Friend drops bike one day later...

Law3386 · February 13th, 2012, 04:11 PM

So I bought a 2012 250 and a day later my friend dropped it. He was coming to a stop grabbed the front brake and a hand full of throttle. The bike went down and while the tire was still spinning did a 180 and finally stopped. I am worried about the bike. Could the frame have been damaged?? Opinions please.

sombo · February 13th, 2012, 04:17 PM

First, welcome to the forums. Second, that totally sucks and I would shoot your friend. I'm guessing it was his first time on a bike and they never took the MSF? If that is the case you never should have let him on your bike. If you haven't taken it yet I 1000% suggest going to take the MSF.

As for the frame being bent. I highly doubt it is bent from that. Usually it takes a decent impact to do that sort of thing. If you are truly concerned then you could always take it to a trusted mechanic to have it fully inspected. I would do that anyway to get a full assessment of the damages and then I would confront your friend to pay for the damages he caused to your bike.

TeamGreen · February 13th, 2012, 04:20 PM

Well, guess you wont make that mistake again.

Law3386 · February 13th, 2012, 04:26 PM

Yeah I will never make that mistake again! I have been riding for 20 years. I'm just really OCD and it bothers me that this brand new bike went down. Luckily the only thing I have layed down is a dirtbike(knock on wood). They bike seems to ride fine and the left front fairing has some scratches. I took the fairing off and the bracket for the nut plate is bent( where the headlight fairing meets the left front fairng. Looks like a sub frame coming from the triple tree area.

csmith12 · February 13th, 2012, 04:28 PM

Welcome Kurt!

Rotten luck you had there. Get it fixed back up, take the MSF if you haven't and be careful out there.

gilmorec61 · February 13th, 2012, 04:30 PM

mmm, man, thats horrible to hear, i woulda hated that. Ride Safe!

Law3386 · February 13th, 2012, 04:34 PM

So do you guys think the bike is fine?

Jiggles · February 13th, 2012, 04:39 PM

Yea bike is fine, these ninjas can survive far worse crashes

Law3386 · February 13th, 2012, 04:45 PM

How do you get a bent frame anyways? Does it take a pretty hard hit to do it? Cuz if I can just replace the fairing that would be sweet!

Jiggles · February 13th, 2012, 04:47 PM

The frame would need to take a significant amount of force. A serious crash can easily bend the frame. However the fairings provide excellent (and expensive) protection to the frame

gilmorec61 · February 13th, 2012, 04:47 PM

Yeah, a really super hard hit... I bought my ninjette back in November, and i brought it home opened it up and found out it had a bent frame

But it was in the tail section, and i was able to heat it up and bend it back.

Law3386 · February 13th, 2012, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilmorec61

Yeah, a really super hard hit... I bought my ninjette back in November, and i brought it home opened it up and found out it had a bent frame

But it was in the tail section, and i was able to heat it up and bend it back.

Was it used or brand new?

squaregamer476 · February 13th, 2012, 04:52 PM

time for some frame sliders.

Law3386 · February 13th, 2012, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squaregamer476

time for some frame sliders.

I'm not a fan of frame sliders. It was my fault for letting my friend ride. I will never let another person ride my bike. Bikes are like toothbrushes, your not supposed to share. Lesson learned for me.

gilmorec61 · February 13th, 2012, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Was it used or brand new?

Used definently.

Nemesis · February 13th, 2012, 06:32 PM

20 yrs of riding and you're just NOW learning this?

nickjpass · February 13th, 2012, 08:44 PM

Sucks man. Welcome to the forums.

I would never let my friends ride my bike. They would have to have some sort of experience...

KJohnson21 · February 13th, 2012, 09:11 PM

sombo · February 13th, 2012, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickjpass

Sucks man. Welcome to the forums.

I would never let my friends ride my bike. They would have to have some sort of experience...

Of course you wouldn't. You still need to get one and gain that experience yourself man.

nickjpass · February 13th, 2012, 09:46 PM

I don't let my friends use stuff I care about.

choneofakind · February 13th, 2012, 09:59 PM

I've only let a select few friends ride my bike, and they all have more experience than I do.

greenaero · February 13th, 2012, 10:03 PM

Welcome ! A shame about the damage but the frame and other key structural componenets should be fine. For frame damage you usually see other severe damage: bent forks, broken wheels , radiator displacement etc. You would also usually need to run into something. Hopefully your "friend " will man up and pay for the damage.
best wishes, GA

Malicious Logic · February 13th, 2012, 10:55 PM

First, welcome to the forum! Secondly, I would've NEVER let a friend ride my brand new bike. That was just asking for him to screw it up. ESPECIALLY if he's never ridden before or hasn't taken MSF.

Luvninja · February 14th, 2012, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Law3386

Was it used or brand new?

I highly doubt it was brand new with a bent frame... So, you've been riding for 20 years...?

GateKeeper · February 14th, 2012, 06:56 AM

your frame should be OK, it was only a drop, no major crash, and the bike hit nothing other than the ground, frames are fairly sturdy.

Here is a picture of my frame, from the previous owner after he hit something, he crushed the tubing of the frame, but the frame itself stayed in spec, nothing bent in or out, so I would imagine your bike should just be fine.

no this is not a Ninja frame....

and this is a picture after we welded up a couple of cover plates to close up the crushed area, and primed afterwards, even after welding frame still stayed true and straight.

.

Snake · February 15th, 2012, 02:24 AM

Hello and welcome.

Kevin2109 · February 15th, 2012, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamGreen

Well, guess you wont make that mistake again.

Holy **** its keven!

