How to convince parents?

[choneofakind]

You know, you can get equally functional gear for a lot less. (just don't tell him that)

[blessthenoobs]

Yeah, this is what I planning on getting

Shark Speed R Helmet
RST Ventilator 2 Jacket
RST Ventilator 2 Pants
RST trachtech full gauntlets
Alpinestar Hydrosport Drystar

Total cost ~$1130

[JohnnyBravo]

Sounds like he is warm on the idea... It's mum y'all got to get to come around!

[Daks]

My mom told me I wasn't allowed to ride one so I moved 3000 miles away and bought one.

By then I was financially stable enough to own one, however.


Bikes can get expensive.

[blessthenoobs]

Just a follow up for anyone interested. Finally convinced both mum and dad

Well they're not really convinced, they're more like "We don't care what you do, go kill yourself on your bike if you want", but I'll take it

[xaple]

Originally Posted by Aufitt

Good thing the guy who made this sign knows it all, especially use of capitalization!

Also I didn't even know they had electricity in Australia.

[mrb]

Originally Posted by blessthenoobs

Just a follow up for anyone interested. Finally convinced both mum and dad

Well they're not really convinced, they're more like "We don't care what you do, go kill yourself on your bike if you want", but I'll take it

HAHA. Same thing happened to me except it was more my mom who was still a little sore about it. They will get used to it eventually. JUST.. DON'T.. CRASH. You will never hear the end of it (not from experience, thankfully)

Also, From my experience, don't talk about how awesome of a ride you had or how close you got to the ground or how exhilarating it is etc... Parents won't see it as you being happy or having fun, they will see it as you putting yourself in danger, and at least for the first couple months, you don't want to put them in a position to think that. Leave the exciting stuff for bragging to your friends

[csmith12]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

According to csmith12's evaluation of his son's riding, I don't think I'm fit to ride a bicycle

I just saw this, hahahahahahha I had a good laugh too.

[Kokosun]

I agree with MRB ... don't give them any reason to justify their concerns. Get some (good) training and ride carefully.

[JohnnyBravo]

Yay... Now get a bike, an post pics

[blessthenoobs]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

Yay... Now get a bike, an post pics

Counting the days until 1st of February

[JohnnyBravo]

That's just around the corner

[blessthenoobs]

Mum even came and helped me pick my helmet today, a big difference from a year ago when she threatened to kick me out of the house if I even thought of buying a bike.

11 days to go

[Sirref]

Just remember that they'll always worry no matter how responsible or irresponsible, for your sake I hope it's the former, you ride. Luckily you have their support, but their support in this case is for you to be as safe as possible because they've given up on keeping you from riding. Do you have a bike picked out or are you just going to a dealership?

[blessthenoobs]

Originally Posted by Sirref

Just remember that they'll always worry no matter how responsible or irresponsible, for your sake I hope it's the former, you ride. Luckily you have their support, but their support in this case is for you to be as safe as possible because they've given up on keeping you from riding. Do you have a bike picked out or are you just going to a dealership?

I'll try my best to be as responsible as I can (I know as a 19 year old I don't really have much credibility, but still). Buying the best gear I can afford and going to be ATGATT (spending way more on gear and training than the bike itself).

I'm going to buy a CBR250RR (1991-1996). As soon as I sat on one I was in love with it and the inline 4 revving to 20,000 RPM is apparently a lot of fun.

[Sirref]

oh you lucky little....that there is a dream bike of mine hahaha, it's nothing special in the areas where you can get it but an I4 250/400rr makes a perfect street sport bike. As for being responsible, it's really not possible to be truly responsible when you're young enough. Hell, I still struggle with my immaturity and irresponsibility all the time and I turn 21 next month. I got my 250 when I was 19 and I don't really regret it though I have a few injuries that will definitely affect me as I age (mostly my right knee/right hip) from when I got hit by a car, largely because I was doubling the speed limit and the driver didn't see me (on a college campus)

In terms of riding being aware of your surroundings is the most important thing, there is a time and a place to go fast but there are also numerous times and places to slow the hell down. In terms of the bike itself, so long as it's mechanically sound make sure you invest in your tires/brakes/and suspension as those are the most important things in terms of your bike's ability to get you out of a sticky situation. That and while going fast and getting mad lean angle is tempting the most important physical control skill to master on your bike is braking and using as much of the brakes as you can without locking them up. If you lock the rear keep it locked, if you lock the front release and reapply.

