July 5th, 2011, 10:53 AM | #1 |
ModMy250.com
Name: Tri
Location: St, Louis
Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R, 2005 R6 Posts: A lot.
|
To kill or not to kill?
I parked my car in front of my house this past weekend and when I opened the door, there was a small snake in front of my door. It was probably 1.5' in length, brownish color, and no real indication that it was harmful. Although I'm not expert on poisonous reptiles. I live in a residential suburb, but we're close to a lot of parks and maybe 5 miles directly off the bay.
My wife was getting ready to take our dog for a walk and I told her to stay away from the driver side of my car. She's really squeamish and scared of just about everything. My dog might have wanted to eat it. LOL. So she asks why and I told her. We walked over and the snake had crawled next to my tire. The wife freaks out and tells me to kill it, but I told her I felt sorry for it. The only concern I had was that it might crawl into my yard where my dog plays. What would you do?
__________________________________________________
The www.ModMy250.com guy |
|
July 5th, 2011, 10:56 AM | #2 |
vampire
Name: A
Location: IT
Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2 many 2 list Posts: A lot.
|
Snakes eat rodents, probably will eliminate house pests such as mouses, rats...
Once it gets bigger, even possum or skunk.. |
|
July 5th, 2011, 10:58 AM | #3 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Cody
Location: NoVa
Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 06 yzf r6r previously: 09 ninja 250r, black 07 zx6r Posts: A lot.
|
Can u take a picture of it? If not, can you describe it in more detail than just the brown color?
__________________________________________________
|
|
July 5th, 2011, 11:01 AM | #4 | |
ModMy250.com
Name: Tri
Location: St, Louis
Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R, 2005 R6 Posts: A lot.
|
Quote:
Not really, I didn't get too close too look. It was tan colored with a black stripe or two. It was small. Maybe the size of an adult garter snake.
__________________________________________________
The www.ModMy250.com guy |
|
|
July 5th, 2011, 11:12 AM | #5 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Cody
Location: NoVa
Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 06 yzf r6r previously: 09 ninja 250r, black 07 zx6r Posts: A lot.
|
I don't believe there are any poisonous / dangerous snakes with that description in your area. The majority of the dangerous snakes have a fancy design mostly including diamonds or a camo style color scheme and an arrowhead or triangular shaped head. Of course if it rattles, it's dangerous as well. I wouldn't worry about it too much. If it's in your driveway or under your car it's most likely just basking in the heat and will leave you alone. I'd let it be unless you find it to be a dangerous snake; it will probably leave soon.
__________________________________________________
|
|
July 5th, 2011, 11:14 AM | #6 |
vampire
Name: A
Location: IT
Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2 many 2 list Posts: A lot.
|
|
|
July 5th, 2011, 11:27 AM | #7 |
ninjette.org sage
Name: Carolyn
Location: San Carlos, CA
Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250, 2002 Yamaha XT225 Posts: 597
|
I'd leave it alone, but I refuse to vacuum up spiders too (much to the chagrin of my squeamish hubby ).
__________________________________________________
www.bluepoof.com |
|
July 5th, 2011, 11:35 AM | #8 |
Name: ...
Location: ...
Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): ... Posts: 999
|
As long as the snake stays outdoors, fine - it will consume undesirable vermin. BUT it will want to winter somewhere and a human shed or basement entry makes a very fine over-winter shelter. Food for thought.
|
|
July 5th, 2011, 11:37 AM | #9 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Colin
Location: Bay Area
Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): '96 EX250 Posts: A lot.
|
"A" nailed it. Most snakes are harmless, and control pests. You say you don't have pests but there wouldn't be any snakes around if there was nothing for them to eat. would you kill a lizard for no reason? Oh and is your wife 9?
|
|
July 5th, 2011, 11:40 AM | #10 |
ModMy250.com
Name: Tri
Location: St, Louis
Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R, 2005 R6 Posts: A lot.
|
LOL. I can't imagine your hubby being squeamish.
__________________________________________________
The www.ModMy250.com guy |
|
July 5th, 2011, 11:44 AM | #11 |
ninjette.org sage
Name: Jason
Location: Mississauga
Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250r Posts: 634
|
It was probably just a little Garter Snake...catch em and relocate em. Preferably in a forested bushy area...
|
|
July 5th, 2011, 01:01 PM | #12 |
ninjette.org sage
Name: Carolyn
Location: San Carlos, CA
Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250, 2002 Yamaha XT225 Posts: 597
|
He really, really, really hates spiders.
