Jumping ship in 2015 - Yamaha R25/R3 - Page 10

Trailerboy531 · June 10th, 2014, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

636 FTW!

If I ditch Kawi for the R3, id be looking to get my hands on a new gen 636

Come to California and you can ride mine

Aufitt · June 11th, 2014, 12:44 AM

Yamaha have made no mention of (pointless) 300cc size bore & stroke.

They call it an r25.

Does anyone have a link to 300cc mentioned?

mania · June 11th, 2014, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aufitt

Yamaha have made no mention of (pointless) 300cc size bore & stroke.

They call it an r25.

Does anyone have a link to 300cc mentioned?

The speculation about a 300 started because Yamaha recently trademarked
"YZF-R3" & "R3"

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news...demark-yzf-r3/

akima · June 12th, 2014, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mania

The speculation about a 300 started because Yamaha recently trademarked
"YZF-R3" & "R3"

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news...demark-yzf-r3/

Wow. Is that it?

silentIm · June 26th, 2014, 11:29 PM

Just some update guys, to see if YZF R25/ R3 worth to wait for you guys.

Recently, local Indonesian mags M+ tested Ninja 250 with the new YZF R25 stock to stock, at Indonesian Sentul racetrack. The tester is a national racer used to race on Ninja 250 and 600 class, Nico Julian. The test is done by doing 5 laps on each bike and pick the best time. On stock Ninja 250, his best time is 2 minute 3.62 second. On the R25, he get better lap time, 1 minute 59,59 second, or 3 seconds faster.

He admitted higher power output and lighter weight of R25 contribute to the better lap time, especially on exiting corner and the straight. The handling is lighter and less demanding. " it feels better for cornering. It's also lighter, so it's easier when during turning in and exiting apex. This also makes its lap time more special than the Ninja."

The ninja 250 FI (EX250L) here should be comparable to EX250J in the US because of similar weight and performance.

Ninja 250 FI

Max power on dyno 28,16hp@11.342RPM
Max torque 18,91NM@8.728RPM
0-60 km/hour 3,08 second
0-100 meter 6,27 second
0-201 meter 9,74 second
Best time Sentul : 2 minute 3,62 second
Top speed : 165 km/jam

YZF R25
Max power on dyno 32,23hp@12.528RPM
Max torque 20,17NM@10.354RPM
0-60 km/hour 2,89 second
0-100 meter 6,14 second
0-201 meter 9,61 second
Best time Sentul : 1 minute 59,94 second
Top speed : 172 km/jam

http://iwanbanaran.com/2014/06/27/ad...p-mengejutkan/

Sentul circuit layout

sharky nrk · June 27th, 2014, 06:49 AM

What tires do each come with over there, where they on the same rubber? Definitely looks like the yami has a power advantage on the dyno.

csmith12 · June 27th, 2014, 09:04 AM

While I am indifferent about the bodywork....

silentIm · June 27th, 2014, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharky nrk

What tires do each come with over there, where they on the same rubber? Definitely looks like the yami has a power advantage on the dyno.

I suppose they are stock IRC rubber.

kdogg2077 · July 7th, 2014, 08:32 AM

https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=187935

Interesting rumor that the new Yamaha will actually be a 320cc, which would be 24cc over the Ninja 300 and 34cc over the Honda.

Not sure how much difference that would make.

CZroe · July 7th, 2014, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdogg2077

...

That's what I've been expecting, especially when the rumors hit about a 4-cyl 250 (250 in SOME markets, >300 in others).

akima · July 7th, 2014, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZroe

That's what I've been expecting, especially when the rumors hit about a 4-cyl 250 (250 in SOME markets, >300 in others).

Huh... where did you hear this?

CZroe · July 7th, 2014, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akima

Huh... where did you hear this?

https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=186482

xorbe · July 7th, 2014, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdogg2077

https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=187935

Interesting rumor that the new Yamaha will actually be a 320cc, which would be 24cc over the Ninja 300 and 34cc over the Honda.

Not sure how much difference that would make.

Hate to say it, but I'd rather have a 320cc twin over a 250cc 4-cyl for casual weekend riding. I've scaled my 4-cyl Honda CBR650F ambitions back to the 2-cyl 471cc CBR500 series or Ninja 300. I think a 4-cyl 250cc would be an absolute hoot to ride, but just not as my main regular ride. If I'm going to deal with 4-cyl, I think 400cc is in order.

CZroe · July 7th, 2014, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xorbe

...

"250" 4-cyl is just the word out of Indonesia where it makes perfect sense. The 4-cyl 250 will likely be much larger in other markets. I think it may be intended to replace the Ninja 400 in Quebec and compete with the CBR500 here. That explains perfectly why the R25 is getting a bigger boost than expected and may also explain why the CBR300 was delayed (back to the drawing board).

