Most Challenging/Fun Corners

csmith12 · August 24th, 2013, 11:58 AM

After tainting another thread with chatter about different corners and the challenges they pose, I figured it deserved its own thread. So if you have a particular corner that is very challenging or fun, post it up! It would be awesome to include a pic and/or video of the road. If possible in your video, post from just before turn in to exit so we get the full effect. It’s ok to include track corners too.

We can start this off with CycleCam303’s pic of an off camber uphill switchback with a steep grade change at apex.

I have a challenging one in mind that I will add when I can get some pics/video.

csmith12 · August 26th, 2013, 11:01 AM

Here is one of mine, it's fast, downhill entrance in both directions with the northbound exit leading into a fast chicane and the southbound exit with wildly changing camber. Sooo much fun!

csmith12 · August 26th, 2013, 11:12 AM

So the current question is; As seen in the 4th pic, how would you deal with such abrupt camber change? I know what I do but interested in others point of view.

BRad704 · August 26th, 2013, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

So the current question is; As seen in the 4th pic, how would you deal with such abrupt camber change? I know what I do but interested in others point of view.

Late turn-in, so that you are able to get the bike turned for the exit before getting into that dip, and also so that the camber change isn't until after you are fully committed with corner speed/lean.

csmith12 · August 26th, 2013, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRad704

Late turn-in, so that you are able to get the bike turned for the exit before getting into that dip, and also so that the camber change isn't until after you are fully committed with corner speed/lean.

Excellent!

To turn in early here would lead to a possible steering correction right around the point of camber change. Not good

subxero · August 26th, 2013, 01:03 PM

No vid or pic, but there is a turn I take almost everyday to work that gets to me a bit in the down hill direction. On my way to work it is up hill right hander and barely a curve at all and I can blast it all day long. On the way back it is down hill off camber left hander with the road cresting just before apex and the road also with a downward angle towards the outside. For such a small curve it is goofy and I take it cautiously in the down hill direction.

Maybe I can snag a pic on my way home today.

NevadaWolf · August 26th, 2013, 01:15 PM

This is one of my favorite series of turns, located on the truck route going to Virginia City. Always have an easier time going up than coming down for some reason. The contour lines are 40ft apart to help see the elevation gain.

And the somewhat best view from Google I can get. Looking south.

BRad704 · August 26th, 2013, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

Excellent!

To turn in early here would lead to a possible steering correction right around the point of camber change. Not good

I feel like I just got a gold star on my homework!

subxero · August 26th, 2013, 07:07 PM

Here is pic of that curve i was talking about. It is not the most fun or most challening and again it is not much of a curve but all the angles of it add up and it is goofy in this direction and difficult for what it is.

csmith12 · August 26th, 2013, 07:20 PM

@BRad704 -

@NevadaWolf -

@subxero - So the bottom drops out of it Joe? Is that what I see in the pic?

subxero · August 26th, 2013, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

@BRad704 -

@NevadaWolf -

@subxero - So the bottom drops out of it Joe? Is that what I see in the pic?

Yep and the road also angles down to the outside right, the turn also gives a very narrow feeling, kind of hard to explain.

alex.s · August 26th, 2013, 07:47 PM

i give you... turn 9 -- aka "Crash mountain" @ CVR. a small uphill right hander leads into a cresting off camber hard left followed by a steep downhill chicane into the the hard right into the back straight.

Link to original page on YouTube.

and here is a video of me crashing on this turn!

Link to original page on YouTube.

here's a crash going the other way:

Link to original page on YouTube.

BRad704 · August 27th, 2013, 06:59 AM

I've never seen Chuckwalla in person, but my first impression is "Damn, they stuck that track out in the middle of nowhere!"

I rode the long way out to my parents house this morning and was reminded of some of the better corners within those 40 miles. I'll grab some Google Maps screenshots in just a bit. I have 3 sets of corners in mind that are probably my favorites.

Edit... Ok, lets see how many posts this takes... I have quite a few screenshots that flow through 2 of the sections I mentioned. @Jono knows these curves as well. They are fun in either direction, but this time the pics are going from West to East, or left to right on the overhead view.

BRad704 · August 27th, 2013, 08:08 AM

Second half.... Basically this is a couple of what we can call switchbacks (at least for Memphis).

csmith12 · August 27th, 2013, 08:15 AM

Cool stuff Brad, we have a similar road in my parts that we call the "goat path". The only difference between mine and your is the yellow line. We don't have one

No run off and a lot visually going on. Challenge indeed.

Jono · August 27th, 2013, 09:00 PM

@BRad704 I should go ride these corners tomorrow with the GoPro recording so people can get a better view. To be honest I don't recognize all those turns. Things look different through google maps.

BRad704 · August 28th, 2013, 07:04 AM

I tried out my mom's GoPro Hero 3 yesterday with the suction mount on the front of the tank. REALLY good stuff! Unfortunately it was only around the block.

Yeah, it does look different on Google. It's hard to show the flow in only a few screenshots.