[blessthenoobs]

Originally Posted by Sirref

oh you lucky little....that there is a dream bike of mine hahaha, it's nothing special in the areas where you can get it but an I4 250/400rr makes a perfect street sport bike. As for being responsible, it's really not possible to be truly responsible when you're young enough. Hell, I still struggle with my immaturity and irresponsibility all the time and I turn 21 next month. I got my 250 when I was 19 and I don't really regret it though I have a few injuries that will definitely affect me as I age (mostly my right knee/right hip) from when I got hit by a car, largely because I was doubling the speed limit and the driver didn't see me (on a college campus)

In terms of riding being aware of your surroundings is the most important thing, there is a time and a place to go fast but there are also numerous times and places to slow the hell down. In terms of the bike itself, so long as it's mechanically sound make sure you invest in your tires/brakes/and suspension as those are the most important things in terms of your bike's ability to get you out of a sticky situation. That and while going fast and getting mad lean angle is tempting the most important physical control skill to master on your bike is braking and using as much of the brakes as you can without locking them up. If you lock the rear keep it locked, if you lock the front release and reapply.

Thanks a lot for the advice, I'll definitely keep it in mind! I'll keep the 'spirited' riding for the track haha


As for the Babyblade, everyone I've talked to have said they're amazing starter bikes and recommend them. Only problem is, since most of them are over 20 years old they've been trashed heaps and many of them have hidden problems. I'll be taking a mate of mine who rides along for any inspections/test rides for his advice.

[Boom King]

Pay attention to the electronics and carbs. I can't emphasize enough the value for a beginner in having a bike that simply starts up every time but revving close to 20,000 also does sound hella fun Hope everything on the bike checks out for you.

[Checky]

IMO 18 is too young but thats just me.

[Sirref]

Originally Posted by Checky

IMO 18 is too young but thats just me.

I'm 20 and I still think I'm way too young to be trusted on a bike, I don't trust myself to not do anything stupid at all.

[MasterLanMan]

I mean... The only way to really learn is for you to actually make mistakes. Reading about other people making mistakes is informative and all, but its the experience that really stays with you.

[blessthenoobs]

Originally Posted by Checky

IMO 18 is too young but thats just me.

I'm 19 now, if that helps :P

Had my driving license for over 3 years though, (2 as a learner and 1 as a provisional)

[JohnnyBravo]

I wanna I4!!! Lucky mate

[blessthenoobs]

[JohnnyBravo]

Sweet pic!!! I'm gonna need you to ship me the kawi version, please!

[blessthenoobs]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

Sweet pic!!! I'm gonna need you to ship me the kawi version, please!

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/port-...x2r/1036670359

Shame it's like 3000 km away from me hahaha

[JohnnyBravo]

That's tight!!! I need one of them motors for sure!!! Man wish I was born where the toilets spin the other direction an the koalas roam

[Klondike1020]

Your parents will not approve of motorcycling . Period .
Probably because they care about you and understand the real dangers of motorcycling.

At the same time you combine youth and inexperience w the dangers of traffic and vulnerabilities of motorcycling.

My advice. Work more . Be self sufficient. And get a motorcycle when you can support yourself and not live under their roof.

Changing their minds about the risk of motorcycling won't happen.
You can only change their minds about you and your abilities.

Being mature, responsible, purposeful in your decisions and priorities.

Then eventually when you are "your own man" not dependent on them they will have to accept your decisions as you will not need their approval.

That's how I did it as a kid. It worked out eventually.

[blessthenoobs]

Originally Posted by Klondike1020

Your parents will not approve of motorcycling . Period .
Probably because they care about you and understand the real dangers of motorcycling.

At the same time you combine youth and inexperience w the dangers of traffic and vulnerabilities of motorcycling.

My advice. Work more . Be self sufficient. And get a motorcycle when you can support yourself and not live under their roof.

Changing their minds about the risk of motorcycling won't happen.
You can only change their minds about you and your abilities.

Being mature, responsible, purposeful in your decisions and priorities.

Then eventually when you are "your own man" not dependent on them they will have to accept your decisions as you will not need their approval.

That's how I did it as a kid. It worked out eventually.

Yeah I convinced them and just bought my first bike (the pic above)

[Klondike1020]

Originally Posted by blessthenoobs

Yeah I convinced them and just bought my first bike (the pic above)

Say what model is that! Sweet ride!

Ride safe man . Tool me the last few minutes to realize I answered something on te first page and my post no longer pertained!

Smoke tires not drugs .... Jk

But nice bike , how is it working out for you!?

[blessthenoobs]

Originally Posted by Klondike1020

Say what model is that! Sweet ride!

Ride safe man . Tool me the last few minutes to realize I answered something on te first page and my post no longer pertained!

Smoke tires not drugs .... Jk

But nice bike , how is it working out for you!?

