Pre-Gen Tire Hugger

[CZroe]

Front end wouldn't be a simple swap.

[choneofakind]

It wouldn't? How different are the head bearings? Couldn't you just swap triples along with the forks? I'm no expert in this area

[cerberusrex25]

Originally Posted by CZroe

Attachment 8765

This is sooooooo hot, Too bad it eliminates the taillights and renders it race only.

[choneofakind]

http://www.aerostich.com/stopper-led...rsa-light.html

You could do one of these on both top and bottom of the license plate. I know it's awfully minimalist, but if you wired some red LED's on the passenger pegs also, you would be mostly legal.

It looks like he did something like that in this picture

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/attac...achmentid=8765

there's one red bar above his plate. I would assume that's his brake light

[cerberusrex25]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

http://www.aerostich.com/stopper-led...rsa-light.html

You could do one of these on both top and bottom of the license plate. I know it's awfully minimalist, but if you wired some red LED's on the passenger pegs also, you would be mostly legal.

It looks like he did something like that in this picture

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/attac...achmentid=8765

there's one red bar above his plate. I would assume that's his brake light

I actually love clean and minimalistic. I am already thinking of buying another pregen to experiment with. Glad ius winter and I kinda wanna do modding ,fab and general motorcycle mechanics for a living.

[choneofakind]

Go for it! you could be the guinea pig for every "can this be done to a pregen?" question.

[cerberusrex25]

I dont mind being an innovator, although this time I didn't do it first just perfected it LOL.

what about these for an udertail set of pipes:

http://www.yoshimura-rd.com/t-replac...spx?imsec=road

[CZroe]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

It wouldn't? How different are the head bearings? Couldn't you just swap triples along with the forks? I'm no expert in this area

I'm making an assumption. If they were easily compatible, I figure I'd see a lot of switches after crashes considering how often forks get tweaked.

Originally Posted by cerberusrex25

This is sooooooo hot, Too bad it eliminates the taillights and renders it race only.

I'm pretty sure that strip above the plate has integrated LED signals and brake light. I mean, why else have the license plate? :P

[choneofakind]

Those pipes are sweet. heck yes.

[choneofakind]

bump on this thread. I just ordered an OEM hugger for the 2011 CBR250R. I know it fits the new-gen bike, and I've been told the swingarm on the new-gen is only a touch wider than the pregen.

I will post up my results on if it fits well or not, along with pictures eventually. if not, it was only $24 including shipping

I just hope that it gets here before I have to go back to school, or else my DIY will have to wait till spring break

[Ninja Nut]

Originally Posted by cerberusrex25

This is sooooooo hot, Too bad it eliminates the taillights and renders it race only.

Looks like it still has lights to me.

[cerberusrex25]

It does, I noticed later but never cared to edit my original post. I still want to see about getting me that undertail exhaust, I wonder how much would it be for a custom job like that?

[choneofakind]

when I took apart my bike for my uni trak service and swingarm service, I played around with the exhaust a little bit.

I came to the conclusion that the Ducati 250R guy must have just gotten rid of the tail fender completely, and then just routed the exhaust up there. If you could find a pipe bender and made some mock-ups on your bike with flexible plastic tubing, you could get a set of two brothers slipons, then make your own mid pipes based on the mock-ups. All you would need is to mount the two mufflers off the frame right under the seat and go from there.

You could get a pair of any brand cheap exhaust slip-ons for that matter (DanMoto could look cool), and then just bend the pipes on your own, and get them coated. It would look sweet. There's plenty of space under there once you take off the fender and get rid of the tail light.

Personally, I think a high-mount system would look cooler than the undertail. Same idea with making your own mid-pipes, and then mount them off the frame, only the high-rise system would keep the storage area.

plus you seem to be good at doing fabrication work on your own. If you could find a secure way of mounting the cans and a good way to bend the pipes, you could do it for the price of parts and whatever finish you wanted on the mid-pipes

[choneofakind]

Bump on this one more time. My apologies, my hugger still hasn't gotten delivered to my house even though it was expected to be delivered by 1/6/12

Long story short, my possible pre-gen hugger installation DIY will have to wait until my spring break, which is the first week of March.

Sorry guys.

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My hugger got delivered today (1/11/12) at my house! Spring break can't come soon enough!!
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[Tony B]

Just tossing an idea into the melting pot : anyone thought about using a spare front mudguard to fab their own hugger .......... ? If not using it, then at least it would be a good start for a mould

[choneofakind]

It's not wide enough to fit over a 130 rear. Especially because the BT45 and the sport demon are both 138mm wide. It's also meant to hug the front tire which is a smaller diameter than the rear.

[Tony B]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

It's not wide enough to fit over a 130 rear. Especially because the BT45 and the sport demon are both 138mm wide. It's also meant to hug the front tire which is a smaller diameter than the rear.

