June 30th, 2013, 01:32 PM | #1 |
Girly Gearhead <3
Name: Brittany
Location: Florida
Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): Kawasaki Ninja 300 Posts: 129
|
Area P Farkle Overload.
So, as some of you know (and many don't) I have been working with the president of the company Area P, Kerry Bryant, by allowing them to use my 300 to test fitment on their FIRST (yes, first ) production exhaust. Along with that they also ran dyno tunings and mapping to make sure it was running optimally.
As far as my bike this is the run down of what was put onto it;
They ran many dyno test while the bike was there, I left it for a week so they put tons of time into making everything perfect with their tuning and mapping. I couldn't be any happier with the results. Here is the chart, the proof is in the pudding: As you can see it really shows how the 300 with the stock exhaust peaks at 10750 rpm and starts to drop off quickly from that point on. When they put on the Ultra High Mount system, you can see it continues to build power and then maintains the power all the way to the soft limiter at 12750 rpm. The Area P system all together makes over 7 hp more than stock, after 11500 and above. I must say it is VERY impressive when you are talking about a modification gaining you that much HP. Aside of the peak power though you can clearly see that the Area P system makes power right from the bottom 3000 rpm, all the way to the soft limiter. Area P spend a lot of R&D time to achieve this and I must say they hit the nail RIGHT on the head. The "dip" in the powerband at about 8750 - 9500 is part of the characteristics of the Ultra High Mount system, as explained to me by Kerry Bryant it's what they call a peak power pipe, where it really starts to "hit" at 9500 rpm and pulls all the way to the soft limiter. The quote from Kerry about it was "It lets you "know" that you are really making power through the "seat of your pants" and that you do not need to be looking at a Dyno chart to feel it." The look is phenomenal; the combination of the carbon fiber, high mount, and everything ties in so well together in my opinion. The high mount really is amazing, on this system especially it tucks in so clean to the bike. Area P really outdid themselves with this one, they seemed to have paid extreme attention to every curve on this bike making the system look as if it was supposed to be there all along. Also, the FI Tuner was placed under my back seat in the near non-existent "trunk" persay PERFECT use of this space, Kerry placed it under there and mounted it into place using velcro so it is easily taken off and easily at that if ever desired. I honestly cannot be ANY happier with this system, in all seriousness. It completely exceeded my expectations! You can instantly feel the difference, it gains so much more than just sound. As far as sound, once again blew me away. It is a very throaty raw sound, deep and crisp. I will be doing a nice sound clip video as soon as the weather here lets up for long enough and will post it asap. Until then here are some pictures of my bike and her system and mods; . Overall, my experience with Area P & Kerry Bryant really impressed me, not only was Kerry an endless dictionary of useful information and there to answer ANY of my questions but he also made sure to update me and fill me in on everything there could be to know. I would recommend them anyday! |
|
June 30th, 2013, 02:14 PM | #2 |
Certifiable nontundrum
Name: Harper
Location: NC Milkshake stand
Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 SE NINJA 300 Posts: Too much.
MOTM - Sep '13, Sep '16
|
Looks good! Consider me impressed! When I go for tuner and exhaust I know what I'll be getin
__________________________________________________
|
|
June 30th, 2013, 03:23 PM | #3 |
ninjette.org guru
Name: Tom
Location: Dayton, OH
Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 '09 Boulevard C50. '08 250r(TOTALED BY DEER) Posts: 467
|
Great post. Beautiful pics. Area P are masters at their craft. My bike will be the next Area P guinea pig for the Fuel Moto folks in Wisconsin. I can't wait to ride it after that. Their full system really woke up my old 250. This time, I will be getting the SS long/quiet core, on a black 300. The pics will be nice to compare to yours.
Have fun when the weather breaks! Soooo jealous right now
__________________________________________________
CHEERS!!! |
|
June 30th, 2013, 03:39 PM | #4 | |
Girly Gearhead <3
Name: Brittany
Location: Florida
Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): Kawasaki Ninja 300 Posts: 129
|
Quote:
I also did hear about your bike going to fuel moto, enjoy man! My experience down here in FL was nothing short of AMAZING. Kerry is a wonderful person to deal with and def not my last purchase from them by no means. Hopefully grabbing a mimic of my system for my man for his birthday, gonna be putting in some overtime at work and makin it happen.. You WILL NOT be disappointed I can guarantee it! |
|
|
June 30th, 2013, 05:13 PM | #5 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Steve
Location: Oswego, NY
Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 White 300 Posts: 221
|
And the quiet core muffler makes an even stronger powerband that that. Looks nice.
|
|
June 30th, 2013, 05:59 PM | #6 | |
not an actual panda
Name: dan
Location: philadelphia
Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250, 2009 CBR600RR (Sold) Posts: A lot.
|
Quote:
|
|
|
June 30th, 2013, 06:05 PM | #7 | |
Girly Gearhead <3
Name: Brittany
Location: Florida
Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): Kawasaki Ninja 300 Posts: 129
|
Quote:
If you look at most Dyno charts for any exhaust you will usually see they either gain low end or high end. This system gains all the way through but screams at high end gain which is awesome As stated a 7hp gain is pretty darn substantial, especially on a 300.