Sirref · July 7th, 2014, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZroe

"250" 4-cyl is just the word out of Indonesia where it makes perfect sense. The 4-cyl 250 will likely be much larger in other markets. I think it may be intended to replace the Ninja 400 in Quebec and compete with the CBR500 here. That explains perfectly why the R25 is getting a bigger boost than expected and may also explain why the CBR300 was delayed (back to the drawing board).

If quebec gets a modern 4-cyl 250 I'll be interested. If they get a 4-cyl 400 then I'll start looking into import taxes and registration.

CZroe · July 7th, 2014, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirref

If quebec gets a modern 4-cyl 250 I'll be interested. If they get a 4-cyl 400 then I'll start looking into import taxes and registration.

LOL! It's not because they are special.

Theirs will not be any more desirable. They won't get it unless we get something equal or better.

I *think* it was Quebec, but some Canadian province had some legislation or insurance restriction for beginners or a certain license class that kept the limit under a certain HP so Kawi sleeved down a 650R to match. After jumping through those hoops, there wasn't any reason not to sell it in the rest of Canada. It was an HP limit and not a displacement limit, IIRC.

A 4cyl 300, 325, 350, 375, or 400 might replace the Ninja 400R if they can stay under the imposed HP limit. If the model they offer here generates too much HP for that market it will probably be closer than the 650R was so they might be slightly de-tuned there with no sleeved-down displacement.

I think it'll most likely be an extra 25cc per cylinder outside of Indonesia for a total of 350cc.

sharky nrk · October 16th, 2014, 07:15 AM

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bike...in-coming-usa/

Looks potent for a ninjette class bike.

Alex · October 16th, 2014, 07:20 AM

/merged

sharky nrk · October 16th, 2014, 07:22 AM

^^ forgot about this thread, thank you sir.

sharky nrk · October 16th, 2014, 07:23 AM

Someone really needs to make M1 style bodywork for this thing like the promo bike

csmith12 · October 16th, 2014, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharky nrk

Someone really needs to make M1 style bodywork for this thing like the promo bike

ikr... the bodywork makes me think cbr (sorta).

kdogg2077 · October 16th, 2014, 07:59 AM

Wow the number of options in small displacement bikes has really gone up in the last year or so.

CBR 250 and 500, Ninja 300, RC 390 and now this.

Like the article says Suzuki needs to join this party.

Having some competition should keep Kawa from getting lazy.

Somchai · October 16th, 2014, 08:16 AM

This lets me risc a forecast, based on what we know from Kwaki, Ninja 250 to Ninja 300 in hp at the crank and taking the already known crank-hp from the Yami 250 then I would guess for the R3 = 44 to 46 hp at the crank...

cadd · October 16th, 2014, 08:38 AM

Kinda looks like a ninja 300 to me. But more chiseled.

Brother Michigan · October 16th, 2014, 08:50 AM

Damnit, Yamaha; I don't have the money for a new bike right now!

xorbe · October 16th, 2014, 09:19 AM

What is the whp, where is the rpm limiter set to, and when is the on sale date.

Jono · October 16th, 2014, 09:39 AM

Daaayyyym!

I see the CBR in it too.

Jono · October 16th, 2014, 09:49 AM

Looks like 03-05 R6.

Byakkotai · October 16th, 2014, 10:14 AM

Tach!

sharky nrk · October 16th, 2014, 10:17 AM

I like that is has beefier forks (41mm) and a floating front rotor standard - the bike seems built to be run a little harder than the current "1/4 class" bikes. I should clean up nicely with some parts that normally get added to bikes (rearsets, exhaust, etc) as they are some of the cheaper looking bits on it.

Jono · October 16th, 2014, 10:17 AM

All the info you need is here!
http://www.yamahamotorsports.com/spo...18/0/home.aspx

Cheaper and better looking IMO than the other little Jap bikes. I think Yamaha's got a winner.

Any guesses when the Ninja 350 will be revealed?

SSneekey6.0 · October 16th, 2014, 10:36 AM

SEXAY! Definitely something to look forward to (plan on) next year.

allanoue · October 16th, 2014, 10:39 AM

321cc win

3.7 gal fail

Alex · October 16th, 2014, 10:39 AM

Colin Edwards video....

Link to original page on YouTube.

Sirref · October 16th, 2014, 10:44 AM

I like that they're using real tires to start off with, <3 those michelin radials

the guage cluster looks sick too, I'll be recommending this bike far and wide

Sirref · October 16th, 2014, 10:51 AM

that was a well done ad, a bit of humor but still gets their point across

I just wonder whether colin actually wanted to do it or not

also, looking at it more I see the cbr similarities...and I like them

allanoue · October 16th, 2014, 10:58 AM

I can't get passed the fact that if you have 200 miles between gas stations you will be walking 20 or 30 miles. It will have a range < a ZERO

Alex · October 16th, 2014, 11:00 AM

OK - I own r3forum.org.