Jono · August 28th, 2013, 10:44 AM

Alright. I got some footage but now I got to edit it then upload to YouTube. It may take me awhile. Haha.

wvninjamom · August 28th, 2013, 01:05 PM

Just rode this route on Sunday. This isn't me in the video, no camera yet. The climb is 1300 ft. in 3 1/2 miles and plenty of turns -

If I counted right, 35 turns.

Link to original page on YouTube.

Misti · August 28th, 2013, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

So the current question is; As seen in the 4th pic, how would you deal with such abrupt camber change? I know what I do but interested in others point of view.

Heheheheh you sound like a CSS coach with the questioning

One of my fav turns of all time is the corkscrew at Laguna, fun and challenging at the same time. I also love 2-5 at Mid Ohio, and 6-9!!! (I love that whole track!)

Asspire · August 28th, 2013, 09:50 PM

Forks of the credit

first time i did that was at night, got lost, then realized that i was going down hill fast, and a flash of a yellow warning sign. not fun.

NevadaWolf · August 28th, 2013, 09:53 PM

That looks epic!

csmith12 · August 28th, 2013, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misti

Heheheheh you sound like a CSS coach with the questioning

One of my fav turns of all time is the corkscrew at Laguna, fun and challenging at the same time. I also love 2-5 at Mid Ohio, and 6-9!!! (I love that whole track!)

Maybe I will apply to be a coach one day, please put in a good word for me if I do. lol I understand it's a TON of work.

Turn 9 at Mid-Ohio will always hold a special place in my heart. Maybe one day soon you can tow me through the corkscrew? What if I say pretty please?

csmith12 · August 28th, 2013, 10:01 PM

Robbie, Asspyre those are awesome additions.

Misti · August 29th, 2013, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

Maybe I will apply to be a coach one day, please put in a good word for me if I do. lol I understand it's a TON of work.

Turn 9 at Mid-Ohio will always hold a special place in my heart. Maybe one day soon you can tow me through the corkscrew? What if I say pretty please?

Do it

they are always looking for coaches and YES it is a TON of work. All good though, totally worth it!

Would love to tow you through the corkscrew sometime

I could use a good dose of Laguna!

ninja250r81 · August 31st, 2013, 05:12 PM

Mine are

https://www.google.com.au/maps?saddr...ra=ls&t=m&z=11

and

https://www.google.com.au/maps?saddr...sz=16&t=m&z=12

and

https://www.google.com.au/maps?saddr...ra=ls&t=m&z=12

and

https://www.google.com.au/maps?saddr...ra=ls&t=m&z=12

and

https://www.google.com.au/maps?saddr...ra=ls&t=m&z=11

BRad704 · September 1st, 2013, 01:50 PM

This route hits pretty much all the normal "twisty" roads that Memphis has. Pretty sad... LOL

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/369020187

Jono · September 2nd, 2013, 04:49 PM

To go along with what @BRad704 said, here is a video of some of our twisties!

Link to original page on YouTube.

csmith12 · September 2nd, 2013, 05:22 PM

Hey Jono, you ride that leg out or knee out? Vid kinda looks leg out.

kmanlyst · September 2nd, 2013, 06:31 PM

Hocking Hills in SE Ohio, out on 56 there is a nice series of turns I like to ride, the whole place has some great corners but this one is my favorite.

Jono · September 2nd, 2013, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

Hey Jono, you ride that leg out or knee out? Vid kinda looks leg out.

Knee out currently. If I ever get SM boots I'll try leg out.

choneofakind · September 2nd, 2013, 07:02 PM

Jono, your bike always looks fun.

August 24th, 2013, 11:58 AM	#1
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Most Challenging/Fun Corners After tainting another thread with chatter about different corners and the challenges they pose, I figured it deserved its own thread. So if you have a particular corner that is very challenging or fun, post it up! It would be awesome to include a pic and/or video of the road. If possible in your video, post from just before turn in to exit so we get the full effect. It’s ok to include track corners too. We can start this off with CycleCam303’s pic of an off camber uphill switchback with a steep grade change at apex. I have a challenging one in mind that I will add when I can get some pics/video. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School
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August 26th, 2013, 11:12 AM	#3
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	So the current question is; As seen in the 4th pic, how would you deal with such abrupt camber change? I know what I do but interested in others point of view. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

August 26th, 2013, 01:03 PM	#6
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	No vid or pic, but there is a turn I take almost everyday to work that gets to me a bit in the down hill direction. On my way to work it is up hill right hander and barely a curve at all and I can blast it all day long. On the way back it is down hill off camber left hander with the road cresting just before apex and the road also with a downward angle towards the outside. For such a small curve it is goofy and I take it cautiously in the down hill direction. Maybe I can snag a pic on my way home today. __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

August 26th, 2013, 01:15 PM	#7
NevadaWolf Certified looney toon Name: Teri Location: 39°52'40.7"N 118°23'53.8"W (Northern NV) Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 102k+ miles -- 2014 CB500X, 42k+ miles Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 16 MOTM Jul '13, Jul '14	This is one of my favorite series of turns, located on the truck route going to Virginia City. Always have an easier time going up than coming down for some reason. The contour lines are 40ft apart to help see the elevation gain. And the somewhat best view from Google I can get. Looking south. __________________________________________________ <-- Linky Hey Unregistered! The code [you] shows the username currently logged in. IBA # 56020 AMA # 521481 Fun Rides! ][ My Videos ][ My Gear Hold yourself to the same rules you expect others to follow.

