March 14th, 2015, 03:26 PM | #1 |
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What do you guys clean your pod filters with?
Doing some carb work today and was wondering is there anything special I should use to clean my K&N pod filters with. The pod on my crankcase breather is especially dirty at the moment. I usually just use a tub of mild dishwasher soup and water. I know K&N makes there own cleaner but do you really need that?
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March 14th, 2015, 04:08 PM | #2 |
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run water inside to outside and air dry overnight.
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March 14th, 2015, 05:05 PM | #3 |
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i use the no toil filter oil for my pod so i use the no toil cleaner, i use kerosene for foam dirtbike filters
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March 14th, 2015, 05:56 PM | #4 |
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I personally use a mix of water and Dawn to clean my K&Ns .
BTW I thought we covered the whole pod filters are bad thing for the carburetors?
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March 15th, 2015, 10:21 AM | #5 |
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^ but mom... all the cool kids are doing it
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March 15th, 2015, 10:42 AM | #6 |
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K&N Cleaner let dry overnight, then apply K&N oil.
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March 15th, 2015, 12:22 PM | #7 |
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March 15th, 2015, 03:05 PM | #8 | |
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Okay you asked for it, so here's my 2¢ write-up on the subject,
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Let just take a minute to think about Kawasaki invested so much time, materials, and money into the airbox? Do you think for one minute if they could get away with a simple pod filters they would have done that already.
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March 15th, 2015, 04:12 PM | #9 |
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What's the result of providing the carb with turbulent air? Is it just inconsistency in the tune?
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March 15th, 2015, 04:25 PM | #10 |
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The airbox is also designed to quiet down the intake side. Part of the noise and emissions regulations. Its been proven the pods make more peak HP. But to each his own. Not a huge difference in any case. I did away with it for the ease and convenience after removing the airbox.
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March 15th, 2015, 05:01 PM | #11 |
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+1. Life is just easier without airboxes. Why can't people just do what they want?
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March 15th, 2015, 05:41 PM | #12 |
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March 15th, 2015, 05:47 PM | #13 |
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March 15th, 2015, 07:47 PM | #14 |
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I'm not arguing that fact the pods don't make more peak HP, although marginal, but for everyday street use, your better sticking with the OEM airbox, better, smoother and more reliable performance.
After all a dyno is a stationary device, so the air flow the carburetors are less prone to air turbulence, as in the real world or riding on the street. Try your dyno run, and then wave a fan around the carburetors to disrupt and cause turbulence. If your building a track bike, then by all means go pods, after all on the track your running in the upper RPMs, so no worries about street ability. I'm not say that the bike won't run with the pods, it will. I'm just saying for street use they simply are not worth the aggravation they cause. Been there, done that, smoked that. If you truly want to improve the carburetors, then spend the money and time and replace the CV ones, with Flat Side type carburetors, but these also have a downside. keep in mind that flat sides are great. Around the street, normal driving, not as good as a well tuned CV carb. Flat sides are mostly for race track use. CV carbs, when working properly, give better low RPM and throttle change performance. Flat sides can bog on large throttle changes. Racing is mostly large throttle conditions, not stop and go traffic.... Fuel economy suffers too with a flat side. It like asking are racing slicks better then regular street tires? The answer depends...If you are on the highway in a light rain, racing slicks are awful.... If you are racing, racing slicks are perfect for the job..... IMHO, and price was no object, replace them with a VM series round slide mikuni and be done with it. As my famous saying goes, I'm not your mom and I'm not paying for your parts, so do whatever you want with your own bike.
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March 16th, 2015, 10:29 AM | #15 |
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If I were to replace anything it would be swapping the carbs for EFI. I do agree with getting things right on the carbs is a hassle but it's worth it when you hit the highway.
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March 16th, 2015, 10:33 AM | #16 |
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Now your talking, that would be the end game for sure.
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