Sirref · October 16th, 2014, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allanoue

I can't get passed the fact that if you have 200 miles between gas stations you will be walking 20 or 30 miles. It will have a range < a ZERO

I fill up every 150~ miles anyway so that's not a massive issue....also T.T 3.5gal for 150mi...I should consider using less throttle

allanoue · October 16th, 2014, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirref

I fill up every 150~ miles anyway so that's not a massive issue....also T.T 3.5gal for 150mi...I should consider using less throttle

I get 240 miles all the time on my 300.

150 miles I would be at the gas station everyday

I love everything else about the R3, but range is very important to me.

June 26th, 2014, 11:29 PM	#365
silentIm ninjette.org member Name: Firman Location: Surabaya, Indonesia Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 red ninja 250r Posts: 94	Just some update guys, to see if YZF R25/ R3 worth to wait for you guys. Recently, local Indonesian mags M+ tested Ninja 250 with the new YZF R25 stock to stock, at Indonesian Sentul racetrack. The tester is a national racer used to race on Ninja 250 and 600 class, Nico Julian. The test is done by doing 5 laps on each bike and pick the best time. On stock Ninja 250, his best time is 2 minute 3.62 second. On the R25, he get better lap time, 1 minute 59,59 second, or 3 seconds faster. He admitted higher power output and lighter weight of R25 contribute to the better lap time, especially on exiting corner and the straight. The handling is lighter and less demanding. " it feels better for cornering. It's also lighter, so it's easier when during turning in and exiting apex. This also makes its lap time more special than the Ninja." The ninja 250 FI (EX250L) here should be comparable to EX250J in the US because of similar weight and performance. Ninja 250 FI Max power on dyno 28,16hp@11.342RPM Max torque 18,91NM@8.728RPM 0-60 km/hour 3,08 second 0-100 meter 6,27 second 0-201 meter 9,74 second Best time Sentul : 2 minute 3,62 second Top speed : 165 km/jam YZF R25 Max power on dyno 32,23hp@12.528RPM Max torque 20,17NM@10.354RPM 0-60 km/hour 2,89 second 0-100 meter 6,14 second 0-201 meter 9,61 second Best time Sentul : 1 minute 59,94 second Top speed : 172 km/jam http://iwanbanaran.com/2014/06/27/ad...p-mengejutkan/ Sentul circuit layout __________________________________________________ Corner is what the ninjette is made for.
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June 27th, 2014, 06:49 AM	#366
sharky nrk Fighting Texas Aggie '05 Name: Neil Location: Hutto, TX Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.	What tires do each come with over there, where they on the same rubber? Definitely looks like the yami has a power advantage on the dyno. __________________________________________________ Keep it rubber side down and enjoy the ride Get healthy - Get Fit - Change Your Life Click Here Or PM Me To Find More - Advocare

July 7th, 2014, 08:32 AM	#369
kdogg2077 ninjette.org sage Name: Alex Location: Ebensburg, PA Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2015 Yamaha FZ07, Ninja 250r 2012 Limited Edition (Sold) Posts: 529	https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=187935 Interesting rumor that the new Yamaha will actually be a 320cc, which would be 24cc over the Ninja 300 and 34cc over the Honda. Not sure how much difference that would make. __________________________________________________ "Take it easy driving. The life you might save might be mine." Last futzed with by kdogg2077; July 7th, 2014 at 08:56 AM. Reason: typo

October 16th, 2014, 07:15 AM	#377
sharky nrk Fighting Texas Aggie '05 Name: Neil Location: Hutto, TX Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.	Yami is bringing it http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bike...in-coming-usa/ Looks potent for a ninjette class bike. __________________________________________________ Keep it rubber side down and enjoy the ride Get healthy - Get Fit - Change Your Life Click Here Or PM Me To Find More - Advocare

October 16th, 2014, 07:20 AM	#378
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	/merged __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

June 11th, 2014, 12:44 AM	#362
Aufitt The A Team Name: Aufitt Location: Western Australia Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Z50, CB125, RZ500, MC22, R3. Posts: 394	Yamaha have made no mention of (pointless) 300cc size bore & stroke. They call it an r25. Does anyone have a link to 300cc mentioned?

