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November 29th, 2014, 03:44 AM | #83 |
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Before paying anything i would go to the court house and talk to the city attorney and see if they are willing to reduce the charge to something lower with a good reasonable explanation of what happened, most times you can have the charge reduced to something less severe and lower point and cost value.
If your able to come to an agreement to something lower you'll just go into court and plead guilty to the lesser charge. |
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November 29th, 2014, 07:08 AM | #84 |
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Please start a new thread when you pay or go to court.
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November 29th, 2014, 07:40 AM | #85 |
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When I went to traffic school a few months ago, I was told for every ticket the courts are to offer a "program". But, this is Ohio. You can always call and ask or ask the judge. Good luck.
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November 29th, 2014, 07:43 AM | #86 |
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Your only saving grace might be going to court hoping that the cop won't show up. If they don't show up, your case is typically dismissed.
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November 29th, 2014, 07:57 AM | #87 |
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You clearly are an inconsiderate prick aren't you? Maybe its time for you to grow up, yah know cause life is not a fairy tail.
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November 29th, 2014, 09:18 AM | #89 |
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I like how he posts on the forum on asking for help, and half the people commenting are calling him an idiot, etc.
Yeah... and people call me the hostile one...
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November 29th, 2014, 09:27 AM | #90 |
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I think that they are trying to help, but he seems to be on a very self destructive path. I do feel bad for him as it sounds like a speeding ticket is the least of his problems, but his view of life and the world isn't helping his situation any.
Like Cbinker said, life isn't a fairy tale.
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November 29th, 2014, 09:40 AM | #91 |
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@ninjamunky85: If you read through all of @cbinker's posts in this thread, you'll see that he can't even produce a valid English sentence let alone a well reasoned argument to back his perspective.
He's just throwing sh*t in Corksil's direction and hoping something will stick. It's extremely unconstructive and not at all in the spirit of this forum. Whether or not cbinker, or any of us think Corksil has been unwise in his actions, does not change the fact that Corksil is in a hard situation. The common thing bikers do for each other when they see someone in a bad situation, is they pull over and offer them a hand. If you think Corksil has made a mistake, please make your case with a bit more empathy and a bit more rationality. If you don't want to help, then go and contribute to one of the dozens of other active threads in this forum. |
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They want/need your money. If you can prove that you are unable to produce that money, then you become a problem that they do not want: maybe to send you to jail, to impound the bike, etc. Easier to collect some money from you than going those more difficult for them roads. The judge is callous about the typical arguments, like the radar pistol was defective, the cop was irrational, my speed was less, etc. I wouldn't use the no-motorcycle-tracks-in-Maui argument, because that will induce the judge to think that you believe that speeding on an empty road is OK and that you will do it again. His job is enforcing the laws and those laws don't have exceptions for light traffic conditions or time of the day/night. Be brief, be assertive, expose your actual financial situation without drama, just with facts. If you can stand in front of that police officer and judge with a clear mind, empty of negative beliefs and emotions, you may have a chance to reduce the damage. Remember, they are the fishermen, you are the fish. Once again, best luck, my friend! I fully agree with Skullz's post: Quote:
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November 29th, 2014, 10:06 AM | #94 | |
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You complain about people making "rules" that are not best for our interest. Well, guess what? If you don't like it, no one is putting a knife by your neck. You can always choose where to live. You can do a little research about different governments in different countries and find a geographic location somewhere in the world that have the rules and regulations that best suits your personal lifestyle. Love to drive/ride fast? Move to an area with an unlimited speed limit (I believe there are States with that law). Love to visit the doctors? Move to a place where healthcare won't bankrupt you. Everything is give and take in life. You chose to live in Maui. You chose to have your hauling business. It was your choice to pay for the trailer fee to use the roads to operate a business. All these are choices you've made all on your own. And unfortunately, on that day, you chose to ride 74 in a 45mph zone...and got caught. When you applied for your driver's/motorcycle's license, you know damn well that operating a vehicle is a privilege. You have to jump through many hoops to get that license. And you knew damn well that there will be rules and laws on the road that you must follow. Sometimes we break those rules and nothing happens. Other times, we get unlucky and we feel the pain of handing out that hard earned cash we've saved up to pay for a decision that we made. But again, it was your choice. It's one thing if there was an imminent danger, and you had to go that fast to avoid it. But it's another thing to just unleash the adrenaline for your enjoyment. Ask yourself this question. That's a 45mph limit road. How would you feel if everyone was moving along at 74mph on that particular road? As you're riding, someone is behind you doing 74mph. And traffic on the other side of the road is coming at 74mph. Would you feel safe on a daily basis if everyone is moving along at 74mph on that particular road? I have no advice for beating the system. Unless you have an extremely valid excuse for doing 29mph over the limit, you most likely will have to pay up in court. The only valid excuse I can think of is speeding because of a safety reason (i.e. a person behind you starts honking and flashing you while tailgating you....as you look in the mirror, you see them waving your off the road....and you realized that all his brakes failed and he's telling you to move out of the way....and you had to speed up to get out of his way). I was once young and retarded. I was in MD and there was crazy traffic along a stretch of the highway. People started driving on the shoulder as traffic wasn't moving. So....I followed along on the shoulder. What do you know???? A trooper was ahead and pulled all 10 of us over. We all got tickets. I was 18 at the time and my auto insurance was over $3,000 for liability alone. I knew I was going to get butthurt if I get any more points. What did I do? I got out of my car and deflated my tire when the trooper was giving out tickets one by one. I was near the end. I still got the ticket. But the officer noted down that I had a flat tire. When I was at court, I showed the judge a receipt for the tire I bought. And the ticket was dismissed. So.....point of my retarded ramblings??? Unless you have a valid excuse as to why you broke a certain law, you're not going to get off the hook because the gov't is money hungry. Sorry man. |
