March 22nd, 2013, 02:07 PM | #1 |
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Ninja 300 Break-In Procedure
According to the Owners Manual you are not to exceed 4,000 RPM in the first 500 miles (this is all of 36 mph in 6th) and 6,000 RPM (about 54 mph in 6th gear) for the next 500 miles.
The manual also indicates this is seriously necessary. This sort of break-in seems next to impossible to make happen in that it seems unbelievably unrealistic. Comments and opinions on break-in? |
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March 22nd, 2013, 02:16 PM | #2 |
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a debate as old as time its self
do some searches, check out various break in methods and choose the one that makes the most sense in your head. And if something goes wrong with the bike take it back to dealer and always claim you followed their proceedure |
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March 22nd, 2013, 02:22 PM | #3 |
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I did a hard break in and my bike is fine.
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March 22nd, 2013, 02:35 PM | #4 |
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hard break in, don't be a bitch.
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March 22nd, 2013, 03:22 PM | #5 |
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Every time you feel the need to discuss "break in procedures", change your oil. Your bike will last a long time.
Seriously. I think your bike will be fine. Seriously.
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March 22nd, 2013, 03:37 PM | #6 |
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there are various different parts of the bike that "break-in". brakes for example are one item that take about 100 miles until they are really fully bedded in. when talking about the engine itself, what is breaking in is; each cylinder is honed with a cross hatch pattern that effectively makes the cylinder one big file. as the engine breaks in, the cross hatch file pattern scrapes away part of the piston rings. the piston rings and cylinder wall eventually smooth out from running, and after they are smooth, the cylinders will take full compression. what most people seem to miss is that 95% of this occurs in the first 15 or 20 minutes of the engine running. the bike is ran for a minimum 2-3 miles at the kawasaki factory. which means the engine is already almost entirely broken in by the factory. after that its only relatively minor things breaking in like brakes and clutch
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March 22nd, 2013, 03:53 PM | #7 |
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That's incorrect, you are not supposed to let the revs go under 6000rpm, see this video for proper procedure
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March 22nd, 2013, 05:08 PM | #8 |
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March 22nd, 2013, 06:40 PM | #10 |
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Turn key, press start, kick stand up, in gear, and go.
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March 23rd, 2013, 12:39 AM | #11 |
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The first like 400 miles of all three of my bikes was at the track
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March 23rd, 2013, 01:49 AM | #12 |
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March 23rd, 2013, 06:51 AM | #13 |
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March 23rd, 2013, 05:13 PM | #14 |
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no, its not necessary at all. Its only necessary for them to cover their own asses in case something happens.
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April 4th, 2013, 01:47 AM | #15 |
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I was a chump and followed it -
rode very gingerly and had some very lesiurely rides. however it's just as important to know how to ride gingerly as it is to haul ass. |
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April 4th, 2013, 05:50 AM | #16 |
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+1 to your patience...
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May 7th, 2013, 02:52 AM | #17 |
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You may as well read the most-often cited reference for running the hell out of your motor doing break-in:
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm It's scientific; it has pictures, and stuff. |
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May 7th, 2013, 05:42 AM | #18 |
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ride it like its hot.
ETA unless you're a noob, then take it easy.
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May 7th, 2013, 10:46 AM | #19 |
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I tried to break my bike in for like the first 5-10 miles, then Rode it normal.
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May 7th, 2013, 11:58 AM | #20 |
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Yah, I think if you were to try and follow the Kawi procedure to the letter you would have a full season of "no real riding" and be run over by the prevailing traffic. I turned to a self mandated hybrid break-in procedure developed by the need for speed, the siren song of high rpm's and the complete loss of patience...............
