August 25th, 2015, 07:50 AM | #1 |
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my commute route has been tarred and feathered
Well not feathered, but tarred and chipped
On my way to work this morning I had the pleasure of finding out for some unknown reason the county? state? who ever decided to tar and chip a perfectly nice paved road. This is my preferred route to work so i'm a little annoyed especially because they also just put down brand new pavement on another section of my commute route which is pure bliss. might be enough to make me take another way to work Anyone else live in rural dumbville where they tar and chip roads, let alone ones that are paved already?
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August 25th, 2015, 08:02 AM | #2 |
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Ugh. I HATE that stuff.
Avoid for a few weeks at least. Also, be aware that the loose gravel will tend to congregate at T intersections, right at the junction of the T where cars don't roll over it.
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August 25th, 2015, 08:04 AM | #3 |
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Chipseal is more common than not, all over California. On more heavily used roads, it gets smoothed out soon enough so it isn't much of a problem. But elsewhere, it makes for a crappy surface for months or longer. Always frustrating right when it's applied on a fun motorcycling route.
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August 25th, 2015, 08:23 AM | #4 |
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Nothing like being in a bicycle race in the heat of summer and coming onto miles of fresh tar chip.
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August 25th, 2015, 08:45 AM | #5 |
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They did that to my road about a year ago. It sucks at first, but gets better with traffic pounding the gravel down into the tar. Your a dirt rider, don't let it go to your head too much.
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August 25th, 2015, 08:50 AM | #6 |
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Yeah, I find it's a great surface... After about a year.
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August 25th, 2015, 08:55 AM | #7 |
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They do this at my mom's house all the time. Sucks cause then all the rocks get pushed into her grass and mowing the front is like listening to a broken record.
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August 25th, 2015, 08:56 AM | #8 |
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August 25th, 2015, 08:56 AM | #9 |
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Just had a piece of my commute done and there is a roundabout in the middle of it. Looks like a beach around the edges. Don't like that stuff at all.
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August 25th, 2015, 10:16 AM | #10 |
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I had no idea what you guys were talking about. Had to do the Google for this one. And still have no idea what it is! I've never experienced it before. But from looking at pics, I can tell it kinda sucks big time!
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Around here they use a similar method to fill potholes. They just did this on one of my local 2 lane roads, so you go flying down the road and every place there used to be a pot hole now has a bunch of loose gravel. |
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August 25th, 2015, 11:28 AM | #12 |
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They did that on a couple of the side roads around me. Didn't find out till i went that way for something... Nice long road too... I hate the crap too.
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August 25th, 2015, 12:25 PM | #13 | |
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Dumptar & Droprox
They're doing this to a bunch of roads here too. At least now they're coming back a couple weeks later and putting down another layer of tar (or some other type of sealant), which seems to make it slightly less bad. Out in the country, they just sweep the extra gravel off the side and it becomes the shoulder. However, they put the chipseal all the way into the center of town, and it seems they didn't even make an attempt to clean up the excess. For several weeks, there were piles of gravel lining the street. I'm sure it was great when that rainstorm washed it down the drains... Driving the Volt has pointed out just how noisy and inefficient chipseal is. It's getting harder to do around here, but I'll actually take a slightly longer route to avoid it if possible. The only worse thing is when they use chipseal to fix cracks in the road, resulting in gravelly speedbumps. In related news... #PureMichigan Quote:
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August 25th, 2015, 12:26 PM | #14 |
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^^^ WTF!!!! lol
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August 25th, 2015, 12:32 PM | #15 |
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^ x2
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August 25th, 2015, 12:42 PM | #16 |
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Drawing a maze???
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August 25th, 2015, 12:43 PM | #17 |
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Advanced Tron lightcycles or a really good game of snake.
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August 25th, 2015, 12:45 PM | #18 |
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Crap, why didn't i think of snake?!
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August 25th, 2015, 12:46 PM | #19 |
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Insert "tar" and replace with "road" in the appropriate places.
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August 25th, 2015, 01:21 PM | #20 |
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Added the quote to help explain it.
I have a hard time believing all those tarsnakes are covering actual cracks in the road, considering you can see other small cracks between them that aren't covered. On the other hand, I live in MI, so I can believe there would be that many cracks that needed covering (there are a number of comments saying it looks too nice to be a MI road). One of the comments suggested that they might have been just trying to use up the last of the tar at the end of the day. And posted this pic to go along with that theory.
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August 25th, 2015, 04:39 PM | #21 |
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makes me think of a Zebra
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August 27th, 2015, 06:03 AM | #22 |
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They tarred and chipped my parents road. It drives me crazy but it does harden and settle after a few weeks. It will never give you the same cornering confidence that nice pavement does though.
I don't get the reasoning behind tarring and chipping a road. It only lasts a few months and it will need work again next year. What a waste.
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The reason they do it is because it's cheap. They patch and clean up the existing road to get it mostly even, spray some tar down, and drop gravel on it. They might come back and clean off the excess and spray down another layer of tar. It's very little, simple labor, using simple materials and tools. Compared to all the machinery and work needed to lay down new asphalt, I'm sure they're saving a ton of money. But like you said, if it's costing them 1/2 as much and they're doing it 3x as often, they're not actually saving money. I do hate the surface though. I can watch the energy usage jump up when I go from asphalt to chipseal. I'm sure it puts more wear on your tires. And it's just annoyingly loud to drive on. They're saving money by passing costs on to the drivers. Keep that in mind for city council meetings and such.
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August 27th, 2015, 07:57 AM | #24 |
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This thread has funny timing. I had a knock on my door this AM from the road dept. They are going to blacktop over the chipseal they just laid down last year. I doubt my complaints had anything to do with it, but I am glad this stuff is going to be gone soon.
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Tar snakes also do a great job of making your front end feel all wavy when you turn over them
I dislike tar'n'chip. I get that all the time out in the country of NW Ohio. I go for bicycle rides and we'll ride the stuff for miles and miles. All it does is make your manhood numb, as well as your toes, fingers, buttcheeks, everything. Shifting weight around helps temporarily, but you can only resist the buzz for so long. |
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