate anger watching that video. I feel that police officer was way out of line.
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June 28th, 2012, 05:37 PM | #4 |
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A part of me always wishes it happened to me when I see videos like this. But only when I'm not speeding or anything And I'd have to have a gopro or something on or noone would believe me
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June 28th, 2012, 05:54 PM | #6 |
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It looks like he slammed the door on a part of the guy. If an officer of the law treated me this way, I would spend every chance I could fighting it.
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June 28th, 2012, 05:59 PM | #7 |
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June 28th, 2012, 06:16 PM | #8 |
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there is a dash cam video of the cops chasing these guys. Its a good video to watch as well because it kind of gives you the big picture. What happens here isnt ok but the other video gives you some context.
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i think it was handled wrong on both ends.
the cop was too aggressive with a non crime and was a dick. the guy did not use his time wisely, and talked too much. just call your lawyer, and remain cool. after all you didn't do anything wrong. karma has a funny way about dealing with douche bags. |
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June 28th, 2012, 07:07 PM | #10 |
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Had nothing to do with the rider they pulled over though. That's like holding him accountable for what the other riders did exactly one year earlier. Legally, it's no different than pulling me over if I rode through tomorrow just because some other bikers broke the law on Memorial Day.
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I never said how they treated him was ok. Just giving context. If you dont want to acknowledge multiple sides of the story so be it.
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That the cops were out of line? (read my first post) Im not making excuses for them, there really isnt any. However I was giving context. I dont ride with stupid assholes, perhaps he wont either now.
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He does not ride with "them." He rode AT THE SAME TIME as them. It was a public event. Not a "group." Everyone in the entire metro area knew that Memorial Day was bike day. It was exactly like pulling someone over who had nothing to do with another biker at Daytona Bike Week just because he had a camera among THOUSANDS of bikes. Got it? It's very likely that he did not know a single other biker on the road. Here in GA, I don't. If I commuted to work that day (I did work Memorial Day) and I lived in Dallas and I wore my camera, that could have been me. This is WAY beyond "guilt by associateion" because there is no association. Get it now? Need another example? Freaknik. Mardi Gras. Spring Break at Panama City Beach. A rock concert. Are you a troublemaker just because you attended the same event as other people and some broke the law? |
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The problem is that whether the association was real or just perceived, it still led to a bunch of pissed off cops itching to ruin someone's day. His ticket was punched, and he was running an illegal plate. Cop was a mouth-breathing fool, but it was a a completely avoidable situation by the camera bike.
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June 28th, 2012, 08:48 PM | #19 | |
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*facepalm* You said that the behavoir of unrelated people put it in perspective. That is RIDICULOUS and wrong. You said that he "rode with them" instead of riding at the same time as them. That is also wrong: He was no more with him than I am with you when we both coincidentally decide on our own to go to the same movie premier "for fun." I am the LAST person to misrepresent a police encounter to make them look bad but I also avoid jumping to conclusions about them "riding together," especially when the whole story is right there. |
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I dunno. I tend to agree with Justin. The fact that there were dozens of nitwits on bikes in the immediate area, riding in the same event, provoking the police and generally ensuring that something like this (and likely many other unfilmed things like this) would be a foregone conclusion. Here is that dashcam video:
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June 28th, 2012, 08:58 PM | #21 |
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Haha, have to wonder what they were handing the guy that rode up.
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[DEVILS ADVOCATE] All of these bikers are a bunch of ****ing assholes. They closed down highways and block traffic so they can stunt. Emergency vehicles could have been stuck in there. People on the way to hospitals could have died so these pricks could stunt on an open highway. They are dipshit assholes, every last one of them and they need to be tracked down and punished.[/DEVILS ADVODATE]
Cop was a moron
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I hear what you're saying, but I think you're still missing the point, if the goal is to figure out how not to be that guy being dealt with harshly by a less than brilliant deputy.
