Popo wants to take out Waze - Page 4

JohnnyBravo · January 31st, 2015, 10:22 AM

I had to download this waze... I'm in a stroller goin down the road with my passy

liberpolly · January 31st, 2015, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by snot

I also choose not to use my phone when driving, so I have no use for this type of app of at this time.

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Originally Posted by snot

1: I use a GPS in my car

My point being, Waze is GPS.

liberpolly · January 31st, 2015, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

Is it odd that I have one of those big books full of maps... Those things are like fossils (an atlas)

Try to show it to a teenager and ask to find a route

allanoue · January 31st, 2015, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by liberpolly

Try to show it to a teenager and ask to find a route

They need to learn for the "Zombie Apocalypse"

liberpolly · January 31st, 2015, 10:39 AM

My friends brought a toddler to an art show recently, he crawled up to a photo on the wall and tried to swipe it to show the next picture. True story.

snot · January 31st, 2015, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by liberpolly

My point being, Waze is GPS.

I use a Garmin. Not an app as a gps, it is a device that is strictly a GPS.

my teenager can read a map, but she is a girl scout.

Again, I am pro rights. I don't believe we need a law for every little thing. I am pro gun, and pro freedom of speech.... Which also gives me a right to my opinions, right or wrong.
All I ever said was I could see the chiefs point, I also think the app is useful if you are running from the law as well. Then you can use the app on foot, no worrying about driving distracted.

Now, can you can back off? Find someone else to pick on....

liberpolly · January 31st, 2015, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by snot

I use a Garmin. Not an app as a gps, it is a device that is strictly a GPS.

What's the difference? It's the same hardware, and almost the same software.

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Now, can you can back off? Find someone else to pick on....

I am not picking on you, I am genuinely curious. If you find my curiosity offensive, don't answer my questions. But that'd be a pity...

liberpolly · January 31st, 2015, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by snot

my teenager can read a map, but she is a girl scout.

Hooray for girl scouts! They'll save the human civilization one day.

JohnnyBravo · January 31st, 2015, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by snot

I use a Garmin. Not an app as a gps, it is a device that is strictly a GPS.

my teenager can read a map, but she is a girl scout.

Again, I am pro rights. I don't believe we need a law for every little thing. I am pro gun, and pro freedom of speech.... Which also gives me a right to my opinions, right or wrong.
All I ever said was I could see the chiefs point, I also think the app is useful if you are running from the law as well. Then you can use the app on foot, no worrying about driving distracted.

Now, can you can back off? Find someone else to pick on....

It doesn't show every cop, and they are free to move around as is everyone else. I don't see any use in it if you're running from the law.

allanoue · January 31st, 2015, 10:55 AM

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I am not picking on you, I am genuinely curious. If you find my curiosity offensive

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So when it turns out that your opinion is just plain stupid, you chose to hide behind women liberation? Oh, and "let's investigate other issues it could pose", that's some perennial schtick that never gets old.

You are disingenuous

alex.s · January 31st, 2015, 10:57 AM

if a cop is doing his job, those reports would be out of date in like 2 minutes

allanoue · January 31st, 2015, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by liberpolly

Hooray for girl scouts! They'll save the human civilization one day.

now you are being condescending

liberpolly · January 31st, 2015, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by allanoue

You are disingenuous

That post was admittedly harsh, but that's my standard response to an attempt to shut down the discussion by guilt-tripping the audience, after which the discussion continues to flow, as evident here.

liberpolly · January 31st, 2015, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by allanoue

now you are being condescending

Don't put words in my mouth. I absolutely mean it. My daughter cannot wait to be big enough...

snot · January 31st, 2015, 11:01 AM

The Garmin is not interactive, so users do not feel compelled to add traffic updates while driving. A GPS is only a map that shows a route and where you are, nothing more.

snot · January 31st, 2015, 11:04 AM

I am not trying to shutdown a discussion, just asked you stop including me. I have nothing else to add about the app.

alex.s · January 31st, 2015, 11:04 AM

did you know that using a paper map while driving is legal

snot · January 31st, 2015, 11:07 AM

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did you know that using a paper map while driving is legal

It is covered under driving impaired or distracted, I think.
That's why I park in a parking lot if I need to review a map.

liberpolly · January 31st, 2015, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by snot

The Garmin is not interactive, so users do not feel compelled to add traffic updates while driving. A GPS is only a map that shows a route and where you are, nothing more.