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November 29th, 2014, 10:23 AM | #95 | |
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November 29th, 2014, 10:58 AM | #98 | |
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November 29th, 2014, 11:14 AM | #99 | |
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I found this. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ma...95140939985482 That should be somewhat doable for you. Also, another option (cheaper) is cart tracks. 250's can be taken to cart tracks if the owner allows. If not, put your effort into helping facilitate that access. As much as a vacation spot as it is, there should be one or two that you can contact and plant seeds. Speed is relative sir, 50mph in a corner should feel just as exhilarating as 90+ in a straight. Either way, it looks as if the facility above can satisfy both needs. Bottom line, it's a pay to play system. Pay to ride the courses or pay to break the rules on the street. And... get a dirt bike! I wanna see some video of those dirt courses they have set up at that location. I challenge you to find positive in your aggression, set the lap record for a 250 on this little track and recruit others to come along for the good times. From what I see, you're missing out on a option to lead, rather than blaze a trail into the unwanted. Be a positive force!
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November 29th, 2014, 11:51 AM | #100 |
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good find Chris.
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Everybody has issues, none of those issues absolve them of responsibility for their actions. I screwed something up four years ago. The Feds slapped me for it, and four years later I'm still feeling the sting. Nobody was endangered by what I did, but I broke the rule, so I paid the price. My case was even more "unfair" than yours because what I did was an honest mistake, at least you got to make a conscious decision to break the rule. It was nobodies fault but mine, the truth sucks doesn't it. |
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November 29th, 2014, 11:41 PM | #103 |
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November 30th, 2014, 12:39 PM | #104 |
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I don't think you understand hell very well. Unless you are someone I don't think you are, you will have no authority there, and you and your fellow residents will be in so much agony, retribution will be the last thing on your mind.
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November 30th, 2014, 01:21 PM | #105 |
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Speaking from personal experiences here but I have racked up all kinds of different charges against me (my latest ones are double unregistered vehicles but that's a different story). Prosecutors want to deal with as little people as possible. The officers are getting paid OT to show up to court. The judges, receptionists, etc etc all are getting paid. At some point it'll cost more to try everyone than the revenue the fines bring in so they'll cut deals with as many as they can to get you in and out. I don't know about HI but I've had deals cut before to take points away from a sentence. Just pay an exorbitant fee of $500, plead guilty, along with the fine itself. It all depends on what you deem as worthy to you. I personally had to put on an act and story for the judge to get 2 tickets thrown out but it's very possible especially if you play the part and are a first time offender.
Like others said, don't plead guilty. Have receipts for whatever you needed that day to fix your truck along with papers for the contract work you're doing. Wear a suit but nothing fancy. But make it look worn and old. You want to look like you're barely making ends meet like you said but still had enough respect to show up in one. Since you been living without nourishment for a while, you should be fine if you look a little homeless. I certainly hope you aren't overweight cause that doesn't speak volumes about living below your means. With the look down, the paperwork in hand, and maybe a tear in your eye, the judge should cut you some major slack. Good luck! If all else fails, just man up and pay the fine. |
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November 30th, 2014, 03:56 PM | #106 | |
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November 30th, 2014, 06:25 PM | #108 |
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so you read it in a book or someone told you?
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November 30th, 2014, 06:45 PM | #109 |
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way too off topic here, not a discussion I'm even gonna get involved in
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November 30th, 2014, 08:12 PM | #110 |
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November 30th, 2014, 08:21 PM | #111 |
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keep religion out of it.
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November 30th, 2014, 11:08 PM | #116 |
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We need an officer on this site for threads like this
if I were the ticketing officer I wouldn't give a flying **** what your bills are just that you broke a law that you clearly knew you were breaking whether you agree with it or not. good luck though
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November 30th, 2014, 11:25 PM | #117 |
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I'd also recommend losing the "I'm a small business owner so the government owes me something" mentality. The majority of your state's and county's operating budgets are likely paid for by property taxes, corporate taxes, sales taxes, and revenue (like tickets).
I don't feel like the internet owes me anything for building web software.
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November 30th, 2014, 11:31 PM | #118 |
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[sarcasm]I think you should totally go for the "I pay your salary" line. Works every time.[/sarcasm]
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