Cops leaving motorcyclists alone

[Hero Danny]

Had an argument with my brother, he used to ride a CBR600 and he said he would fly by cops going 150 MPH and they wouldn't even bother him. He tried to tell me that the reason was that cops don't really care about bikes and will 9 times out of 10 leave them alone (they do go after bikes but not as often as cars). He said that the few times they went after him he just would run away and he never got caught. (He's really stupid and lucky).

I think that is bull----. I feel like cops don't care what you are riding they will pull you over...

So here's where my argument becomes your business (lol).

What do you guy's think? Do you believe that cops are more lenient to bikes? I only have 300 miles under my belt where as my brother has over 50,000 so he likes to use that argument... But I know a lot of you have more than 50k so what's your opinion?

[alex.s]

sounds like an idiot to me.

[Rogue]

I can give you the names of a few folks who can definitely verify that cops do indeed care how fast you're going on a motorcycle. Even in the middle of no where with no one else around, they care.

[csmith12]

Heard that a few times now. I don't find it to be true though.

[Ninja Bob]

If they think it's going to turn into a high speed chase, they're less likely to bother. Protocol is to drop pursuit if giving chase will only make the situation more dangerous. Basically, it would turn a single joyrider (that will eventually slow down) into an ongoing, frantic movement of a single rider and a couple tons of car trying to keep up with him. If the joyrider crashes, especially on the highway, he's likely to be the only casualty.

With that said, I would not attempt this on a ninjette. A cop can keep up with you. If he's got a keen eye and ear for motorcycles, he will know you're riding two wheeled lawnmower. One didn't hesitate to come after me when I was going 95mph.

[tfkrocks]

Oh they care. Sometimes they'll follow you home with a plane.

https://local.nixle.com/alert/5173610/?sub_id=905882

Oh and here's a video from the plane: http://www.ktvu.com/videos/news/high...tricks/vCZCP6/

[Alex]

[Hero Danny]

Wow those responses were fast.

Thanks everyone, I agree with you. Especially Ninja bob. I see what you are saying that they sometimes let it go out of laziness.

My ninja couldn't even go that fast... I think my ninja would top out at somewhere around the 100 MPH mark, which I really don't think I will go near any time soon.

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I guess the point he was trying to make though, is that if a car was going 100 MPH and flew by a cop, the chances of the cop going after him are nearly 100% where as a bike it would be much, much lower... I agree it would be lower, but I still think you're playing with fire.

And as for him being an idiot, I love him, but he is an idiot. I remember watching him flying by doing wheelies going 80+ Mph, he claims he's done them going much faster too. He doesn't ride anymore though, after totaling his bike (big surprise).

[Jono]

I think it depends on where you live. In Memphis I feel that bikes get away with alot more than cars do.

The cops around here are busy with real criminals.

[CC Cowboy]

Cops now have radios and they love to impound bikes if you go 20MPH over the limit.

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by Hero Danny

I guess the point he was trying to make though, is that if a car was going 100 MPH and flew by a cop, the chances of the cop going after him are nearly 100% where as a bike it would be much, much lower... I agree it would be lower, but I still think you're playing with fire.

chances of a cop initiating a chase of a vehicle going 100mph: 99%

chances of a cop initiating a chase of a vehicle going 150mph: 1%

chances of a cop calling the cop down the road to set up a road block to arrest you later: 100%

[jeffb502]

Top speed of a Crown Victoria Police Interceptor is 120mph with the 3.55 gear ratio or 129 with the 3.27 gear ratio. Post-2006 Interceptors were supposedly limited to 140mph. If it's a lonely officer in a smaller jurisdiction by himself sitting on the side of the road with no air support and somebody blows by doing 150, the chances of catching the speeder are not good. Is it worth the risk to the public? Individual department policy and officer discretion will come in to play in the decision to pull out and attempt to catch up or just stay put and get on the radio.

I'd fully expect an officer to pull me over if I was doing 100-110. A rider doing 150 raises interesting questions and may require different tactics.

[NevadaWolf]

I highly doubt it is out of laziness of the office or apathy towards the rider.

Public safety is paramont in chases, how often do you see cops give up when the environment gets too crowded with other traffic or pedestrians? Chasing a speeding car can be done when the car is limited to the same space the officer is. A bike, especially when ridden by a moron, can slip into places cars cannot fit further endangering the officer, the rider, and others.

LEOs have other tools available to them; radios, planes, choppers, to name some. Your brother's luck will run out.

[Compooky]

Like other people have said, a cop isn't going to risk causing an accident just to catch someone speeding. Besides, they could just get your plate number and vehicle description from the dashcam and wait outside your house. And congratulations on being the smart child in your family.

[Singh2jz]

Originally Posted by tfkrocks

Oh they care. Sometimes they'll follow you home with a plane.

https://local.nixle.com/alert/5173610/?sub_id=905882

Oh and here's a video from the plane: http://www.ktvu.com/videos/news/high...tricks/vCZCP6/

I saw that video on the news one day and was shocked how legit their cameras were even from really far away! Now I know what it means when the speed limit signs say radar enforced by plane lol.