__________________________________________________
www.bluepoof.com |
|
July 5th, 2011, 01:06 PM | #13 |
Ninja chick
Name: Allyson
Location: Athens, GA
Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 Posts: A lot.
Blog Entries: 4
MOTM - Dec '13, Feb '15
|
Most snakes are harmless and quite helpful! I hate when people kill them just because they were born as snakes. Venomous ones, particularly moccasins that tend to be quite aggressive, are a different story.
__________________________________________________
Sometimes it's the journey that teaches you a lot about your destination. ~Drake Check out my Appalachian Trail journal, 2015! Postwhores are COOL! ~Allyson |
|
July 5th, 2011, 01:59 PM | #14 |
Newb..... on a steeek! :D
Name: Mike
Location: Windermere, FL
Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Harley Davidson XL883L Sportster Superlow Posts: A lot.
|
Ah, that sounds like a rat snake. If I'm correct then it is truly harmless and will usually only come out at night. Sounds like the baby version of the snake I almost stepped on here in Orlando while walking the dog a few weeks back. It too was tan with black stripes down it's side. Although this one was more like 2' long and it didn't even flinch at me being within a foot of it. I think it was hoping it's camo would keep me from noticing it and it could go on it's way after I passed. They like small rodents, bugs, and if they can get them, eggs.
|
|
July 5th, 2011, 02:25 PM | #15 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Jason
Location: Alabama
Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250r Posts: 91
|
As several other people have said, chances are it is non-poisonous, no danger to people or pets and will eat vermin so it's a positive to have them around.
Identifying whether a snake is poisonous is pretty easy in the US if you know what are common in your area and what to look for. One quick and easy indicator is head shape: many venomous snakes have a triangular-shaped head due to their poison glands and the difference can be pronounced. (see pic) That being said, even if you're sure it's not poisonous, don't go handling it - they are still a wild animal. If you need to shoo it away use a stick or something.
__________________________________________________
MTGATT |
|
July 5th, 2011, 02:43 PM | #16 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Whodat
Location: Ware Is.,MA
Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot.
MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14
|
Snakes are good!
__________________________________________________
If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough! |
|
July 5th, 2011, 02:50 PM | #17 | |
ModMy250.com
Name: Tri
Location: St, Louis
Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R, 2005 R6 Posts: A lot.
|
Quote:
__________________________________________________
The www.ModMy250.com guy |
|
|
July 5th, 2011, 05:16 PM | #18 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Rick
Location: Alexandria, Louisiana
Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much.
MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14
|
As long as any creature is not a threat to myself, my pets or my house I leave them alone. Live and let live I say.
|
|
July 5th, 2011, 05:39 PM | #19 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Jeff
Location: PA
Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): 08 R6 Posts: 224
|
I would leave it personally
|
|
July 6th, 2011, 07:12 PM | #20 |
ninjette.org guru
Name: Jonathan
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 Posts: 398
|
I have a corn snake and it's more afraid of people than anything. Although it has gotten used to my scent, if I stick my hand into the tank suddenly he will try to burrow to escape.
Just shoo it out of the way with a broom. Now spiders *shudders*. That's a different story!
__________________________________________________
From here...to everywhere! |
|
July 7th, 2011, 05:33 AM | #21 |
GDTRFB
Name: Drew
Location: SE PA
Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 - sold 2005 EX500R project Posts: 496
|
This copperhead was in my driveway recently... I let him go. We have Timber rattlesnakes too. I have yet to see one.
__________________________________________________
I don't want a pickle Just want to ride on my motorsickle -Arlo Guthrie |
|
July 8th, 2011, 07:36 AM | #22 |
ninjette.org guru
Name: Jesse
Location: Ann arbor mi
Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 ninja 250r Posts: 374
|
|
|
July 8th, 2011, 08:58 AM | #23 |
The Corner Whisperer
Name: Chris (aka Reactor)
Location: Northern KY
Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much.
MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13
|
I live in the middle of a large forest. These are on my NO-KILL list.
