bORED? how much the swinger weighs

crazymadbastard · January 16th, 2015, 08:56 AM

I am sure it is iron not aluminum, and heavy...

baxtc1 · January 17th, 2015, 03:38 AM

Swingarm? Steel, hollow and not heavy.

corksil · January 17th, 2015, 11:21 PM

The swingarm has been my 'object of interest' as well lately in terms of weight reduction.

Frame is light, fairings are light, battery is heavy for it's size, but helps to stabilize an-already-very-light-bike-and-short-wheelbase-for-it's-size...

That dang swing arm... How can we find a lighter one? Carbon fiber -- too expensive. Aluminum -- probably not strong enough. Dangit that heavy swing arm is the terd in the punch bowl in terms of weight reduction..

If anyone has any clever ideas, don't hesitate..

fishdip · January 18th, 2015, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corksil

The swingarm has been my 'object of interest' as well lately in terms of weight reduction.

Frame is light, fairings are light, battery is heavy for it's size, but helps to stabilize an-already-very-light-bike-and-short-wheelbase-for-it's-size...

That dang swing arm... How can we find a lighter one? Carbon fiber -- too expensive. Aluminum -- probably not strong enough. Dangit that heavy swing arm is the terd in the punch bowl in terms of weight reduction..

If anyone has any clever ideas, don't hesitate..

And how heavy is it?

fast1075 · January 18th, 2015, 04:33 AM

The stock swingarm is as bare bones as it comes. Thin wall square tubing on a pivot and suspension mounts strong enough for the job. There are other areas where it would be easier to lose the weight for a lot less money than a custom arm.

I have an arm at my shop. I will be going there today. If I can find my scale, Ill weigh it.

fishdip · January 18th, 2015, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fast1075

The stock swingarm is as bare bones as it comes. Thin wall square tubing on a pivot and suspension mounts strong enough for the job. There are other areas where it would be easier to lose the weight for a lot less money than a custom arm.

I have an arm at my shop. I will be going there today. If I can find my scale, Ill weigh it.

Like him dropping 20 pounds.

subxero · January 18th, 2015, 06:49 AM

not sure how easy swing arm swaps are on the n250, it's like opening bag of worms. Any decent swing arm will be made to take a larger wheel and tire so you will have to either create spacers to keep current wheel or just use bigger. With that comes maybe having to get a different front sprocket to keep the chain in line IDK?

either way, the Fz6 swingers are very popular for smaller bike swing arm swaps as it is not a very wide one at the pivot so it can be fairly easily made to fit.

Racer x · January 18th, 2015, 07:20 AM

First gen swingam is ten pounds

Second gen swingam is about twelve pounds.

I extended my swingam four inches to make room for stuff and the bike feels great. 140 tire fits great.

fast1075 · January 18th, 2015, 02:38 PM

The pregen arm I have, with the links still on it weighs 11 pounds 7 1/4 ounces.

crazymadbastard · January 18th, 2015, 03:14 PM

10lbs is not much,gonna try to weigh alternative one made of aluminum tomorrow That i got.

crazymadbastard · January 19th, 2015, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corksil

The swingarm has been my 'object of interest' as well lately in terms of weight reduction.

If anyone has any clever ideas, don't hesitate..

I have an all aluminum one pics to follow. Weighs 6lbs bare but with bearings in there and wire bracket. It is 10 inches wide at the wheel axle.

corksil · January 22nd, 2015, 11:39 PM

^^ are you offering it up for sale?

I've also been running a 140 rear tire on the oem 09' swing arm with no clearance issues.

crazymadbastard · January 23rd, 2015, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corksil

^^ are you offering it up for sale?

I've also been running a 140 rear tire on the oem 09' swing arm with no clearance issues.

Not for sale! going to see tomorrow if i can mod it to fit my pregen...

sharky nrk · January 23rd, 2015, 07:28 AM

Did the ZZR250 come with an aluminum swinger to match the frame? It was a 17in rear wheel so if so that would seem like a good potential swap.

crazymadbastard · January 23rd, 2015, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharky nrk

Did the ZZR250 come with an aluminum swinger to match the frame? It was a 17in rear wheel so if so that would seem like a good potential swap.

Ok fine! I will spill the beans on what I got. Its a zx600r 1992 swinger. I bought the front and rear suspensions/wheels. I want twin front discs and the rear is 3 inch wide. Only going to run 16 inch wheel, I am fine with that- just going for looks.

verboten1 · January 23rd, 2015, 08:44 AM

That looks familiar. I fit a first gen SV650 wheel and tire in the old ninja 600 swinger.

BlownWideOpen · January 23rd, 2015, 11:09 AM

Does anyone know the weight on the ZZR 250 one, or if it even works?

crazymadbastard · January 27th, 2015, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by verboten1

That looks familiar. I fit a first gen SV650 wheel and tire in the old ninja 600 swinger.

what size is that wheel tire combo?