A: Avoid riding in large groups when it's foreseeable that a good portion of them will be flaunting the law B: If you do choose to do so, make sure your equipment is legal. Running an illegal plate location, running illegal blinkers, and any of the other small but common mods to sportbikes are clear invitations to be pulled from the herd, and made to answer for the perceived larger offenses of others. Happens weekend after weekend here in northern california near the high-trafficked motorcycle hangouts. (I.E. - don't hang out at 4-corners mid-day on a Saturday or Sunday on a clearly illegal bike.) For what it's worth, it's something that sometimes has to happen to you first before it sinks in, and I got the same ticket at that same high traffic area at the bottom of 9 when I had a moderately illegal plate mount on the ZX-10R. Not acting like a douche to the admittedly douchey cop kept it as a $25 fix-it ticket instead of an arrest, but the lesson stuck anyway. It's just easier to stay legal. (Or if you aren't going to, stay the heck out of the limelight. I.E. a biker event with thousands of bikes and dozens of law enforcement vehicles)
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They cops should have blocked off the thru way and arrested every person in the dash cam video. The one who was sticking his breaks on the cops and taking contraband from the truck passengers should have been run off the road by the cop . He deserves to be street pizza
And the guy with the helmet cam should have shut up and shown some respect, if you happen to be walking down the side walk while a riot it's going on around you - expect that you will get arrested with the rioters . Also don't get cocky and throw the cops pease signs and other crap . If they want to confiscate your camera tell them you will be happy to cooperate as soon as you are given the proper paper work signed and dated so that you can retrieve said camera from evidence. Don't tell an officer of the law that he is wrong and don't tell him it's bs - the bikers treating the law with disregard is the bs and he should have been occomodating the law. All that said - the cop got heated and lost his cool. If you are in a position of authority you have to lead by example . Slamming a door on some one is never acceptable. |
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I think it's about priorities.
When you wake up in the morning, do you say to yourself "today I'm going to defend the constitution", or "today I'm not going to do something dumb to get myself arrested"? Those concepts aren't necessarily at odds with eachother. The more thoughtful bear can accomplish the second while also accomplishing the first. Those with unlimited time on their hands might be able to focus on the first without worrying about the consequences of the second.
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They both acted poorly. The bike guy should've stayed calm and deal with it later since they have nothing on him besides the licence plate.
Cop is a loser and there's no need for any explaining why. Why make stupid hand gestures to the cop while being pulled over? Does that make you cool or change cop's decision to pull him over? No. It makes the idiot cop have one more reason to ruin your day. They are human after all and far from perfect. Doesn't make his actions toward a civilian right, but explains it a bit. Anyway... I hate cops sometimes but 99% of videos I watch are all avoidable. |
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Just watched the dash cam. LOL.
If I was pulled over and had nothing to do with all those riders, I'd be like "here's the camera officer. F@CK those idiots." If there's anything I hate more than low self esteem cops, it's squids like those thinking they are too tough to obey the law. |
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Shame on cops that lie to get what they really want (in this case video). I think it would have turned out much different if the COP had said something to the effect: "Sorry to have to pull you over, but we have a report of a possible drug handoff we are investigating, and we think you may have the perp's license tag on your camera." Dunno about you guys, but I would have shared my video. But... the cop had to be a dick and make up a bogus charge of obstructed license tag. You know COP stands for Constable On Patrol, which used to mean a foot cop. But lately the cops ride around in their cars with the windows up completely out of touch with the community. It's no wonder that they are not liked in many areas.
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I do not agree with how the bikers were behaving. I understand the police officers who were trying to keep the public safe's frustration. I just don't agree with their solution.
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Hey I don't like the way our country is becoming less free each day. This guy in the video was trying to be part of the problem. I believe in freedom and see that camera being taken as unlawful search and seizure . But unless you are 100% blemish free don't screw with cops cause they can nit pick you straight to jail literally. Do you think that crazy church protesting military funerals would say the same thing as you? Freedom and we are not breaking any laws? Yet what they are doing is obviously wrong . The guy behaved wrong... So they used the law to get him with a loop hole I don't think what happened was right either way . Two people making bad choices on a hot day. How are police supposed to do their job when there is no accountability and people are acting like anarchists |
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Sorry, the dash cam vid do not offer any context pertaining to the guy getting pulled over for HIS own actions.
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