1. snakes 2. spiders 3. wasps 4. bees 5. owls 6. coyotes 7. stray cats These animals keep my home in the woods beside a 180 acre lake a nice place to live in and to be outside. FYI, my wife is deathly afraid of snakes too.
__________________________________________________
Goal: Shake A Million Hands | Look through the corners | Track Day Prep | Closest track? | The Mid-Ohio School |
|
July 8th, 2011, 10:55 AM | #24 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Bob
Location: CA
Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.
|
Kill. Snakes are satan.
__________________________________________________
Honda Interceptor VFR800 DLX (2014, 8th gen) Honda CBR500r (2014) - FOR SALE Kawi Ninja 250r (2008) - Restored and passed-down within family, only to be abandoned |
|
July 8th, 2011, 10:56 AM | #25 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Bob
Location: CA
Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.
|
__________________________________________________
Honda Interceptor VFR800 DLX (2014, 8th gen) Honda CBR500r (2014) - FOR SALE Kawi Ninja 250r (2008) - Restored and passed-down within family, only to be abandoned |
|
July 8th, 2011, 11:01 AM | #26 |
ninjette.org Monkey Spank
Name: Kevin
Location: Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R Track-Bike Woodcraft clip-ons and rearsets FZ-6 track bike Posts: A lot.
|
__________________________________________________
Black 250R Full Area P QC Dyno Jet Kit 100 main 41T Rear Sprocket |
|
July 8th, 2011, 11:02 AM | #27 |
ninjette.org Monkey Spank
Name: Kevin
Location: Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R Track-Bike Woodcraft clip-ons and rearsets FZ-6 track bike Posts: A lot.
|
Burn the witch.................KILL IT, KILL IT...... LOL oops thought this was the Casey Anthony thread.
__________________________________________________
Black 250R Full Area P QC Dyno Jet Kit 100 main 41T Rear Sprocket |
|
July 8th, 2011, 11:06 AM | #28 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Jason
Location: Alabama
Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250r Posts: 91
|
If I see a poisonous snake around my house I would kill it, but only because I live in a populated area and there's too big a chance that it'd roam into the neighborhood and bite someone's pet or kid.
__________________________________________________
MTGATT |
|
July 8th, 2011, 12:03 PM | #29 |
wat
Name: wat
Location: tustin/long beach
Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much.
Blog Entries: 5
MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14
|
one time my brother found a dead rattler that was being eaten by wasps... one of the wasps stung him and apparently he got the venom. almost lost his arm it was so black and swollen.
now whenever i see a rattler or any venomous snake for that matter, kill the bastard and bury the head. we get rattlers about once or twice a year around the house... don't get any other venomous snakes though
__________________________________________________
|
|
July 8th, 2011, 12:59 PM | #30 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Jason
Location: Alabama
Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250r Posts: 91
|
I am confused.
__________________________________________________
MTGATT |
|
July 8th, 2011, 01:17 PM | #31 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Bob
Location: CA
Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.
|
I'm not sure, but I think he meant got the snake venom from the wasp..... but that can't be right. Maybe it was just an allergic reaction to wasp venom.
__________________________________________________
Honda Interceptor VFR800 DLX (2014, 8th gen) Honda CBR500r (2014) - FOR SALE Kawi Ninja 250r (2008) - Restored and passed-down within family, only to be abandoned |
|
July 8th, 2011, 03:42 PM | #32 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Bob
Location: CA
Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.
|
Making fun of myself here, and just to show how irrational my fear of snakes is... Once I was mountain biking and was just about to crest a hill, looked up and saw a snake (my head must have been down while I was climbing). I don't know what kind of snake it was, but it very likely a rattler. It has been a decade, but I think I remember it being coiled, possibly had a rattle, but just chillin' there (I know they are in the area - Pudding Stone park in San Dimas - I think that is what it is called). It wasn't very far from me, but it wasn't supper close to me either. My heart jumped out of my chest, and and I hauled ar$e down the hill at ~15mph. The whole way down I KNEW I was safe, but still pictured it right behind me, heart still pounding.
Don't know why... no real childhood snake trauma, just prefer we don't meet at all. Fortunately this fear doesn't prevent me from enjoying the outdoors, but I am cautious in certain areas... but I think that is just wise.
