June 26th, 2014, 07:18 PM | #121 |
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Bad News: So he promises yesterday he'll send out my 31BLK kit for the Ninja 250R first thing in the morning and provide me with tracking #. I gave him all day. It's currently 7:15PM PST and no tracking #. I'm not surprised. Good News: I have opened up a dispute case with my credit card company and they will send me forms to fill out. Thanks everyone for suggesting I do so and I should've done this long ago. 31BLK Kawasaki Ninja 250 Mod Kit http://www.31blk.com Joshua Brasse Ideacious Inc. 1.416.827.6518 jbrasse@ideacious.com ^making sure anyone does a Google search will stumble upon this thread. |
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June 26th, 2014, 07:55 PM | #122 |
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Sucks man. I've been there too. At this point I wouldn't even want it.
Hope you get the money. |
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June 26th, 2014, 08:02 PM | #123 | |
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Here's our post just 10 minutes ago on Hypebeast where there's already 4,000 views on the 31BLK article......... and now we wait! |
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June 26th, 2014, 08:12 PM | #124 |
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This is exactly what I would be worried about now. Think about it. It sounds like this scumbag doesn't even have a product in production. What if he whips all this **** together just to get a product to you, makes it look good, and the whole thing falls to pieces when you sit on it? or 100 miles down the road? or 6 months? $1700 is a lot of dough for ****
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June 26th, 2014, 08:24 PM | #125 | |
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June 26th, 2014, 09:54 PM | #126 |
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Whatever man, get your money back. There are a lot of awesome things you can buy for $1,700. Hell, you could buy another complete ninja 250 for 1,700.
No offense but the kit doesn't even look good, It gets points for being different, and that's it. I would definitely be completely happy with the money.
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June 26th, 2014, 11:56 PM | #127 |
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-well I it doesn't work out - set the 1700 aside for carbon fiber and a few sheets of steel r aluminum. All the time you spent messing around you could easily have made your own from raw materials
I would live to buy some materials and make a kit. A look like his kit would be easily achievable and better looking wouldn't be hard either
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June 27th, 2014, 12:39 AM | #128 | ||
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My take on it is that he is short on money or mismanaged it and is back ordered. So what he does is take people's money to make more kits so he can fill the previous orders. This happened with another company that was doing custom mods. This is assuming people bought his kit. I'm probably the only person dumb enough to buy it. |
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June 27th, 2014, 12:47 AM | #129 |
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I wish I knew how to work with CF or i'd make one and would've never ordered his.
Watch some you tube videos ! If you lived near me I would help you prototype your own kit. I used to be too busy to work on projects - now I have nothing but time. My take on it is that he is short on money or mismanaged it and is back ordered. So what he does is take people's money to make more kits so he can fill the previous orders. This happened with another company that was doing custom mods. This is assuming people bought his kit. I'm probably the only person dumb enough to buy it. [/QUOTE] - after looking at his websites, reviews and other odds and ends He likes to market other people's ideas, sell per buy on products that will never reach production and create an illusion that he is running a large company that has massive manufacturing assets He probably drew up that kit on some software, had a friend blast it out using water jets or plasma cutter or whatever people are using these days Slapped it together and hope it would explode. He has thousands of products and none have been marketed , sold or manufactured in sufficient quantities He is trying to make it big as and inventor designer business person but is living off of other people's invested capital but not getting any of his ideas off the ground. Some of his products look awesome but he should stop crowd sourcing his capital in small increments stealing a little from many people and just get an investor with major capital to get his most marketable product up and sustaining business It's a mess.
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June 27th, 2014, 12:55 AM | #130 |
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I totally agree. His 31BLK kit is drawing attention on the Internet. Although the price is steep people like me are willing to pay for something different. I don't see how he'll make it into the larger bike market if his business approach is totally farked.
Damn, too bad you don't live near me or I'd work with ya on making a kit. Sounds like fun. |
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June 27th, 2014, 01:11 AM | #131 | |
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I would help build a kit next time I am in NY AND have access to my shop
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June 27th, 2014, 02:31 AM | #132 |
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June 27th, 2014, 05:54 AM | #133 |
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From the start I thought the price for this kit was outrageous. I just don't understand how you ask 1700 for next to nothing.
There is nothing on this kit that I feel you or someone else could not do better for cheaper even if you have to outsource some of the work. Various types of sheet metal/alloys are easy to work with and the work can be done with basic tools. That is probably where I would start for prototyping stuff up. keep us posted.
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June 27th, 2014, 11:09 AM | #134 | |
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Anyone want to make up some photo shop on their idea of what would be a better kit. I think across the board everyone would keep the head lights - the rest of the kit is lame as hell - oh you are a west coaster - cannot help you there. My friend keeps asking me to move to Nor Cal and go into business with him…. but I have no shop and no tools and thats a big relocation for me. who knows though - I am getting tired of the east coast.
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June 27th, 2014, 11:48 AM | #135 |
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I might just take that route on my bigger bike. I'd definitely make up a better design. Agreed, the gullwing headlights is the big draw on the design. The fairings I'm a bit on the fence with that. Doesn't seem practical on the freeway and seems like it would catch a lot of wind.
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June 27th, 2014, 04:42 PM | #136 |
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UPDATE: Joshua Brasse called me today and he was being professional over the phone. We spoke for a brief 15 minutes. The kit has been shipped and I am able to track it from Canada post. Once I receive the kit I will do a brief review of the packaging and quality as well as update my posts on all the sites.