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May 7th, 2013, 01:24 PM | #21 |
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I kept it under 6k for a few minutes letting it engine break about 10 times maybe, then just rode the durn thing... Not one problem. I agree with ya on the book answer ain't no fun, and could be dangerous if ya don't have a place to ride it all those miles at horribly low rpms
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May 17th, 2013, 08:03 AM | #22 |
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Hi guys, I'm picking up my new 300 tomorrow (I'll start a new thread once I have it) and the bike I'm getting will have almost 80 miles already on the clock. Is there any point trying to do the motoman break in? Or am I already past that point? Also, if I do, how soon should I change the oil and filter? Cheers!!!
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May 19th, 2013, 01:40 AM | #23 |
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If I recall correctly Kawasaki has these guidelines for ALL their bikes, at the same RPMs, regardless of engine size -- which is why it sounds so silly for the 250/300.
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Edit: If you normally red line a lot, change it now. |
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May 20th, 2013, 10:27 AM | #25 |
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I'm surrounded by hills in Berkeley so keeping an upper RPM limit of 4k is quite impractical. In fact, keeping it that low in my surroundings will seriously bog down the engine and cause more wear and tear.
So, I've been quite liberal with the RPM but make it a point to not redline or go beyond, say, 6.5k or 7k. Other than that I basically shift through all the gears to vary the RPM and call it a day. We'll see in a few hundred miles how things go at the break-in service. |
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June 1st, 2013, 09:10 PM | #27 |
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I just got mine and was wondering if I should follow the manual. I don't think I am going to be able to keep it under 4k RPMs for 500 miles though. I was itching to rev it up higher than that my whole first ride. Ill probably just do it for 10-20 miles then start riding normally...not sure if thats a good idea or not.
Is changing the oil before 200 miles really needed? |
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June 1st, 2013, 10:45 PM | #28 |
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Why doesn't anyone watch the damn video?
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June 2nd, 2013, 08:50 AM | #29 |
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June 2nd, 2013, 09:06 AM | #30 |
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Here's what I did with my zero-miles GSXR. It's in reasonable agreement with motorman and is easy to do:
http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/NewBike.html YES YOU DO NEED TO CHANGE YOUR OIL RIGHT AWAY. My ride home from the dealer was about 80 miles. I immediately changed the oil and you could SEE the metal flakes in it. It looked pearly. If you've already gone past that critical first 70-80 miles, then Elvis has left the building. Just change your oil to get the initial metal shavings out, ride it normally, don't lug the engine, and don't bang it against the rev limiter either. "Babying" it as the manual tells you to is not necessary.
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And thanks to the member who published the list of compatible filters I was definitely helped by that. Lastly, screw the tech at the Kawasaki factory who installs oil filters with an air impact wrench. I should have saved pictures of what our two filters looked like once I got them off. If ammo weren't so expensive right now, I'd have shot both of them full of .45 caliber holes. |
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June 30th, 2013, 08:42 PM | #33 |
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has anybody not had a problem unscrewing the factory oil filter? had to hammer it with a screwdriver.
I did a hard break in. I picked up my new ninja 300 this sat. Drove all the way to Santa Monica to the beach and back home, total of 70 miles. I varied rpms mostly in the 3-5k, but a few times went up to 6-7k and I got a little over 10k. Changed oil+filter (KN 303) today and it was full of big metal specks. I think I will change oil around 600 miles and then switch to synthetic (the renown walmart Rotella T6) |
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July 2nd, 2013, 06:21 AM | #35 |
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I've never 'broken in' any new vehicle I've ever bought - car or motorcycle.
I change the oil after the first 200-300 miles and again before 1000. That's pretty much my break in. I've asked two head mechanics, at the local Kawasaki and Suzuki dealerships, if they have ever seen a mechanical breakdown or long term damage from not breaking in a bike. Neither could recall a single issue directly related to not breaking in. Until I get burned by it, I ignore the break in and just ride it - relaxed on my commute, spirited on my weekend mountain rides. |
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July 9th, 2013, 12:12 PM | #37 |
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Love it.. Lol @ Pro Tip - " Do Illegal **** "
Break it in like you are going to ride it. Hard and fast. And remember kids, passing zones on rural 2 lanes are for Buick's overtaking tractor trailers. |
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