January 16th, 2015, 08:56 AM	#1
crazymadbastard I'm crazy,your excuse is? Name: Winston Location: Connecticut Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 250 2007 ninja Posts: A lot.	bORED? how much the swinger weighs I am sure it is iron not aluminum, and heavy... __________________________________________________ My Cafe Racer Build My intro post

January 17th, 2015, 03:38 AM	#2
baxtc1 ninjette.org member Name: Robert Location: South of you blokes. Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): '92 GPX 250 (Gone and replaced with '08 V-Strom), 2005 Suzuki C50. Posts: 186	Swingarm? Steel, hollow and not heavy. __________________________________________________ Originally Posted by jgcable; I ride a 2006 Custom HD Wideglide..... and I almost have to sign autographs when I park it.

January 17th, 2015, 11:21 PM	#3
corksil ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: TC Location: Hawaii Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): A lot. Posts: A lot.	The swingarm has been my 'object of interest' as well lately in terms of weight reduction. Frame is light, fairings are light, battery is heavy for it's size, but helps to stabilize an-already-very-light-bike-and-short-wheelbase-for-it's-size... That dang swing arm... How can we find a lighter one? Carbon fiber -- too expensive. Aluminum -- probably not strong enough. Dangit that heavy swing arm is the terd in the punch bowl in terms of weight reduction.. If anyone has any clever ideas, don't hesitate.. __________________________________________________ Just batshit crazy. All his posts are endless diatribes. Some are actually entertaining but mostly batshit crazy.

January 18th, 2015, 04:33 AM	#5
fast1075 ninjette.org guru Name: harry Location: Central Florida Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250, 2004 Buell XB12s, Honda 110 Elite Posts: 332	Look elsewhere The stock swingarm is as bare bones as it comes. Thin wall square tubing on a pivot and suspension mounts strong enough for the job. There are other areas where it would be easier to lose the weight for a lot less money than a custom arm. I have an arm at my shop. I will be going there today. If I can find my scale, Ill weigh it. __________________________________________________ "They don't pay me enough to ride this thing!" Kenny Roberts after winning the Indy Mile on the TZ750 powered Grand National bike.

January 18th, 2015, 06:49 AM	#7
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	not sure how easy swing arm swaps are on the n250, it's like opening bag of worms. Any decent swing arm will be made to take a larger wheel and tire so you will have to either create spacers to keep current wheel or just use bigger. With that comes maybe having to get a different front sprocket to keep the chain in line IDK? either way, the Fz6 swingers are very popular for smaller bike swing arm swaps as it is not a very wide one at the pivot so it can be fairly easily made to fit. __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

January 18th, 2015, 07:20 AM	#8
Racer x ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Iowa City Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawmeracchi 350 2010 Project X Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 54 MOTM - Sep '18, Feb '16	First gen swingam is ten pounds Second gen swingam is about twelve pounds. I extended my swingam four inches to make room for stuff and the bike feels great. 140 tire fits great. __________________________________________________ Top speed 123.369mph. Ohio mile Worlds fastest 250 ninja
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January 18th, 2015, 02:38 PM	#9
fast1075 ninjette.org guru Name: harry Location: Central Florida Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250, 2004 Buell XB12s, Honda 110 Elite Posts: 332	The pregen arm I have, with the links still on it weighs 11 pounds 7 1/4 ounces. __________________________________________________ "They don't pay me enough to ride this thing!" Kenny Roberts after winning the Indy Mile on the TZ750 powered Grand National bike.

January 18th, 2015, 03:14 PM	#10
crazymadbastard I'm crazy,your excuse is? Name: Winston Location: Connecticut Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 250 2007 ninja Posts: A lot.	10lbs is not much,gonna try to weigh alternative one made of aluminum tomorrow That i got. __________________________________________________ My Cafe Racer Build My intro post

January 22nd, 2015, 11:39 PM	#12
corksil ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: TC Location: Hawaii Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): A lot. Posts: A lot.	^^ are you offering it up for sale? I've also been running a 140 rear tire on the oem 09' swing arm with no clearance issues. __________________________________________________ Just batshit crazy. All his posts are endless diatribes. Some are actually entertaining but mostly batshit crazy.

January 23rd, 2015, 07:28 AM	#14
sharky nrk Fighting Texas Aggie '05 Name: Neil Location: Hutto, TX Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.	Did the ZZR250 come with an aluminum swinger to match the frame? It was a 17in rear wheel so if so that would seem like a good potential swap. __________________________________________________ Keep it rubber side down and enjoy the ride Get healthy - Get Fit - Change Your Life Click Here Or PM Me To Find More - Advocare

January 23rd, 2015, 08:44 AM	#16
verboten1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Monroe, MI Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): '75 CB550:.'82 XV920:.'00 KLR650:.'00 EX250:.'08 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTM - June '15	That looks familiar. I fit a first gen SV650 wheel and tire in the old ninja 600 swinger. __________________________________________________ '82 XV920: Soon to be tracker--'00 KLR685:adv --'04 DRZ400E--'12 Super Tenere --'13 Versys Ride more, worry less.

January 23rd, 2015, 11:09 AM	#17
BlownWideOpen ninjette.org guru Name: Artie Location: Canada Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): Stuff Posts: 284	Does anyone know the weight on the ZZR 250 one, or if it even works? __________________________________________________ Paint side up, rubber side down!

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