__________________________________________________
". . .No, it's not his. Care to demonstrate your ignorance again?" |
|
|
July 1st, 2013, 02:28 AM | #8 |
Simple kind of man
Name: Ryan
Location: Stuttgart, Germany
Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 Posts: 133
|
Usually, a larger and shorter exhaust will yield more top end power while sacrificing low end. (Less back pressure)
A narrow and longer exhaust will yield the most low end while sacrificing top end. (More back pressure) The Area P system you have appears to use rather large header pipes which is likely why the peak numbers are so different and may also explain why your midrange numbers are fairly close to each other (despite being a high mount system).
__________________________________________________
|
|
July 1st, 2013, 02:38 AM | #9 |
Simple kind of man
Name: Ryan
Location: Stuttgart, Germany
Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 Posts: 133
|
Secondly, I would venture to say that the dead spot around 9200-9700rpm is likely due to conflicting exhaust pulses (if not fuel/ignition tuning related) and they may benefit with a crossover pipe.
__________________________________________________
|
|
July 1st, 2013, 03:57 AM | #10 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Eric
Location: Iowa City
Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawmeracchi 350 2010 Project X Posts: A lot.
Blog Entries: 54
MOTM - Sep '18, Feb '16
|
Good job! The bike looks great.
All these engines seem to have a dip in the dyno chart. I think it might be the ignition . I am able to tune that out with the BRT.
__________________________________________________
Top speed 123.369mph. Ohio mile Worlds fastest 250 ninja |
|
July 1st, 2013, 03:42 PM | #11 |
Girly Gearhead <3
Name: Brittany
Location: Florida
Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): Kawasaki Ninja 300 Posts: 129
|
__________________________________________________
". . .No, it's not his. Care to demonstrate your ignorance again?" |
|
July 1st, 2013, 03:55 PM | #12 | |
ninjette.org sage
Name: Justin
Location: Fresno CA
Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 12' Ninja 250 Posts: 831
|
Quote:
|
|
|
July 1st, 2013, 04:40 PM | #13 | |
ninjette.org member
Name: Carlos
Location: Puerto Rico
Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 300R Posts: 181
|
Quote:
|
|
|
July 1st, 2013, 04:54 PM | #14 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Carlos
Location: Puerto Rico
Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 300R Posts: 181
|
area p tuner only tunes the a/f tables, i bet with ignition timming tunning, you could tune that dead spot
|
|
July 1st, 2013, 04:58 PM | #16 | |
ninjette.org guru
Name: Tom
Location: Dayton, OH
Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 '09 Boulevard C50. '08 250r(TOTALED BY DEER) Posts: 467
|
Quote:
@kbryant
__________________________________________________
CHEERS!!! |
|
|
July 1st, 2013, 05:31 PM | #17 | |
Girly Gearhead <3
Name: Brittany
Location: Florida
Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): Kawasaki Ninja 300 Posts: 129
|
Quote:
Thank you so much, i'm pretty addicted
__________________________________________________
". . .No, it's not his. Care to demonstrate your ignorance again?" |
|
|
July 1st, 2013, 05:40 PM | #18 |
Que Buenos Son!!!
Name: Ryan
Location: Grovetucky, OH
Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia Shiver 750, Husaberg FE 450, Ninja 300 (sold), xr100 Posts: A lot.
MOTM - Nov '14
|
Bike's lookin' sick.
I'm loving the look of that high mount exhaust, but I don't want to get rid of my passenger pegs so I'm stickin' with the regular shorty. So when you gonna get the solo seat cowl???
__________________________________________________
Don't do something because it's easy,.. Do it because it's not! If you aren't going forward, then you're falling behind. "Drive it like you stole it"!!! |
|
July 1st, 2013, 05:59 PM | #19 | |
Girly Gearhead <3
Name: Brittany
Location: Florida
Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): Kawasaki Ninja 300 Posts: 129
|
Quote:
& thanks for the compliments
__________________________________________________
". . .No, it's not his. Care to demonstrate your ignorance again?" |
|
|
July 1st, 2013, 06:04 PM | #20 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Carlos
Location: Puerto Rico
Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 300R Posts: 181
|
|
|
July 1st, 2013, 06:08 PM | #21 |
Girly Gearhead <3
Name: Brittany
Location: Florida
Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): Kawasaki Ninja 300 Posts: 129
|
I'm safe, he isn't on this forum
__________________________________________________
". . .No, it's not his. Care to demonstrate your ignorance again?" |
|
July 1st, 2013, 06:22 PM | #22 | |
ninjette.org member
Name: Carlos
Location: Puerto Rico
Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 300R Posts: 181
|
Quote:
|
|
|
July 2nd, 2013, 05:31 AM | #23 | |
Area P
Name: Kerry
Location: SoCal & South Florida
Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): Too many to list Posts: 439
|
Quote:
FYI - On race bikes, it is actually very common to completely remove the reservoir and simply use what is in the line (which is way more than enough in most cases). The "Reservoir" is replaced with a vented cap/bolt type assembly (like from HRC), that allows proper venting. Looks extremely clean and removes the clutter. It's a very sano mod. |
|
|
July 2nd, 2013, 06:58 AM | #24 |
Simple kind of man
Name: Ryan
Location: Stuttgart, Germany
Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 Posts: 133
|
It's common for track bikes but you really need to keep a watchfull eye on it with a streetbike. More so, you need to use proper hose that won't weep the fluid.
