May 4th, 2013, 05:26 PM | #1 |
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CBR500R
Picked up my CBR500R ABS today! Was deciding between the 300 and the CBR500R, but comparing the prices of 300 ABS to a CBR500R ABS and the specs, it's a no brainer. I'm still keeping the 250 to blast around on the track. The CBR will be my new daily commuter. I believe in the US, ABS is only available in red. I wanted the white HRC tri-color, but it didn't have ABS.
Positives: The ride home from the dealer, I am doing motoman's break in method, yes this thing definitely has torque! I took some back roads home and I think this bike can definitely hold it's own in the twisties. It's going to make a great daily commuter and weekend warrior. I love the looks, subjective of course, but it really does look better in person than in those brochure photoshoots. It just looks simpler than the ninja 300, which has IMO too much going on. My insurance is like only $5 more than what I'm paying for the 250, so that's awesome too. Gripes so far: The stock rearsets, I am so used to the more aggressive position on my modded 250 that everything felt strange. I can't wait for them to come out with clip-ons and rearsets. The stock exhaust, it's super quiet, large, and ugly. Will definitely get a slip-on or full system. Can't wait for the mods to start coming out for this bike. Now for the pics:
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May 4th, 2013, 05:30 PM | #2 |
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Looks good! I really like the new Honda 500s! How does it compare to the 250? I'v been thinking about purchasing one, but I'm worried the power upgrade won't be enough.
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May 4th, 2013, 06:06 PM | #3 |
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Looks good! Those rear sets look like they could be pricy to replace though. I've never seen a set like that in such a large piece.
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May 4th, 2013, 06:11 PM | #4 |
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Congratz on the new bike!!!
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May 4th, 2013, 08:02 PM | #5 |
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Great looking bike. Take pix and post them up when you start modding. What size rear tire is that on the CBR? 150 or 160?
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May 4th, 2013, 08:11 PM | #6 |
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Congrats on the new bike! I don't think the exhaust is too big but I just don't like the chrome.
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May 4th, 2013, 09:14 PM | #7 | |
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@gt_turbo Awesome!!! It's a shame the HRC tri-color is not offered with the ABS. I would have to have the HRC scheme. It looks so good! But I think the red and black looks pretty nice as well. Can't wait to hear more about how it compares to the 250 after you've owned it for a little while.
You thinking of a CBR600RR front end swap on this one!?! I bet it would be less difficult than the 250 swap. Quote:
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May 4th, 2013, 11:42 PM | #8 |
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Love these... A lot a lot! The only problem is they're honda, and they're so narrow.It makes me feel almost claustrophobic every time I sit on a honda. But that may be easy to get over once you ride it for a day.
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May 5th, 2013, 12:23 AM | #9 |
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Congrats on the 500r! I have been seriously considering a black one as my next upgrade. Let us know your thoughts on the power difference between the 500 and 250 once you get to know the bike.
How's the seat? Comfy? And does it seem taller than the 250? Thanks Ride safe, bud! |
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May 5th, 2013, 02:46 AM | #10 |
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congrats on the 500r ! but i think the 250 looks better
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May 5th, 2013, 04:10 AM | #11 |
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By the looks of the stock clip-ons it almost looks like you can move them below the triple.
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May 5th, 2013, 04:55 AM | #12 |
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O yea, on paper it is like half inch taller seat height than the 250. But due to the seat being narrower than the 250, I don't even feel a difference. I can get the balls of my feet down on both bikes. My modded 250 sits a little higher than stock. Quote:
Another thing I do miss compared to the 250, Honda did not put a cat in the gas tank. My 250 was mewing at me as I was moving the bikes around the garage.
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May 5th, 2013, 07:06 AM | #14 |
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I'll post pics of mods, but it might be a while before they hit the market. The rear is 160 iirc. I really like the wheels on this bike too.
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May 5th, 2013, 04:36 PM | #15 |
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Wanna race? 500 vs 500 lets go! I do like these new honda 500s, it's a very Honda design, I can see bits of CBR and VFR in it! Would be a hard choice for me between this and the 300 if I had cash for a new bike and needed to replace my current 500.
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May 6th, 2013, 04:37 AM | #16 |
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lol. i know you got me in the HP department. i wish kawi would have redesigned and released the 300 as a 500 and then just added fuel injection to the old 250. now the price of the 300 is too close to Honda's 500. and yea I definitely see resemblance to the CBR1000RR.
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May 6th, 2013, 06:05 AM | #17 |
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I sat on the 500s at COTA and really liked the naked version. Would be a really great all around commuter, fun, small bike. Looking forward to seeing the mods come in on this one.
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May 6th, 2013, 07:08 AM | #18 |
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Nice looking bikes
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May 6th, 2013, 07:20 AM | #19 |
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Nice!
What's the redline on that thing? I believe the EJC are racing these bikes. They looked super fast in the race vid but not sure just how fast.
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May 6th, 2013, 04:27 PM | #20 | |
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i want those rearsets, exhaust, clip-ons... just gimme everything. i want those rearsets, exhaust, clip-ons... just gimme everything on top.
