Raising the tail?

[ninja2007]

Are any aftermarket dog bones available that lift the rear, without going to adjustable links?

I'm a fan of fewer moving parts. Curious if these are available... I'd like it to go up an inch or two.

Zach

[b.miller123]

If you have the older 2007 and before bike, you can just install the 08+ 250 shock and you'll sit higher by a bit, and you can adjust the preload.

[ninja2007]

I've got a 300 shock on her right now.

Namely, she feels small and I'd like to raise the tail... and at a later date put a Ninja 500 front end on her, as I've read that raises the front about 1 1/2 to 2 inches too.

[Sirref]

shorter dogbones

be warned though, you can raise it too much
personally my 250 setup is insanely aggressive. I raised the rear a bit and then lowered the front a lot. It didn't make the bike feel one bit bigger but my back has noticed

[JohnnyBravo]

Raise hell, an praise dale
#3

[sharky nrk]

There are lifting bones from http://burkhartcycle.com/store/index...roducts_id=204

[Chicagobob]

Bigger tire

[SMman]

I want more legroom on my 09 250. I just did 2089kms in 2 days and my legs cramped early in the trip. Anyone try those dog bones above?

[Chicagobob]

Originally Posted by SMman

I want more legroom on my 09 250. I just did 2089kms in 2 days and my legs cramped early in the trip. Anyone try those dog bones above?

New links won't affect legroom. To do that, you'd have to lower the pegs or raise the seat. Safest thing would be to have an upholstery shop re-contour your seat to raise you up an inch or so.

[SMman]

You're right. Sorry for the stupid mistake. I have a Corbin seat on my bike which robbed me of some much needed legroom. I will be contacting Corbin to see what they can do. Thanks.

[cbinker]

I was attempting to figure something out for my bike, its an '08. I crashed this weekend losing the front and too often i felt like there was not enough weight on the front end. I was thinking raising the rear about an inch would help with the geometry. I have .80 springs in the front and a GSXR shock for the rear.

[bitaria]

Originally Posted by cbinker

I was attempting to figure something out for my bike, its an '08. I crashed this weekend losing the front and too often i felt like there was not enough weight on the front end. I was thinking raising the rear about an inch would help with the geometry. I have .80 springs in the front and a GSXR shock for the rear.

GSXR shock is shorter than stock Ninja 250 unit, you would need a different link just to get back to stock geometry. Biggest argument for high end shocks is height adjustment.

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by cbinker

I was attempting to figure something out for my bike, its an '08. I crashed this weekend losing the front and too often i felt like there was not enough weight on the front end. I was thinking raising the rear about an inch would help with the geometry. I have .80 springs in the front and a GSXR shock for the rear.

i'm curious what you felt that led you to believe there wasn't enough weight on the front? when did you feel this? did the bars start to get loose after turn-in but before pickup? ie pushing the front? are you getting understeer during turn-in while wide open? are you pushing the front out during wide open pickup?

[cbinker]

Originally Posted by bitaria

GSXR shock is shorter than stock Ninja 250 unit, you would need a different link just to get back to stock geometry. Biggest argument for high end shocks is height adjustment.

I already have the dog bones for getting it back to stock height.

Originally Posted by alex.s

i'm curious what you felt that led you to believe there wasn't enough weight on the front? when did you feel this? did the bars start to get loose after turn-in but before pickup? ie pushing the front? are you getting understeer during turn-in while wide open? are you pushing the front out during wide open pickup?

The front end was pushing after the Apex when I getting back to full throttle, and there wasn't much heat in the front tire either. Final note when I started putting more of my weight on the front of the bike, the pushing stopped.

[alex.s]

have you tried getting on the gas sooner? why not go wide open before the apex?

[subxero]

Originally Posted by cbinker

I already have the dog bones for getting it back to stock height.

Just make some new dog bones for a few bucks. Drop $20 on a plate of T6 or $5 on some steel. Cut to shape and drill some holes and you are GTG

You could probably drop the front a little as well, a little up front and a little in the back IDK? whatever works

[cbinker]

Originally Posted by alex.s

have you tried getting on the gas sooner? why not go wide open before the apex?

i know it is suppose to help, but i had no confidence. i guess i have a year to ponder the issue and make some tweaks to the bike.

[alex.s]

what do you think kept you from having the confidence to get on the gas earlier? was the front unsettled when turning in fast? were you chasing someone quick and it made you charge corners? in the corner you crashed on, do you think you would be able to make your turn-in happen faster? that way you can get down quicker which means you can get on the gas sooner? i know trailing into the turn makes it feel smoother coming down but you're just robbing yourself of time on the throttle when you wait all the way to the apex to get back on it. and trailing in that far really puts a lot of strain on the front end. typically, once you are all the way leaned over and wide open, it's pretty hard to lose the front from underweighting it. i have wheelied out of corners on the 636 more times than i would have cared to. overweighting it with too much brakes, or simply not enough gas though.... now we're talking lowside material

[cbinker]

The next session I went out, i was going through a double left and the front slipped again. Not sure how I did not low side there, but i kept it up.

[ninja2007]

Found these today...

http://bluecollarbobbers.com/product...s#.VA8JM2Oa8vo

Supposed to lift the rear an inch to inch and a half. Anything cheaper out there? $96 is a bit more than spending money...

Zach

[bitaria]

Not aware of anything, but it's a simple part, so my solution is to make them.

If there is enough interest I can make more than one set. I would need eye to eye length you'd want.

Originally Posted by ninja2007

Found these today...

http://bluecollarbobbers.com/product...s#.VA8JM2Oa8vo

Supposed to lift the rear an inch to inch and a half. Anything cheaper out there? $96 is a bit more than spending money...

Zach

[Bigballsofpaint]

I cant recall the site off hand but theres another guy who makes them in different lengths for like 20 bucks. I got the 1.25 lift since i bought the gsxr shock since everyone claimed it lowers the rear by an inch. I surely have more than a .25 lift on it, im going to raise my front .25 or .5 since the front feels a bit twichy at low speeds.

[bitaria]

Originally Posted by Bigballsofpaint

I cant recall the site off hand but theres another guy who makes them in different lengths for like 20 bucks. I got the 1.25 lift since i bought the gsxr shock since everyone claimed it lowers the rear by an inch. I surely have more than a .25 lift on it, im going to raise my front .25 or .5 since the front feels a bit twichy at low speeds.

You'd almost want to have some links made in several sizes and try some different options to see what works. Unfortunately changing links is more work than adjusting ride height in a premium shock.

[Bigballsofpaint]

But 20 minutes of my time is worth not spending the addition $500+ to me. Im not going to race, just do track days. I think raising my front the little extra will help, the bike felt great at my last track day anyway. I should have went with a 1.00 raise, but i wont complain about the additional height since im tall and that gives me alittle more clearance.

[ninja2007]

I'd be curious who does them for $20...

Namely I'm not sure what length center to center to ask for to get the lift.

Zach

[cbinker]

@Rexbo made mine, maybe he can give you the specs and you can ask a local machine shop to take care of it.

[cbinker]

Originally Posted by alex.s

i'm curious what you felt that led you to believe there wasn't enough weight on the front? when did you feel this? did the bars start to get loose after turn-in but before pickup? ie pushing the front? are you getting understeer during turn-in while wide open? are you pushing the front out during wide open pickup?

after further investigation and pondering, i am about 99% sure that my faulty tire gauge was the culprit. My tire pressure was 5 pounds high in the front.