I ran a similar setup on my R1.
__________________________________________________
|
|
July 2nd, 2013, 04:50 PM | #25 | |
ninjette.org member
Name: Carlos
Location: Puerto Rico
Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 300R Posts: 181
|
Quote:
|
|
|
July 2nd, 2013, 05:33 PM | #26 |
ninjette.org sage
Name: Benji
Location: Wadsworth, IL
Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r (Sold), 2009 FZ6, 2015 Honda Grom Posts: 898
|
Thats a good looking exhaust!! I loved my Area P on my 250, I'm kind of bummed it's not an option on my FZ6.
That R1 is hot! |
|
July 5th, 2013, 08:54 AM | #27 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Aaron
Location: New Orleans
Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 Posts: 159
|
That is one nice looking bike. How much louder is it over stock when just commuting and behaving?
__________________________________________________
~B. |
|
July 5th, 2013, 01:10 PM | #28 | ||
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: .
Location: .
Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much.
MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14
|
Quote:
Quote:
Area P is one of the few places that actually supplies noise level numbers for their systems. |
||
|
July 5th, 2013, 01:19 PM | #29 |
Que Buenos Son!!!
Name: Ryan
Location: Grovetucky, OH
Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia Shiver 750, Husaberg FE 450, Ninja 300 (sold), xr100 Posts: A lot.
MOTM - Nov '14
|
Yeah, I got the loudest one.
We'll see if it's louder than the two-bros on my supermoto, that exhaust is pretty eff'n loud.
__________________________________________________
Don't do something because it's easy,.. Do it because it's not! If you aren't going forward, then you're falling behind. "Drive it like you stole it"!!! |
|
July 5th, 2013, 04:43 PM | #30 |
Girly Gearhead <3
Name: Brittany
Location: Florida
Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): Kawasaki Ninja 300 Posts: 129
|
Def. MUCH louder than the stock, and SO much more crisp and raw sounding.
__________________________________________________
". . .No, it's not his. Care to demonstrate your ignorance again?" |
|
July 18th, 2013, 07:47 AM | #31 |
Girly Gearhead <3
Name: Brittany
Location: Florida
Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): Kawasaki Ninja 300 Posts: 129
|
Figured with all the talk in the GB for the Area P systems I would BUMP this on up; GoPro is charged and will do a ride video tonite when I get off work I haven't forgotten to get it...just been dealing with Florida's wishy washy weather.
__________________________________________________
". . .No, it's not his. Care to demonstrate your ignorance again?" |
|
July 22nd, 2013, 08:31 PM | #32 |
ninjette.org newbie
Name: James
Location: Canada
Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 Posts: 3
|
My standard mount carbon fiber system and tuner shipped from florida today! I am in Canada though so I assume I wont see the parts for a week or two, I really wanna see more videos of your bike I cant wait to have this system. I also just ordered the complete Cortech super 2.0 luggage set up with the saddlebags, trunk bag and 12 liter tank bag, going to put some serious miles on this thing soon.
|
|
July 26th, 2013, 02:27 AM | #33 | |
ninjette.org guru
Name: Adi
Location: SF Bay Area
Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): Triumph Street Triple R Posts: 380
|
Quote:
Its awesome how good the standard mount, carbon sounds once you get up in the higher revs. More HP is just the icing. |
|
|
August 8th, 2013, 08:44 PM | #34 | |
ninjette.org newbie
Name: James
Location: Canada
Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 Posts: 3
|
Quote:
I am running k&n panel filter with snorkel removed, 15t front sprocket and Kerry sent my tuner with map 5 pre-loaded seems solid so far, anyone know if theres a place to download more maps to test things out with? |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
DIY - What Electrical Items Can be Used and Not Overload the Battery? | g21-30 | 2008 - 2012 Ninja 250R Tech Talk | 30 | July 25th, 2013 08:18 AM |
farkle? what is that | alex.s | 2008 - 2012 Ninja 250R Farkles | 6 | November 28th, 2012 02:02 PM |
Cuteness Overload | Jiggles | Off-Topic | 4 | September 24th, 2012 09:39 PM |
[topix.net] - Southwick MX Statistics Overload | Ninjette Newsbot | Motorcycling News | 0 | August 27th, 2010 03:10 PM |
Happy B-Day overload | Snake | Off-Topic | 2 | November 24th, 2009 07:25 PM |
|
|