August 8th, 2016, 04:07 PM | #121 |
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I've gotten cheap tires from here: http://www.americanmototire.com/catalog/index.php
I'll also give another vote for the Pilot Street Radial. Initial cost is more but more economical in the long run.
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August 8th, 2016, 04:08 PM | #122 |
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BUT, don't give up. You'll get there. Just listen to all the advise you get here. Most of us know what we're talking about anyway... If someone can confirm the newgen 250 and 300 swing arms are the same you could run a 160/60. ONLY if someone can confirm that. I have not do the research on it yet. I loved that size. With a 120/60 front. Anywho. Good luck and be safe.
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August 8th, 2016, 05:35 PM | #127 |
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Forgive me, but are you measuring the width or the depth? How much of a penny (or a dime, or any small circular object of your choice) can you put in that divot, and how much still shows? It looks way more than 2-3mm deep, but it's hard to tell with an unfocused picture showing a portion of the inch side of the measuring tape. Also, I doubt that it is a completely consistent depth all the way around the tire. As the rear suspension compresses and extends while riding over bumps and different surfaces, a different portion of the tire will be interfering with the swingarm at different times. A significant bump/extension might cause it to be deeper at a specific point, which is exactly what you don't want if you're trying to keep the tire from, well, completely failing.
All that said - there is no legitimate debate at this point. The tire is significantly compromised. You have no idea how it would behave when leaned over and significant side forces are applied to the tread that you've now split in half. Looking at the static picture of how close the tire is to the swingarm, this should have been obvious before putting any miles on the tire. To be fair, I would have hoped the shop would have pointed out that this wasn't a particularly good idea. But they deal with customers all day who want silly things done, and you'd already bought the tire, so they squeezed it on and called it a day.
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August 8th, 2016, 05:56 PM | #128 | |
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August 8th, 2016, 05:57 PM | #129 |
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No, I was talking about the depth. The way you were holding the measuring tape made me wonder what you were measuring.
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August 8th, 2016, 06:05 PM | #131 |
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August 8th, 2016, 06:10 PM | #132 |
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August 8th, 2016, 06:21 PM | #133 |
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Seriously, you have someone willing to sell you a set (pair) of really good tires known to fit for $100 and even a local offer.
I'd be jumping on that like a pig into mud.
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August 8th, 2016, 06:53 PM | #134 | |
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August 8th, 2016, 06:58 PM | #135 |
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So my friend just informed me that Walmart will put a new tire on the rim for you for $5 a tire... O_o then all I would have to do is get someone to balance it. Much cheaper option..
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August 8th, 2016, 07:05 PM | #136 |
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Again the problem is I would have to pay cash rather than a credit card. :-/ broke people problems
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He Said he would pay the guy cash and let you pay him paypal, if the other guy wouldn't do paypal
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Do they have a motorcycle tire mount? Or were they talking about car tires?
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August 9th, 2016, 02:31 AM | #141 |
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I think motorcycle tires. My friend worked there said that's where he brought his bike tires into be mounted then balanced it himself. I'm assuming they are kind of the same? I don't think my bike wheels are much larger rim size then my car. Yeah they are skinnier, but you get someone who knows how to properly use a machine, I don't think it's son issue. Even if they don't bead it, that parts easy.
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If you can get the new tire by this weekend, you can have it changed for $20 at Putnam by people who do it for riders going 150mph, ie they know wtf they are doing. Plus you can hang out for a bit and watch. It don't cost anything to get in, just your sig on the release form at the gate.
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Regarding having your tires mounted... A friend of mine from high school is a gearhead and worked at a tire shop. They do a lot of tractors and big trucks and stuff besides just passenger vehicles, but it's strictly a tire shop, as opposed to a garage that does tire work. I asked if he could do it, and he said he could, but if it were his bike he'd take it to an actual bike shop who had the setup for bike wheels.
So while anyone with the stuff to change a car tire may be able to, don't necessarily expect them to be familiar with bike tires. You may or may not have good results trusting a Walmart guy who can manage to install car tires. Keep in mind the results you got from an actual bike shop, and extrapolate that to someone who knows even less about bikes.
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August 9th, 2016, 11:50 AM | #154 |
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I do all of my own bike tires with minimal tools. Although I did spend a little cash for a small wheel holder/stand that has a lever for breaking the bead recently and it was worth every penny.
For you to change your own tire you would have to spend at least $20 for a cheap set of spoons, a few bucks for some weights, another $10 for some rim protectors and then find some creative way to break the bead that isn't a complete PITA and then actually mount the tire on the wheel. At the end of the day you would be out $35 in tools, your rim looking way worse than it already does, you'd have bloody knuckles and the tire still not mounted on the rim. Get a friend who is capable and already has everything to do it for you or take it into a shop to get mounted and balanced. There is a learning curve for changing tires and even then it is not the easiest thing to do.
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Ha, well, it's really not as hard as you think. The biggest trick is to keep the tire beads in the "drop center" section. That is, the part of the rim in the center, where the spokes are, where the diameter is smaller. If you keep the beads there, there's plenty of slack to get the tire over the rim edge in one area, and once you have that, you're pretty much home free. I usually have to stand on the tire with both feet to keep the beads together, and work on the bead across from where I'm standing.
If you let the beads spread and get out of the drop center, you will have the fight of your life, and have all the rim scars and bloody knuckles you described. You also need to lube the edge of the tire, inside and out, with something slippery. I use a thin coat of undiluted dish detergent, but dedicated mounting lubes are really best. For breaking the bead, there are many ways, including using the base of an old style car bumper jack, but I got a slide hammer bead breaker, and it makes quick work of everthing from motorcycle tires to the huge tires on my Ford 4000 tractor. If you don't like the price of this great tool, get someone to give it to you for Christmas. The bead breaker: |
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Very true. All it takes is a couple short pieces of 2x4 to keep the edge of the rim and the disk off the garage floor.
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If so, then yes, it is not very hard in theory and I don't think it is hard as long as you have the right tools, some experience and know what you are doing. But for someone trying to change their own tire for the first time with next to no specific tools for the task, no experience other than watching some videos then yes it is going to be difficult for them I find street tubeless tires to be quite quick and easy especially compared to mx bikes & tires with tubes and wheel locks
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