__________________________________________________
Honda Interceptor VFR800 DLX (2014, 8th gen) Honda CBR500r (2014) - FOR SALE Kawi Ninja 250r (2008) - Restored and passed-down within family, only to be abandoned |
|
July 8th, 2011, 03:58 PM | #33 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Tim
Location: philly
Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 ex250 (Blue) Posts: 63
|
Snakes are awesome! A buddy had a few Boa's and let me tell you, they give great neck massages! Friendliest creatures too.
Now mind you, this is not always the case. As Money said, be weary of handling it. Don't kill it. Live and let live. |
|
July 8th, 2011, 04:03 PM | #34 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: D
Location: Palm Beach, FL
Join Date: Oct 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250R, 2007 EFI Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.
Blog Entries: 1
|
Most snakes should just be left alone. Copperheads, rattlesnakes and other venomous snakes should be killed on sight. Doing so makes it safer for everyone.
|
|
July 8th, 2011, 04:14 PM | #35 | |
ninjette.org member
Name: Tim
Location: philly
Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 ex250 (Blue) Posts: 63
|
Quote:
Not to mention that we do far more harm to them than they do to us. "Humans are undoubtedly the most dominant species the Earth has ever known. In just a few thousand years we have swallowed up more than a third of the planet's land for our cities, farmland and pastures. By some estimates, we now commandeer 40 per cent of all its productivity. And we're leaving quite a mess behind: ploughed-up prairies, razed forests, drained aquifers, nuclear waste, chemical pollution, invasive species, mass extinctions and now the looming spectre of climate change. If they could, the other species we share Earth with would surely vote us off the planet." (New Scientist) |
|
|
July 8th, 2011, 04:25 PM | #37 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Bob
Location: CA
Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.
|
.......as soon as they are killed.
__________________________________________________
Honda Interceptor VFR800 DLX (2014, 8th gen) Honda CBR500r (2014) - FOR SALE Kawi Ninja 250r (2008) - Restored and passed-down within family, only to be abandoned |
|
July 9th, 2011, 02:03 AM | #38 |
Nooblet
Name: Akima
Location: England
Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R FI Posts: A lot.
Blog Entries: 5
MOTM - Oct '13
|
Maybe they haven't been an issue to you because that snake has been hard at work eating them.
I wish there were lizards and more snakes here. Maybe I'm weird, but I think they're really beautiful creatures. Especially the tiny lizards - so cute! |
|
July 9th, 2011, 07:21 AM | #39 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Ken
Location: Indio, CA
Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Kawasaki EX250 "Yoshi", '99 Kawasaki Concours "Grace", '06 Concours "Belle", '06 Yamaha YZF600R "Slick" Posts: A lot.
Blog Entries: 3
|
The only venomous snakes native to California are rattlers. Any others are part of the pest control.
__________________________________________________
< ATGATT > Sweat you can wipe off, Road rash you can't. HEY!! Unregistered!! Does your bike have a name? |
|
July 9th, 2011, 07:51 AM | #40 |
ninjette.org sage
Name: Marc
Location: Crawfordville, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2005 Suzuki S50, 2006 Kawasaki Ninja EX250F, 1990 Honda PC800, 2000 Yamaha TW200 Posts: 848
|
Like money posted, poisonous snakes have a triangular shaped head because of the venom sacs, nonpoisonous snakes have a head that is the same diameter as the body that just merges with the body in one smooth line, like a rope. Also poisonous snakes have slits for pupils in their eyes, non poisonous snakes have round pupils. Not that you would necessarily stop and look closely to analyze this if you suddenly came upon a big snake. Just watch out when walking in the woods that you don't disturb something lying quietly on the forest floor. Nobody including snakes likes surprises like that.
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
wife is going to kill me!! | crazymadbastard | New Members | 44 | May 21st, 2014 08:49 AM |
Kill Switch | Countersteer | General Motorcycling Discussion | 6 | May 6th, 2012 12:55 AM |
How to Kill a Ninja | nickjpass | Videos | 16 | October 24th, 2011 09:26 PM |
Engine Kill Switch won't kill | .KiT | 2008 - 2012 Ninja 250R Tech Talk | 53 | November 15th, 2009 11:43 AM |
how to kill a tire | kawi_cj | Videos | 11 | August 9th, 2009 07:24 PM |
|
|