[fishdip]

As a person who has run from the cops many times. 99.99% of the time they will chase after you. I have only been busted one time after running tho. As I have gotten older I no longer do it.

[CC Cowboy]

Originally Posted by jeffb502

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I'd fully expect an officer to pull me over if I was doing 100-110. A rider doing 150 raises interesting questions and may require different tactics.

I got pulled over, when I was younger, clocked at 149MPH on Route 50 headed to Skyline Drive. I guess I could have run from him but the guy I was with didn't have a fast enough bike. Actually, I never run, I just hire an attorney.
The cop was in a Mustang and I told him I thought he was a kid trying to race.

[csmith12]

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

I got pulled over, when I was younger, clocked at 149MPH on Route 50 headed to Skyline Drive. I guess I could have run from him but the guy I was with didn't have a fast enough bike. Actually, I never run, I just hire an attorney.
The cop was in a Mustang and I told him I thought he was a kid trying to race.

So that means you lost the race then...

[CC Cowboy]

Originally Posted by csmith12

So that means you lost the race then...

Let's just say he cheated when he put his flashing lights on.

I've had a few of what I would today call stupid moves on the highway. Last year I did 185MPH on route 4 but just for a few miles. My buddy thought his Ducati was fast. I told him it's nice but a 916 is an antique.

[Hero Danny]

I've never seen a cop in a mustang before.. I do see them in camaro's all the time though... #whatourtaxespayfor

[Hero Danny]

Originally Posted by Compooky

Besides, they could just get your plate number and vehicle description from the dashcam

When he wanted to drive really fast he would always bend his plate up.

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

I've had a few of what I would today call stupid moves on the highway. Last year I did 185MPH on route 4 but just for a few miles.

Yeah he rode like that a few times... I am a much less risky person. Than you or my bro.

Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

Your brother's luck will run out.

His luck pretty much already did run out, he hasn't owned a bike in over 10 years. Ever since he was doing 80 MPH wheelie and hit a pothole and fell on his back.. Lucky he had his Joe Rocket jacket on or who knows what condition he would be in today... he messed up his ankle a bit but other than that he was super lucky..

[csmith12]

Originally Posted by Hero Danny

I've never seen a cop in a mustang before.. I do see them in camaro's all the time though... #whatourtaxespayfor

Interceptors

[Red250R]

I rarely every speed. Not only because the cops around here are extremely strict with motorcyclists, but i really don't feel the need to. Everywhere i need to go is within an hour. Going 15-20 mph the speed limit will only get me there, with no traffic which is rare, about 5 mins sooner. I never leave myself that short amount of time to get anywhere. For work, I'm a minimum of 15 mins early all the time sitting in the parking lot waiting. Even when i take long trips on the thruway, in my car even, i usually don't go more than 9-10 mph over. And that's pushing it. I just don't see a reason to speed. Not worth it in my eyes.

To answer you're question, I have heard that cops will pull off of a chase if they deem it to be too dangerous. I've spoken to guys that live in my general area that have outrun cops but have also gotten home to a trooper sitting around the corner of their house waiting for them to get home. The technology that they have in those cars is getting beyond ridiculous. Those scanners they have can process like 2 license plates a second from a reasonable distance too. Correct me if I'm wrong but i think that's right.

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

Cops now have radios and they love to impound bikes if you go 20MPH over the limit.

Same around me. I know several guys who had their bikes impounded for going 21/22 mph over. On a friday too. $200 a day they told me. Impound closed on weekend.

Originally Posted by jeffb502

Top speed of a Crown Victoria Police Interceptor is 120mph with the 3.55 gear ratio or 129 with the 3.27 gear ratio. Post-2006 Interceptors were supposedly limited to 140mph. If it's a lonely officer in a smaller jurisdiction by himself sitting on the side of the road with no air support and somebody blows by doing 150, the chances of catching the speeder are not good. Is it worth the risk to the public? Individual department policy and officer discretion will come in to play in the decision to pull out and attempt to catch up or just stay put and get on the radio.

I'd fully expect an officer to pull me over if I was doing 100-110. A rider doing 150 raises interesting questions and may require different tactics.

Erie County/State officers, from local police to state and everything in between, got a nice little increase in their budget and bought all new vehicles last year. Most of them received new 2013 dodge chargers. Bunch of 2013 ford taurus, ford explorer, and a couple others i cant think of. Bullspit because its harder to pick them out by their headlights/tail lights.

[csmith12]

Originally Posted by jeffb502

Top speed of a Crown Victoria Police Interceptor is 120mph

Hmmm, if true, I bet they regret that...

Wonder what the specs on the chargers are?

[alex.s]

LAPD will chase you with lambos!

http://jalopnik.com/the-lapd-now-has...ity-1544901918

[Motofool]

To me, it is about the potential for causing destruction of each type of vehicle.