Good point ! I double checked this with a spare wheel and front mudguard, (tyre was something obscure - can't remember what). Yes, fits tight.

Might still be a starting point to use as a former for a mould though, just have to make sure you use a couple of layers OVER the front 'guard to ensure it ends up big enough.

Alternatively, if you prefer steel, perhaps a trailer 'guard might be the answer. On the custom forums, the guys often use these, especially on trike builds. Just need to use your imagination, and there's nothing better than the satisfaction of making a one-off item rather than buying something off the shelf.

[choneofakind]

True, but after some inspection of the pictures my mom sent me of my CBR250 hugger, that looks like it should fit. It only has the swingarm fattener on one side, so that there's no issues with the hugger needing to be trimmed for the side with the brake like the newgen guys do with the Byson hugger.

Plus it was only $24 shipped, and I can take satisfaction in having something that I was creative enough to make work and looks OEM and was still not expensive. Assuming I can get it to work that is...

I just want a hugger that will keep my shock clean, and looks like it belongs on the bike. yeah one from a trailer would do the former, but IMHO, not the latter. They look right on a trike, but the 250 is no trike

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would it be possible to heat a spare front fender up a little and make it wider so that it would fit over the back wheel? I'm not sure if that's how ABS plastic works or not...
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[Tony B]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

True, but after some inspection of the pictures my mom sent me of my CBR250 hugger, that looks like it should fit. It only has the swingarm fattener on one side, so that there's no issues with the hugger needing to be trimmed for the side with the brake like the newgen guys do with the Byson hugger.

Plus it was only $24 shipped, and I can take satisfaction in having something that I was creative enough to make work and looks OEM and was still not expensive. Assuming I can get it to work that is...

I just want a hugger that will keep my shock clean, and looks like it belongs on the bike. yeah one from a trailer would do the former, but IMHO, not the latter. They look right on a trike, but the 250 is no trike

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would it be possible to heat a spare front fender up a little and make it wider so that it would fit over the back wheel? I'm not sure if that's how ABS plastic works or not...
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Ah, who's going to be the first on this forum to trike a Ninjette ?

I don't think heating ABS type plastic will work. It's injection moulded and very stiff. Also, it's got those tube shapes for the forks, so actually, come to think of it, my idea was pretty crap !

Yes, adapting something from another machine that does the job, and, looks good, is a great idea

[choneofakind]

TRIKE NINJETTE!!!

actually, you likely could get a front fender to work still. The rounded parts for the forks could likely sit on the swingarm. Hack off the back half of the front fender and find some way to mount it?

If it was far enough forward, it might clear the wheel, and if you trimmed it like this



which i got from this thread

It might make it around the back wheel without touching. It would be worth it to give it a try if you have an old/cheap front fender running around loose

[Tony B]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

TRIKE NINJETTE!!!

actually, you likely could get a front fender to work still. The rounded parts for the forks could likely sit on the swingarm. Hack off the back half of the front fender and find some way to mount it?

If it was far enough forward, it might clear the wheel, and if you trimmed it like this



which i got from this thread

It might make it around the back wheel without touching. It would be worth it to give it a try if you have an old/cheap front fender running around loose

Hmm, nice. I might just have a 'play' .........

[choneofakind]

Play. Post results. I know I'm being a hypocrite in that statement since I have yet to try the CBR hugger, but that's because the hugger is in the 3-3-0, and I'm in the A-D-A

[cerberusrex25]

I want that Muzzy exhaust, is drooltastic!!!!

[choneofakind]

Bump on this thread, with my post from this thread:
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111255

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Hmmm, I just got it to work, no contact issues, no nothing like that. I apparently was full of tartar sauce when I did it last time and didn't have the can on right or something...

I took plenty of pictures to show you where I trimmed the undertail. I think we'll be able to get yours installed without clearance issues yet!!! (idk for sure though, I have my tail raised a lot which helps. I'll see about getting all these pictures up in a decent time.)

EDIT TO ADD SOME PICTURES FOR @Monkeytofu:

I started by cutting down the chain guard a little:


Then I made cuts for the tabs on the swingarm. They are on the right and left corners of the front of the hugger:



Then I hacked off the bottom of the front mounting tab. I cut that a bit, and used JB Weld to connect the tab to the hugger. I worked for me, even after riding for 130+ miles with it



Then I made a little bracket for the back. To attach the hugger to the bracket, I needed a screw, a nut for the back, and a washer, because the hole was bigger than the head of the screw that I chose. The bracket attaches nicely to the swingarm using the stock bolt:


I also trimmed my undertail drastically. I think this is the step you need to make to gain some more clearance and stop rubbing the top of it at least. My tail is also raised, which helps I think. This shot shows the general line that I followed. I think I could have taken more off that corner on the left, but meh:


For the right side, I used the stock holder for the brake line and drilled a hole in it. I used a ziptie to connect the hugger to the modded brake line thingy. I think I will make a long bracket in the future that will go from the torque link to the modded brake line thingy so that it doesn't shift forward and make the hugger off-center like it does now. The bracket will only be to stop the modded brake thing from moving; the modded brake holder will actually hold the hugger:


The front mounting hole on the tab lines right up with the stock mounting point:


Here you can see that the hugger sits just in front of the cross-member of the swingarm when installed like this. I hope that this means it will drip down onto the wheel, and not onto the swingarm:


and here's what it looks like installed. Pardon the dirt, the ride I went on was a little wet and threw some dirt everywhere:





damn that was pic-heavy. I think in the winter, I will trim off the portion at the rear end of the faux-swingarm thing so it doesn't stick out quite so bad. I might also get some krylon flat black paint for plastic and get it a fresh coat of black, because it gets scuffed up easily as you can see. There's little scuff marks all over it from when I bumped it into things on the bike like the plate, or the undertail, etc

I'm still debating on getting matching lime green paint from colorrite and masking off the hugger part and painting it. But I'm not really good at paint, so I likely won't go green, because that would have to actually look good, or else it would just look bad, so leaving it black might just be easiest.

NOTE: I made the bracket with tin snips, a drill, and some basic thin sheet metal. I also cleaned up the edges made when trimming the hugger with a blowtorch.

[Monkeytofu]

To be honest, I think the CBR250 hugger makes the back of our bikes look way too aesthetically messy; especially if you're running a stock exhaust like I am.

I think a a more modern/stylish mud guard would really help the back of our bikes.

[Snake]

Chris, thanks for including your post to this thread. I think it looks great.

[choneofakind]

I think if it was more modern looking, that would confuse the bike style-wise.

The bike is classic. It really needs a classic, basic hugger like what is on mid-90's Ducati's

[spent_too_much]

I just ordered an OEM hugger for the 2011 - 2013 CBR 250R as well. Let's hope it looks as good for me, as it does for others.

FYI - local dealer price for me was $25

[Snake]

Originally Posted by spent_too_much

I just ordered an OEM hugger for the 2011 - 2013 CBR 250R as well. Let's hope it looks as good for me, as it does for others.

FYI - local dealer price for me was $25

Please post a pic when you are done.

[Ghostt]

Not a hugger but a better looking chain guard, look at one of my blogs,

https://www.ninjette.org/forums/blog.php?b=8358

[spent_too_much]

The hugger arrived yesterday. Hopefully, within the next few days I can modify and mount it. I'll be sure to post pics of the process. I have a spare swingarm to facilitate test fitting.

[spent_too_much]

I spent an hour, sizing things up. I'm not sure if should place it so that it sits closer to the frame of the bike, or closer to the wheel. I also thought having the swingarm by itself would make things easier to align, but not so. When I have things lined up on the chain side, the overhang is too much on the brake side. I also find myself twisting the huger to make it al line up, to find that I have twisted the "fender" part out of alignment. Thoughts?

[spent_too_much]

I worked on fitment last night for a while, and decided to mount the hugger on the wheel side of the swingarm crossmember. I used blue tape to measure the before and after, for a reference of just how much I trimmed. I started off strong, with pictures, but then focussed on the trimming, not photographing. Some highlights...

[CZroe]

Might I suggest that you paint the swingarm and lower portion of the hugger black to match? I'd paint the footrest mounting stays as well. All that gray/silver just looks weird and I think it goes a long way toward updating the look of an old bike.

I think the flat black high temp grill paint looks perfect except that the pregen has gloss black on the frame.

[crazymadbastard]

@spent_too_much can you weigh the swinger? also how wide it is at the pivot axle to the frame?

[spent_too_much]

Originally Posted by CZroe

Might I suggest that you paint the swingarm and lower portion of the hugger black to match? I'd paint the footrest mounting stays as well. All that gray/silver just looks weird and I think it goes a long way toward updating the look of an old bike.

I think the flat black high temp grill paint looks perfect except that the pregen has gloss black on the frame.

Yes, I agree. It will be painted, once I complete the hugger. I was thinking of black plastidip for it.

[spent_too_much]

Originally Posted by crazymadbastard

@spent_too_much can you weigh the swinger? also how wide it is at the pivot axle to the frame?

I'll get back to you with that information.

[Ghostt]

Originally Posted by spent_too_much

Yes, I agree. It will be painted, once I complete the hugger. I was thinking of black plastidip for it.

All depends on color scheme of the bike.

[spent_too_much]

Originally Posted by spent_too_much

I'll get back to you with that information.

Hopefully this information will help someone. I took a broad picture for reference, then a close up of the measurement.

All are in inches.