I don't own a separate GPS, so I am not sure how useful it is, but how about this?

http://www8.garmin.com/traffic/

allanoue · January 31st, 2015, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by liberpolly

That post was admittedly harsh, but that's my standard response to an attempt to shut down the discussion by guilt-tripping the audience, after which the discussion continues to flow, as evident here.

That post was likely a violation of TOS and you got a no no from the Big Boss and if continues he will shut this thread down. Not a help to its continuation

allanoue · January 31st, 2015, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by liberpolly

Don't put words in my mouth. I absolutely mean it. My daughter cannot wait to be big enough...

I put no words in your mouth. The post, in context with your other posts, looks to be very condescending to anyone. With your clarification, I will except you did not mean to come across that way. :reserving_judgment:

Worldtraveller · February 3rd, 2015, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by snot

I am not a moron...

1: I use a GPS in my car
2: written or memorize directions
3: I pull in to gas stations or other parking areas when I need to verify a route.
4: I don't randomly drive on unfamiliar roads unless I am intentionally trying to get lost.

I also know how to tell direction based on the Sun, shadows, stars and moss.

This is more illuminating about your knowledge than anything, unless you're again trying to be funny.

The thing about moss is not true. (Suburban legend? Rural legend?)

Worldtraveller · February 3rd, 2015, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by snot

I use a Garmin. Not an app as a gps, it is a device that is strictly a GPS.

my teenager can read a map, but she is a girl scout.

Again, I am pro rights. I don't believe we need a law for every little thing. I am pro gun, and pro freedom of speech.... Which also gives me a right to my opinions, right or wrong.
All I ever said was I could see the chiefs point, I also think the app is useful if you are running from the law as well. Then you can use the app on foot, no worrying about driving distracted.

Now, can you can back off? Find someone else to pick on....

But you just said you were pro-freedom of speech.

Or does that only apply to those who agree with you. You're not very good at this whole internet discussion thing.....

Worldtraveller · February 3rd, 2015, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by liberpolly

That post was admittedly harsh, but that's my standard response to an attempt to shut down the discussion by guilt-tripping the audience, after which the discussion continues to flow, as evident here.

I can't +1 this post, so...

QFT.

allanoue · February 3rd, 2015, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Worldtraveller

I can't +1 this post, so...

QFT.

good to know who the trolls are

Alex · February 3rd, 2015, 02:46 PM

There may be posters in this thread who are unfamiliar with the TOS here. It's in my sig, as well as at the bottom of every page. 1.4 and 2.1 are the relevant sections, and they are non-negotiable.

snot · February 3rd, 2015, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Worldtraveller

But you just said you were pro-freedom of speech.

Or does that only apply to those who agree with you. You're not very good at this whole internet discussion thing.....

I am pro speech say what you want, I don't have to agree with you or listen to you.

And a discussion is: noun
the action or process of talking about something, typically in order to reach a decision or to exchange ideas.

This was not a discussion.

csmith12 · February 3rd, 2015, 03:31 PM

Let's get this thread back on track.

I wanted to see what all the fuss was all about, so I used waze on my way to Jennings FL from KY and back.