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May 6th, 2013, 09:42 PM | #21 |
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8.5k? wow, what does that feel like compared to the 250? that's like me car lol
also, what's it like on the freeway?
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May 6th, 2013, 09:51 PM | #22 |
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I'm sure there'll be good weight savings just with the exhaust and rearsets...
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May 6th, 2013, 11:19 PM | #23 |
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Congrats on the new bike!! I didn't get the chance to even see one of these in person but I'll admit, your pictures did make it a tiny bit more attractive than the terrible stock pictures from Honda. Must be the sexy red
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May 7th, 2013, 06:20 AM | #24 |
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This motor is built for torque, not high revving like the ninjette. I was skeptical to, thinking I'd be missing out on the high rev fun. But the torque makes this bike move quickly very easily and still very exciting.
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May 7th, 2013, 09:53 AM | #25 |
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I haven't found any dyno sheets from full exhaust manufacturers. I'm curious to see if their intent was to keep the torquey character of the 500 or if they wanted to improve the top end and make it more revvy, like the ninjette.
I also wonder how it responds to ignition advancing, etc. |
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May 7th, 2013, 10:12 AM | #26 |
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The guy that works in the shop below my office suite just brought one, I chatted with him for a bit about it, he upgraded from a Honda 125CBF and he's loving it.
Seeing it parked next to my bike, it looks a lot bigger, the engine looks massive in it, very easily mistaken for a 600, infact before I realised it was a 500 I thought "A 600 with only one front disc?!" very nice bike in the flesh, pictures don't quite do them justice. |
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May 7th, 2013, 12:44 PM | #27 | |
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May 7th, 2013, 12:50 PM | #28 |
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Wow even in stock form, that's one smooth power/torque curve. Great find. I want to know what Tyga did to that bike. I feel like they could have gotten more than 1 tq and 1 hp.
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May 7th, 2013, 12:56 PM | #29 |
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Stock exhausts now days are very good, being a brand new bike, the typical belief that the exhaust restricts the system isn't nearly as true as it was ten years ago, so the performance gains aren't as pronounced.
It looks like they just put a magot slip-on on it, it's nice they got a linear performance increase with it, no dips, but it goes to show how well tuned the exhaust system is on this bike from the factory. I have a feeling that the key to performance gains on this bike would be a better fuel map, iron it out for performance rather than reducing emissions which they tend to be programmed more for nowadays. EDIT: If Tyga are boasting such modest gains from the 500, it gives more credit to their questionable stated gains with their full system on the Ninja 250r. |
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May 7th, 2013, 12:59 PM | #30 |
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What's the price difference between the 300 and 500 with abs?
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May 7th, 2013, 01:09 PM | #32 |
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^^ I was wondering about the system vs the fuel map. I looks to me like it's only a slip-on and I doubt they changed the fueling at all.
But I have to disagree with you a little. I'll agree that the fueling makes a huge difference and that stock exhausts have some a lot way. But you're going to get better gains every time with an aftermarket full exhaust system over a stock system, assuming you adjust the fuel curve on both of them. |
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May 7th, 2013, 04:15 PM | #33 |
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MSRP for a 300 ABS is $5500
MSRP for a 500 ABS is $6500 according to the 300 price thread it appears 7 out 15 ppl with 300 ABS paid between $6300-$6700 OTD. I paid $6900 for my 500 OTD. I've seen most ppl on the 500 forums reporting about $7200-$7500.
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May 7th, 2013, 04:49 PM | #34 |
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There's also the CB500F that I'm considering, with ABS I was quoted $6,700 OTD by my local dealer.
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May 29th, 2013, 12:09 PM | #35 |
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Do people hate the sv650s or something? I'd say they blow the cbr500 out of the water for what they're valued at on the used market these days. I picked a 2010 ABS model sv650 for $5900 in Canada with mods... In the states they probably go for a least a $1000 cheaper.
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May 29th, 2013, 12:14 PM | #36 |
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Suzuki hasn't sold a new SV650 in the US since 2008, so the very newest used examples are already pushing 5 years old. The Gladius, which replaced it for a year or two, didn't have nearly the same fanbase.
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Have to say the pictures really do not do it justice at all, looks absolutely the business in person. No-nonsense practical modern naked bike like. I like Bit disappointed in the exhaust though, sounded almost like a car. I guess it makes sense for the general styling of the bike, and the point is of course highly subjective... |
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May 29th, 2013, 04:07 PM | #38 | |
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May 30th, 2013, 05:00 PM | #39 |
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I recently saw a CBR500R next to Ninja300 the other day in my local dealer. I gotta say, in pictures I like the 500R better, but in person I dig the 300. The 500R just does nothing for me
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May 31st, 2013, 12:24 PM | #40 |
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Yeah, me, too, when I saw both the R and the F live at the dealer, I was like "meh". Then I said what the heck, for $5500+ why not. And I'm still hooked Ok gotta go for a ride now.
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