August 26th, 2013, 07:20 PM	#10
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	@BRad704 - @NevadaWolf - @subxero - So the bottom drops out of it Joe? Is that what I see in the pic? __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

August 26th, 2013, 07:47 PM	#12
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	i give you... turn 9 -- aka "Crash mountain" @ CVR. a small uphill right hander leads into a cresting off camber hard left followed by a steep downhill chicane into the the hard right into the back straight. Link to original page on YouTube. and here is a video of me crashing on this turn! Link to original page on YouTube. here's a crash going the other way: Link to original page on YouTube. __________________________________________________

August 27th, 2013, 08:15 AM	#15
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Cool stuff Brad, we have a similar road in my parts that we call the "goat path". The only difference between mine and your is the yellow line. We don't have one No run off and a lot visually going on. Challenge indeed. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

August 27th, 2013, 09:00 PM	#16
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	@BRad704 I should go ride these corners tomorrow with the GoPro recording so people can get a better view. To be honest I don't recognize all those turns. Things look different through google maps.

August 28th, 2013, 07:04 AM	#17
BRad704 Big Dreams, Small Wallet Name: Brad Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Feb 2013 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R (Sold), 93 VFR750F (In Pieces) Posts: 508	I tried out my mom's GoPro Hero 3 yesterday with the suction mount on the front of the tank. REALLY good stuff! Unfortunately it was only around the block. Yeah, it does look different on Google. It's hard to show the flow in only a few screenshots. __________________________________________________ ~BRad

August 28th, 2013, 10:44 AM	#18
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Alright. I got some footage but now I got to edit it then upload to YouTube. It may take me awhile. Haha.

August 28th, 2013, 01:05 PM	#19
wvninjamom ninjette.org member Name: Robbie Location: Kingwood, WV Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R, 2011 Kawasaki Vulcan Voyager Posts: 84	Just rode this route on Sunday. This isn't me in the video, no camera yet. The climb is 1300 ft. in 3 1/2 miles and plenty of turns - If I counted right, 35 turns. Link to original page on YouTube. Last futzed with by wvninjamom; August 29th, 2013 at 04:00 AM. Reason: Adding info

August 28th, 2013, 09:50 PM	#21
Asspire Fix It Till Ya Break It Name: Asspyre Location: T.Dot Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 08 250RRrrrr Posts: 623	Forks of the credit first time i did that was at night, got lost, then realized that i was going down hill fast, and a flash of a yellow warning sign. not fun.
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August 28th, 2013, 09:53 PM	#22
NevadaWolf Certified looney toon Name: Teri Location: 39°52'40.7"N 118°23'53.8"W (Northern NV) Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 102k+ miles -- 2014 CB500X, 42k+ miles Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 16 MOTM Jul '13, Jul '14	That looks epic! __________________________________________________ <-- Linky Hey Unregistered! The code [you] shows the username currently logged in. IBA # 56020 AMA # 521481 Fun Rides! ][ My Videos ][ My Gear Hold yourself to the same rules you expect others to follow.

August 28th, 2013, 10:01 PM	#24
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Robbie, Asspyre those are awesome additions. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

August 31st, 2013, 05:12 PM	#26
ninja250r81 ninjette.org guru Name: scott Location: australia Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 ninja 250r se Posts: 435	Mine are https://www.google.com.au/maps?saddr...ra=ls&t=m&z=11 and https://www.google.com.au/maps?saddr...sz=16&t=m&z=12 and https://www.google.com.au/maps?saddr...ra=ls&t=m&z=12 and https://www.google.com.au/maps?saddr...ra=ls&t=m&z=12 and https://www.google.com.au/maps?saddr...ra=ls&t=m&z=11

September 1st, 2013, 01:50 PM	#27
BRad704 Big Dreams, Small Wallet Name: Brad Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Feb 2013 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R (Sold), 93 VFR750F (In Pieces) Posts: 508	This route hits pretty much all the normal "twisty" roads that Memphis has. Pretty sad... LOL http://connect.garmin.com/activity/369020187 __________________________________________________ ~BRad

September 2nd, 2013, 04:49 PM	#28
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	To go along with what @BRad704 said, here is a video of some of our twisties! Link to original page on YouTube.
	1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.

September 2nd, 2013, 05:22 PM	#29
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Hey Jono, you ride that leg out or knee out? Vid kinda looks leg out. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

September 2nd, 2013, 06:31 PM	#30
kmanlyst ninjette.org member Name: Karl Location: Columbus Ohio Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Kawasaki Ninja 250 Posts: 33	Hocking Hills in SE Ohio, out on 56 there is a nice series of turns I like to ride, the whole place has some great corners but this one is my favorite. __________________________________________________ The more difficulties one has to encounter, within and without, the more significant and the higher in inspiration his life will be.

September 2nd, 2013, 07:02 PM	#32
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Jono, your bike always looks fun.

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