A motorcycle+rider (mass ~ 540 lb) rolling at 100 mph and then hitting a car can only cause 13% of the damage a Ford Crown Victoria+LEO moving as fast could (mass ~ 3,980 lb) .

[Sirref]

Originally Posted by Rogue

I can give you the names of a few folks who can definitely verify that cops do indeed care how fast you're going on a motorcycle. Even in the middle of no where with no one else around, they care.

I'm one of them, that said it depends on which town the officer is from. Some towns have no chase regulations where they light up but don't follow if you don't stop and others will go after you until they get to tackle you to the ground and beat the **** out of you for laughs

Originally Posted by fishdip

As a person who has run from the cops many times. 99.99% of the time they will chase after you. I have only been busted one time after running tho. As I have gotten older I no longer do it.

how bad did it turn out after they arrested you?

[cbinker]

150 dang, must have been a long straight.

[Sirref]

Originally Posted by cbinker

150 dang, must have been a long straight.

It doesn't take too long to hit 150 on a literbike, it's already reasonably achievable on a 600 too. A long straight would likely help but a few high speed sweepers wouldn't require you to slow down much.

[fishdip]

Originally Posted by Sirref

I'm one of them, that said it depends on which town the officer is from. Some towns have no chase regulations where they light up but don't follow if you don't stop and others will go after you until they get to tackle you to the ground and beat the **** out of you for laughs



how bad did it turn out after they arrested you?

Not bad they did not get me on the bike. So I did a plea deal of http://definitions.uslegal.com/o/obs...tal-operation/
The best part it did not go on my driving recurred 1 day jail and the original speeding ticket they try to pull me over for 145 in a 30 they never even gave me. They seen what area I went in to so the went door to door. the guy across the street told them I had a bike just like the one they are looking for so they got a warrant and found the bike.

[cbinker]

Originally Posted by Sirref

It doesn't take too long to hit 150 on a literbike, it's already reasonably achievable on a 600 too. A long straight would likely help but a few high speed sweepers wouldn't require you to slow down much.

have you ever gone 150+ on a 600cc, not on the speedo, but actual speed? It takes a lot more then a good sweeper. I got my ZX14 up to 165 before running out of road.

[Sirref]

Originally Posted by tfkrocks

Oh they care. Sometimes they'll follow you home with a plane.

https://local.nixle.com/alert/5173610/?sub_id=905882

Oh and here's a video from the plane: http://www.ktvu.com/videos/news/high...tricks/vCZCP6/

that's crazy, I can even tell what kind of exhaust it has from that camera

don't fly down the highway in the middle of the day, too easy to get caught when you do that

Originally Posted by cbinker

have you ever gone 150+ on a 600cc, not on the speedo, but actual speed? It takes a lot more then a good sweeper. I got my ZX14 up to 165 before running out of road.

nope, I've gotten to ride a few but I never got gps recording on the speed. I've gotten a cbr1000rr up to 187 on the speedo which is the speed I like to stick to but I'm not really sure what the genuine top speed of a 600 is, I'm just assuming that it's in the mid 160s since that makes sense to me.

[cbinker]

Originally Posted by Sirref

that's crazy, I can even tell what kind of exhaust it has from that camera

don't fly down the highway in the middle of the day, too easy to get caught when you do that



nope, I've gotten to ride a few but I never got gps recording on the speed. I've gotten a cbr1000rr up to 187 on the speedo which is the speed I like to stick to but I'm not really sure what the genuine top speed of a 600 is, I'm just assuming that it's in the mid 160s since that makes sense to me.

they can do 170+, but it takes a while to get there.

[Rifleman]

I'll tell you where the real difference is, sport bike vs. tour/cruise

If I ran open headers on my TL, I'd get pulled over by every black and white I passed, but for some reason "hardlies" can roll all over town with straight pipes and narry a cherry.

the other thing, put 4 sport bikes together... ya'll gonna get pulled over.

if you ride by yourself and don't get too stupid, should be fairly ok.

[nickjpass]

Originally Posted by Red250R

Bullspit because its harder to pick them out by their headlights/tail lights.

haha YES same problem here

their cars are pretty quick...

[jgcable]

Don't listen to your brother. He is a classic example of a squid.. or more accurately.. an idiot who shouldn't be on 2 wheels or EVER giving advise to a new rider or any rider for that matter.

[capt_bugaloo]

Around here the cops have those evil looking Dodge Charger Pursuits.

I doubt I can outrun one with a 250.

[rasta]

Cops sometimes have common sense. If they see a guy weaving through traffic at 150 mph, are they gonna be able to catch him in a relatively safe manner? Probably not.

[cbinker]

Originally Posted by rasta

Cops sometimes have common sense. If they see a guy weaving through traffic at 150 mph, are they gonna be able to catch him in a relatively safe manner? Probably not.

radios can always travel faster.

[CZroe]

Originally Posted by cbinker

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Yep. "You can't outrun a Motorola."