1991 CBR250RR (Japanese grey import) with 70,000 km on the Odo.

I checked it out with my mate yesterday, did a few laps in a parking lot (and nearly dropped it 5 times). The seller is dropping it off at my place in a few hours and once the paperwork is finished it will be mine

Just gonna cruise the back streets for the first 2 weeks hahaha

[Klondike1020]

I like the dual front disc and the aluminum frame and swinger.

But what's with the exhaust wrap where the silencer meets the collector tube?

[Klondike1020]

Originally Posted by blessthenoobs

1991 CBR250RR (Japanese grey import) with 70,000 km on the Odo.

I checked it out with my mate yesterday, did a few laps in a parking lot (and nearly dropped it 5 times). The seller is dropping it off at my place in a few hours and once the paperwork is finished it will be mine

Just gonna cruise the back streets for the first 2 weeks hahaha

Such an awesome bike for a 250! Nice technology for a small displacement !!

Good luck and ride safe! Familiarize yourself with the controls till they are second nature and get used to the handling ! Once that is instinctive you can spend your brain power on situational awareness. And watching out for dangers and identifying risk is important.

Assume all the other drivers are trying to cause you harm ...

Haha and give it a few weeks before you start showing off, nothing worse than stalling or falling in front of an audience

[Klondike1020]

Originally Posted by blessthenoobs

1991 CBR250RR (Japanese grey import) with 70,000 km on the Odo.

I checked it out with my mate yesterday, did a few laps in a parking lot (and nearly dropped it 5 times). The seller is dropping it off at my place in a few hours and once the paperwork is finished it will be mine

Just gonna cruise the back streets for the first 2 weeks hahaha

Such an awesome bike for a 250! Nice technology for a small displacement !!

Good luck and ride safe! Familiarize yourself with the controls till they are second nature and get used to the handling ! Once that is instinctive you can spend your brain power on situational awareness. And watching out for dangers and identifying risk is important.

Assume all the other drivers are trying to cause you harm ...

Haha and give it a few weeks before you start showing off, nothing worse than stalling or falling in front of an audience


- are the passenger pegs removed because of the aftermarket pipe ?

[dcj13]

Good lookin' bike! I, too, am suprised a 250 would have dual front disks.

[blessthenoobs]

Originally Posted by Klondike1020

I like the dual front disc and the aluminum frame and swinger.

But what's with the exhaust wrap where the silencer meets the collector tube?

The seller said that the exhaust gets pretty close to the fairings (I'm assuming they're aftermarket fairings because all of these 23 year old bikes have been low sided a lot of times). So he put some heat shield wrap to prevent the fairings from being damaged.

[blessthenoobs]

Originally Posted by Klondike1020

- are the passenger pegs removed because of the aftermarket pipe ?

They're hidden, they're little switches you engage to bring the pegs out. I will probably remove them and the seat to convert to single seat vehicle though. The registration costs every year are cut in nearly half.

[Sirref]

Originally Posted by blessthenoobs

The seller said that the exhaust gets pretty close to the fairings (I'm assuming they're aftermarket fairings because all of these 23 year old bikes have been low sided a lot of times). So he put some heat shield wrap to prevent the fairings from being damaged.

Even if they are aftermarket the bike looks clean. Sweet ride, I'm jealous and would trade my 300 for one of those (ideally a 400cc I4 though) you won't be needing passenger pegs for a while. I'd work on parking lot stuff for a few days with it before heading out. Pretty much everything can be mastered at low speeds with the exception of cornering. Enjoy the ride, I hope I don't see you In the crash reports with a bike that beautiful.

[blessthenoobs]

Originally Posted by Sirref

Even if they are aftermarket the bike looks clean. Sweet ride, I'm jealous and would trade my 300 for one of those (ideally a 400cc I4 though) you won't be needing passenger pegs for a while. I'd work on parking lot stuff for a few days with it before heading out. Pretty much everything can be mastered at low speeds with the exception of cornering. Enjoy the ride, I hope I don't see you In the crash reports with a bike that beautiful.

Pre owned 300's go for around $6000 here while I got the 250RR for $2500. So you should hope to get a 400 cc I4 haha

[Klondike1020]

Originally Posted by blessthenoobs

Pre owned 300's go for around $6000 here while I got the 250RR for $2500. So you should hope to get a 400 cc I4 haha

sweet deal . seems like you got it all figured out!

I am doing a similar thing with the heat wrap where my exhaust i smelting the fairing on my gsxr

You should take a vacation to Thailand once you get experienced

you can rent a ninja 650 for 35$ us a day

its cheap fun lol