I honestly think if I played the nice guy it would've been delayed longer. Thanks everyone for advising to stop being so understanding and nice. |
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June 27th, 2014, 05:04 PM | #137 | |
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Let's just hope that his workmanship isn't reflective of his business practice. Even if the product is amazing, when you write your review, you mention the frustration of dealing with him, call him nice, but also mention he is extremely unprofessional.
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June 27th, 2014, 05:08 PM | #138 | |
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But I am glad he is coming through even if it had to be the HARD way! Looking forward to hearing about the quality and all that
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June 27th, 2014, 05:45 PM | #140 | |
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June 27th, 2014, 06:12 PM | #141 | |
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I have worked construction, mamnufacturing and custom work. I have yet to meet a custom shop, welder, CNC, or manufacturer who could not resolve any issue I have presented them with in a less than a couple days. Unless the kit is made from rare materials using a process that is inaccessible I would just assume it is negligence. No titanium and it doesn't require MRI imaging. its literally all items that can be made by any fab shop if you have a good relationship with them. I don't know if any of the parts are injection molded or 3d printed. But once you have made one kit. The next should be easier. - I am still a bit jelly of his website and business model. If it didn't seem sketchy I would be applying to work for his out fit! lol oh well
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June 28th, 2014, 03:21 AM | #142 |
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Glad you are getting some progress with this order.
The only thing i like about his kit is the headlight. If your order works out i would get the headlights and use them on a strip bike. |
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June 28th, 2014, 09:31 AM | #143 | |
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June 28th, 2014, 11:14 AM | #144 |
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I could have mined the ore, smelted the iron shipped the items to the sun for heat treating and installed it in the amount of time this has been delayed. I hope your enjoy riding your apache helicopter around when its done.
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June 28th, 2014, 11:49 AM | #145 | ||
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1.) Canada post hasn't scanned and updated it into their system. 2.) Joshua Brasse is trying to pull a fast one and only created the waybill but haven't dropped it off to Canada post. Picture of tracking status below. |
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June 28th, 2014, 11:55 AM | #146 |
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Ok ,so I got time to redesign the kit to fit the space shuttle to NASA specs while you get delivery...
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June 28th, 2014, 02:00 PM | #147 | |
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everything in this process i so familiar to me. I called him once and talked to him several months ago. I was so pissed off, but somehow when we had talked, I felt that he was a stand up guy, working hard to resolve everything. We should all have done what NinjaZX6R123 is doing now. At least we would have seen his true colors months ago. My guess is that he has either pulled some stunt with the shipping label or he is going to make something go wrong to buy more time. Dont forget that he owes at least 6-8k to the people that ordered my design from his site. He probably doesn't even have money to have this kit done by a proper workshop if it is not already done. He also still have no problem putting new things on the site, but when I ask him to remove my design, then all of a sudden there are very complex programming and legal complications in the way. What I can say from my experience with this guy is: the people who have pressed him hardest, have got the most refund money back. The nicest and most patient ones has got zero of their money back. don't let him get away! |
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June 28th, 2014, 02:29 PM | #148 | |
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I won't. By Monday if I don't see any progress in the shipping tracking I will know he pulled some stunt. I will then move forward with my credit card claim report. So either away, I will make sure I'm either getting the kit or my money back. I live in California, it's not too far from Canada and I have friends up there. So if he rips me off, I'll pay him a visit to talk to him face to face. |
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June 28th, 2014, 03:21 PM | #150 |
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This Joshua Brasse should slightly change his last name by removing the letters Br & e for what you would have left is Ass and that is what this guy totally is a giant one with all his delays and bull crap excuses.
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June 28th, 2014, 10:29 PM | #151 | |
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He should've taken my order seriously and sent it to me in a reasonable amount of time. I'd be posting positive reviews all over the Internet about it. I'm not convinced 100% he sent me the kit until it's physically in my hands. Canada post has no update on the tracking, but then again, Canada post is known for their poor updates on tracking. So we'll see. |
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June 29th, 2014, 10:00 AM | #152 |
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I would have given till mid week to drop the hammer on him, but i can certainly see why your wanting something confirmed as being shipped.
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June 29th, 2014, 07:11 PM | #153 | |
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And it's Canada Day on Tuesday, but some will take it on Monday, so that could play a lot on your delivery... |
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June 30th, 2014, 10:21 AM | #155 |
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Well this is good news.
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June 30th, 2014, 11:06 AM | #156 |
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It's a start. Now that you know he shipped those parts, you can relax a bit. I don't think that Canada Post works on Canada Day so you won't see much change tomorrow[I think so], same goes with when it's going through customs and is handed over to USPS[I think].
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June 30th, 2014, 11:39 AM | #157 | |
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Now hopefully once the kit arrives the quality will be good enough to withstand freeway riding. |
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June 30th, 2014, 11:48 AM | #158 | |
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Once I get relatively good ar riding I might look at getting one of those Lent kits. But that's for later. One thing still puzzles me, why didn't this guy go for expedited shipping with another carrier[ prolly saving some money there too]. Nyhoo good luck mate. Keep us posted.
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June 30th, 2014, 12:10 PM | #159 | |
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Right? Expedited shipping? He said he upgraded the shipping but when I checked it was the cheapest shipping for Canada post. He does have it set to USPS priority mail once in the U.S. I'm not going to complain about the shipping, just glad something is being shipped. Hopefully when I receive the package, there's actually a kit inside. lol |
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June 30th, 2014, 12:15 PM | #160 |
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Probably just a sticker and a receipt in a box full of packing peanuts.
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