December 29th, 2012, 06:40 AM | #1 |
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Map of NY handgun permit holders
Homes with handguns
It's already public record, but this is a stupid idea. More so if your home isn't on the list.
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December 29th, 2012, 07:22 AM | #2 |
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Most media outlets are retarded.
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December 29th, 2012, 07:39 AM | #3 |
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Within the close quarters of a house a reliable semi automatic shotgun, loaded with 00 buckshot, in the hands of a competent shooter is unbeatable. I'm not checking from my phone but the title says handgun...
Don't get me wrong, handguns are very useful for when you don't have something bigger, but a good shotgun will take down anyone indoors. |
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December 29th, 2012, 10:36 PM | #4 |
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Shotgun are devastating.... but a little slow to bring to target... it's a fact. Asking any SEAL what is his weapon of choice.
I'd be more inclined to use #2 shot (won't penetrate two layers of wallboard and I don't want any collateral damage). Now a "sawed off" shotgun (which is illegal) in the hands of someone less skilled is almost as good as a pistol in the hands of a competent warrior.
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December 30th, 2012, 06:43 AM | #5 |
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What a short-sighted move on the paper's part, especially in light of the current debate over weapons.
If we disregard the knee-jerk "all guns should be banned" outcry (wouldn't work anyway, with hundreds of millions of firearms already out there), the real issue is access. People who should not have them are getting hold of them illegally -- often through theft. Someone bent on mass murder who does not have legal access to guns is going to get them any way he can. This happened in Columbine, in Newtown and in Rochester. What better way to tell people where to go to get a gun illegally than to publish the addresses of people who have them? All that's needed is a little breaking and entering and hey, presto, you're armed. |
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I live in a house made of concrete blocks, inner and otter walls, they'll stop most rounds short of a rifle. I forget that American (or modern) houses are pretty flimsy inside I think it takes 5.56 to break through a single 100mm block layer like the inner walls, 7.62 go straight through a single & a few concentrated rounds will shatter blockwork & get through an otter double layer pretty easily |
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December 30th, 2012, 09:03 PM | #7 | |
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December 31st, 2012, 06:50 AM | #9 |
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And now, her come Fienstein
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/fe...-ban-bill.aspx
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December 31st, 2012, 11:54 AM | #11 |
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If you live in NY and are not on this map you better get yourself on it ASAP unless you want to be robbed at gun point.
Also, I'm pretty sure that I saw on CNN that the Newtown shooter got his guns from his parents who left them unlocked. Seems to me like they were legally brought into his house. |
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BTW, before you get your red, white, and blue panties all in a twist, I happen to disagree with the paper's actions in this case. I also happen to wonder, who will be responsible for any acts of violence perpetrated against the reporters and other newspaper employees whose addresses and phone numbers were also published in "retaliation" for the paper's original story? You? Everyone else who can, in any remote manner, find offense in the original story? Maybe what we need is a never-ending escalation of provocations and counter-provocations until we can get that full-blown civil war that a certain fringe minority is working so hard to prep for and seems so desperately to want. Or maybe, we can just start acting like grownups and get down to the business of rebuilding our nation's economy and reputation, and being the great country we used to be, and can be again. |
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December 31st, 2012, 01:12 PM | #13 |
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FACT: Most people are shot with their own guns, in their own homes.
As a parent I want my child as far away from you and your childish vigilante fantasies as possible. He is not allowed anywhere near your house. Your child is more than welcome to come play at my house. Protected by a security system proven infinitely much safer and effective than your ballistic skills. Armed home invasion is such a ridiculously uncommon crime, your "it's for home protection" excuse is laughable if not pathetic. If you are so scared of life you need a gun to feel safe, what are you doing on a motorcycle? And secondly do your depends undergarments fit under your suit? |
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December 31st, 2012, 01:16 PM | #14 | |
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No gun laws were broken. In any event, the shooter had access to his mom's guns. Which begs the question of whether stricter gun laws would have kept this from happening. Personally I think not. The existing laws prevented the shooter from obtaining his own guns. He was too young to get at CT handgun permit (which, depending on the town, can take months, involve notarized references from employers and other non-family members, as well as extensive background checks… this all applied to me). Connecticut also has a waiting period for long guns that applied to the shooter, which deterred him from buying a rifle a few days before the incident. THE GUN LAWS WORKED EXACTLY AS INTENDED. THEY PREVENTED THE SHOOTER FROM BUYING A GUN. THEY DID NOT STOP THE MASSACRE. Cab305... nice, mature response there, fella. Tell me… do you keep all poisonous materials in your house under lock and key? Perhaps people should think twice about letting their kids near your residence. Let's take a deep breath and consider how responsible adults handle dangerous items and substances with regard to children. This goes for power tools, poisons, knives and other sharp objects, alcohol, medications and, yes, firearms. You teach kids to leave them alone, you restrict access to them by hiding them or locking them up, and you don't make a big deal out of it. This is plain, simple common sense. My handguns are in a safe when I'm not actively handling them. On those rare occasions when kids are in my house they don't know that I own a gun and there's no way I'm going to tell them. Securing a firearm from access by those who should not be handling it is the responsibility of the owner. Any owner who abdicates this responsibility is, frankly, behaving stupidly IMHO. By the way, this responsibility is in fact codified in Connecticut law as follows: Quote:
Note here that the shooter was not a "minor" under the law. However, the principle of responsible storage still applies as far as I'm concerned. I don't care who you are… you're not qualified to handle my firearms without my direct supervision. Period. |
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Honestly, the chances of needing a gun to defend yourself during a home invasion are in fact pretty slim. Chances of my house burning down are also pretty slim, but I carry insurance none the less. Plus, guns are pretty fun.
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Cab, No ill will towards you but John, Andrew, Benji and Chris (thanks for the support guys ) all make more credible arguments then yours. I hope and pray that you (and all others never) have to some face to face with an invader, be they armed with nothing more than the ability to bench press 300lbs, or a club, knife, or gun... or something worse. I take issue with you comments and I've put my comments in red below
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L/Cpl Edwin L. "Tim" Craft USMC, B Co 3rd AT's, Khe Sanh Combat Base, February, 1968The story that goes with this quote can be found here... http://www.togetherweteach.com/Sayin...Craftstory.htm
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