Here is what I saw in over 1500 miles of pavement pounding;

1. 90%+ accuracy of road traffic alerts (mostly cars on the side of the road)
2. 5 false positives on cops on the way down
3. 10 or more false positives on the way back
4. 16 accurate traffic cop alerts on the way down
5. 6 accurate traffic cop alerts on the way back
6. A level of staleness based on time of day and amount of traffic (users) on the same road as you

I also saw alerts (check in's) that are their purely for ad purposes. I figger this because the same outback steakhouse was alerted on the way down as the way back. Hmmm... yea right, but Imma stop and eat there on my next trip. lol

Can it be used for good, sure... Can it be used for bad, sure...

Imho, no need to fuss from anyone, anywhere, for anything.

Worldtraveller · February 4th, 2015, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by allanoue

good to know who the trolls are

Really? Because I disagree with you, I'm a troll?

Good to know who the idiots are.

See. Two can play at that game.

allanoue · February 4th, 2015, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by allanoue

I live on waze but when my gf and I go on a road trip she gets paper maps

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Originally Posted by Worldtraveller

Really? Because I disagree with you, I'm a troll?

Good to know who the idiots are.

See. Two can play at that game.

I agree with your^^ post 100%
I love my waze. If you had read my posts you would know that.

Alex · February 4th, 2015, 11:22 AM

Worldtraveller is on a short break. No more warnings in this thread.

spooph · February 4th, 2015, 11:29 AM

Funny how easy it is to finger point (I know, I do it myself). Much harder to admit your own error...

subxero · February 4th, 2015, 01:21 PM

allanoue · February 4th, 2015, 01:23 PM

One of my favorite features is the ability to share my drive. When I am headed to my GFs.
I share my ride and send her an ETA and link to a map that shows my current location.
If I get stuck in traffic she can see that and I do not need to call her.

Also I have a couple of coworkers I am friends on Waze when we have the same destination like every morning on the way to work. While I can not see exactly where they are, like when I share my ride with the GF, I can see, and they can see, my progress.

Can that be used for stocking me? Only people I allow.

verboten1 · February 4th, 2015, 02:04 PM

That would be great for solo bike trips!

Bubba · February 4th, 2015, 02:10 PM

I use Waze frequently. The police notification is not always about speed traps, but just the car parked on the shoulder.
Approaching traffic is warned about a stopped police cruiser well in advance of the area, this means people slow down and look out for emergency vehicles. This makes the traffic cop's job much safer, as many of them get run down on highway stops.
For speed traps, yes, it is a deterrent to speeding, but isn't that the point of speed traps? At some point, regions have become addicted to speed trap revenue, and the concept of road safety is ignored.
The idea that Waze is used to target cops is ridiculous, if they don't want to get seen, they why the flashing lights and black-and white paint?

As for the reporting.. I don't do this unless traffic is at a standstill, it is distracting and unsafe.

snot · February 4th, 2015, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by verboten1

That would be great for solo bike trips!

That is true, I did not know it had this feature. Can a person linked see if you are no longer moving?
I don't use apps for gps or while driving, so I don't know all the features it has.

alex.s · February 12th, 2015, 04:34 PM

miami cops decide to screw with waze reports, use it to their advantage.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/12/80...le-traffic-app

liberpolly · February 13th, 2015, 12:02 AM

Looks like they don't understand how computers work...

Singh2jz · February 13th, 2015, 02:56 AM

I also think there's more going on than is being reported.

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Bubba ninjette.org member Name: Bubba Location: Hamilton, Canada Join Date: Jun 2014 Motorcycle(s): 300 Posts: 99	I use Waze frequently. The police notification is not always about speed traps, but just the car parked on the shoulder. Approaching traffic is warned about a stopped police cruiser well in advance of the area, this means people slow down and look out for emergency vehicles. This makes the traffic cop's job much safer, as many of them get run down on highway stops. For speed traps, yes, it is a deterrent to speeding, but isn't that the point of speed traps? At some point, regions have become addicted to speed trap revenue, and the concept of road safety is ignored. The idea that Waze is used to target cops is ridiculous, if they don't want to get seen, they why the flashing lights and black-and white paint? As for the reporting.. I don't do this unless traffic is at a standstill, it is distracting and unsafe.

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