February 13th, 2012, 04:11 PM	#1
Law3386 ninjette.org newbie Name: Kurt Location: Charleston, SC Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Posts: 6	Friend drops bike one day later... So I bought a 2012 250 and a day later my friend dropped it. He was coming to a stop grabbed the front brake and a hand full of throttle. The bike went down and while the tire was still spinning did a 180 and finally stopped. I am worried about the bike. Could the frame have been damaged?? Opinions please.

February 13th, 2012, 04:28 PM	#5
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Welcome Kurt! Rotten luck you had there. Get it fixed back up, take the MSF if you haven't and be careful out there. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

February 13th, 2012, 04:39 PM	#8
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Yea bike is fine, these ninjas can survive far worse crashes __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

February 13th, 2012, 04:47 PM	#10
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	The frame would need to take a significant amount of force. A serious crash can easily bend the frame. However the fairings provide excellent (and expensive) protection to the frame __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

February 13th, 2012, 06:32 PM	#16
Nemesis CVMA #74 WSMC #750 Name: Nemesis Location: On the track Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): All of them Posts: A lot.	20 yrs of riding and you're just NOW learning this? __________________________________________________

February 13th, 2012, 04:17 PM	#2
sombo Newb..... on a steeek! :D Name: Mike Location: Windermere, FL Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Harley Davidson XL883L Sportster Superlow Posts: A lot.	First, welcome to the forums. Second, that totally sucks and I would shoot your friend. I'm guessing it was his first time on a bike and they never took the MSF? If that is the case you never should have let him on your bike. If you haven't taken it yet I 1000% suggest going to take the MSF. As for the frame being bent. I highly doubt it is bent from that. Usually it takes a decent impact to do that sort of thing. If you are truly concerned then you could always take it to a trusted mechanic to have it fully inspected. I would do that anyway to get a full assessment of the damages and then I would confront your friend to pay for the damages he caused to your bike.

February 13th, 2012, 04:20 PM	#3
TeamGreen ninjette.org member Name: Keven Location: San Diego Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250 Green, 00 R6 Posts: 160	Well, guess you wont make that mistake again.

February 13th, 2012, 04:26 PM	#4
Law3386 ninjette.org newbie Name: Kurt Location: Charleston, SC Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Posts: 6	Yeah I will never make that mistake again! I have been riding for 20 years. I'm just really OCD and it bothers me that this brand new bike went down. Luckily the only thing I have layed down is a dirtbike(knock on wood). They bike seems to ride fine and the left front fairing has some scratches. I took the fairing off and the bracket for the nut plate is bent( where the headlight fairing meets the left front fairng. Looks like a sub frame coming from the triple tree area.

February 13th, 2012, 04:30 PM	#6
gilmorec61 ninjette.org guru Name: Chris Location: Newnan, G.A. Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 347	mmm, man, thats horrible to hear, i woulda hated that. Ride Safe!

February 13th, 2012, 04:34 PM	#7
Law3386 ninjette.org newbie Name: Kurt Location: Charleston, SC Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Posts: 6	So do you guys think the bike is fine?

February 13th, 2012, 04:45 PM	#9
Law3386 ninjette.org newbie Name: Kurt Location: Charleston, SC Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Posts: 6	How do you get a bent frame anyways? Does it take a pretty hard hit to do it? Cuz if I can just replace the fairing that would be sweet!

February 13th, 2012, 04:52 PM	#13
squaregamer476 learning stages Name: M Location: ummmm Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): black 09 kawasaki ninja 250 Posts: 284	time for some frame sliders.

February 13th, 2012, 08:44 PM	#17
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Sucks man. Welcome to the forums. I would never let my friends ride my bike. They would have to have some sort of experience... __________________________________________________

February 13th, 2012, 09:11 PM	#18
KJohnson21 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ken Location: Indio, CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Kawasaki EX250 "Yoshi", '99 Kawasaki Concours "Grace", '06 Concours "Belle", '06 Yamaha YZF600R "Slick" Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 3	__________________________________________________ < ATGATT > Sweat you can wipe off, Road rash you can't. HEY!! Unregistered!! Does your bike have a name?

February 13th, 2012, 09:46 PM	#20
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	I don't let my friends use stuff I care about. __________________________________________________

February 13th, 2012, 09:59 PM	#21
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	I've only let a select few friends ride my bike, and they all have more experience than I do.

February 13th, 2012, 10:03 PM	#22
greenaero Motorcycle Hypermiler Name: Vic Location: Livermore CA Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 1999 & 2005 Kawasaki Ninja 250R's Posts: A lot.	Welcome ! A shame about the damage but the frame and other key structural componenets should be fine. For frame damage you usually see other severe damage: bent forks, broken wheels , radiator displacement etc. You would also usually need to run into something. Hopefully your "friend " will man up and pay for the damage. best wishes, GA

February 13th, 2012, 10:55 PM	#23
Malicious Logic hates stupid people Name: Mark Location: Oklahoma City Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2005 ZX6R Posts: 860	First, welcome to the forum! Secondly, I would've NEVER let a friend ride my brand new bike. That was just asking for him to screw it up. ESPECIALLY if he's never ridden before or hasn't taken MSF. __________________________________________________ My vlogging channel: Ma1iciousLogic

February 14th, 2012, 06:56 AM	#25
GateKeeper ninjette.org member Name: Dan Location: Mississauga Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 250 Ninja - Soon Posts: 96	your frame should be OK, it was only a drop, no major crash, and the bike hit nothing other than the ground, frames are fairly sturdy. Here is a picture of my frame, from the previous owner after he hit something, he crushed the tubing of the frame, but the frame itself stayed in spec, nothing bent in or out, so I would imagine your bike should just be fine. no this is not a Ninja frame.... and this is a picture after we welded up a couple of cover plates to close up the crushed area, and primed afterwards, even after welding frame still stayed true and straight. .

February 15th, 2012, 02:24 AM	#26
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	Hello and welcome.

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