October 16th, 2014, 07:22 AM	#379
sharky nrk Fighting Texas Aggie '05 Name: Neil Location: Hutto, TX Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.	^^ forgot about this thread, thank you sir. __________________________________________________ Keep it rubber side down and enjoy the ride Get healthy - Get Fit - Change Your Life Click Here Or PM Me To Find More - Advocare

October 16th, 2014, 07:23 AM	#380
sharky nrk Fighting Texas Aggie '05 Name: Neil Location: Hutto, TX Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.	Someone really needs to make M1 style bodywork for this thing like the promo bike __________________________________________________ Keep it rubber side down and enjoy the ride Get healthy - Get Fit - Change Your Life Click Here Or PM Me To Find More - Advocare
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October 16th, 2014, 07:59 AM	#382
kdogg2077 ninjette.org sage Name: Alex Location: Ebensburg, PA Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2015 Yamaha FZ07, Ninja 250r 2012 Limited Edition (Sold) Posts: 529	Wow the number of options in small displacement bikes has really gone up in the last year or so. CBR 250 and 500, Ninja 300, RC 390 and now this. Like the article says Suzuki needs to join this party. Having some competition should keep Kawa from getting lazy. __________________________________________________ "Take it easy driving. The life you might save might be mine."

October 16th, 2014, 08:16 AM	#383
Somchai Freedom for Germany Location: This World Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R-FI Posts: A lot.	This lets me risc a forecast, based on what we know from Kwaki, Ninja 250 to Ninja 300 in hp at the crank and taking the already known crank-hp from the Yami 250 then I would guess for the R3 = 44 to 46 hp at the crank...

October 16th, 2014, 08:38 AM	#384
cadd cadd cadd cadd Name: Cadd Location: 41°21'13.1"N, 74°41'37.4"W Join Date: Jan 2014 Motorcycle(s): 300 Posts: A lot. MOTM - May '15	Kinda looks like a ninja 300 to me. But more chiseled.

October 16th, 2014, 08:50 AM	#385
Brother Michigan ninjette.org sage Name: Aaron Location: Winder, GA Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 Posts: 718	Damnit, Yamaha; I don't have the money for a new bike right now! __________________________________________________ DISCLAIMER: I generally have no idea what I'm talking about.

October 16th, 2014, 09:19 AM	#386
xorbe ninjette.org guru Name: xorbe Location: Bay Area, CA Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): N650 (and others) Posts: 408	What is the whp, where is the rpm limiter set to, and when is the on sale date.

October 16th, 2014, 09:39 AM	#387
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Daaayyyym! I see the CBR in it too.

October 16th, 2014, 09:49 AM	#388
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Looks like 03-05 R6.

October 16th, 2014, 10:14 AM	#389
Byakkotai ninjette.org guru Name: Roger Location: NorCali - East Bay Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 White Ninja 300 Posts: 379	Tach!

October 16th, 2014, 10:17 AM	#390
sharky nrk Fighting Texas Aggie '05 Name: Neil Location: Hutto, TX Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.	I like that is has beefier forks (41mm) and a floating front rotor standard - the bike seems built to be run a little harder than the current "1/4 class" bikes. I should clean up nicely with some parts that normally get added to bikes (rearsets, exhaust, etc) as they are some of the cheaper looking bits on it. __________________________________________________ Keep it rubber side down and enjoy the ride Get healthy - Get Fit - Change Your Life Click Here Or PM Me To Find More - Advocare

October 16th, 2014, 10:17 AM	#391
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	All the info you need is here! http://www.yamahamotorsports.com/spo...18/0/home.aspx Cheaper and better looking IMO than the other little Jap bikes. I think Yamaha's got a winner. Any guesses when the Ninja 350 will be revealed?

October 16th, 2014, 10:36 AM	#392
SSneekey6.0 ninjette.org member Name: Adam Location: TN Join Date: May 2014 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250 Posts: 46	SEXAY! Definitely something to look forward to (plan on) next year.

October 16th, 2014, 10:39 AM	#393
allanoue ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Al Location: York, Pa Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300..............2008 Ninja 500-sold...2009 Ninja 250-Crashed Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '14	321cc win 3.7 gal fail __________________________________________________ Keep calm and ride on -Motofool Never quit on a rainy day -ally99

October 16th, 2014, 10:39 AM	#394
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October 16th, 2014, 10:44 AM	#395
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	I like that they're using real tires to start off with, <3 those michelin radials the guage cluster looks sick too, I'll be recommending this bike far and wide __________________________________________________ I see you over there seeing me, do you see the me I think you see?

October 16th, 2014, 10:51 AM	#396
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	that was a well done ad, a bit of humor but still gets their point across I just wonder whether colin actually wanted to do it or not also, looking at it more I see the cbr similarities...and I like them __________________________________________________ I see you over there seeing me, do you see the me I think you see?

October 16th, 2014, 10:58 AM	#397
allanoue ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Al Location: York, Pa Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300..............2008 Ninja 500-sold...2009 Ninja 250-Crashed Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '14	I can't get passed the fact that if you have 200 miles between gas stations you will be walking 20 or 30 miles. It will have a range < a ZERO __________________________________________________ Keep calm and ride on -Motofool Never quit on a rainy day -ally99

October 16th, 2014, 11:00 AM	#398
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	OK - I own r3forum.org. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)
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