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Old March 30th, 2015, 02:40 PM   #1
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Does this look like 148 mph to you?

Does this look like 148 mph to you? Whilst he is going a bit quicker than the cars I am having trouble believing the police video figures.

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Old March 30th, 2015, 02:52 PM   #2
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It's hard to tell 148 from 142 but I'm going with 142. I'd fight that insisting on having the copper's video figures varified
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Old March 30th, 2015, 03:22 PM   #3
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I do quite a lot of motorway in the UK and general traffic 'flow' seldom exceeds 70 by much. I gauge him more in the 95 to 100 bracket, certainly not 78mph faster than the traffic. No way.

ps Where did you get 142 from
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there aint no way. i've done 150 plenty of times. that's MAX 120. when he passed by the car it was closer to 80
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Old March 30th, 2015, 05:11 PM   #5
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Yeah... even when I did 120 in my car I was passing like they did at "148".... makes no sense to me.. I smell bacon.
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Old March 31st, 2015, 01:25 AM   #7
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yea that don't look like 148..
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Old March 31st, 2015, 05:27 AM   #8
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Maybe he meant kmph :P xD
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of course I must ask, what is a "Motorcycle Bobby" in the UK doing with a radar system reading in ...

... wait for it...

FRICKING MILES PER HOUR?!?!?!?


I was under the impression that they claim to be all refined by using the MKS system.

plus that looks to be the speed of the bobby, not the speed of the suspect... in the frame where they pause and show a buck 48... the persuing unit is catching up to the suspect at a pretty good clip.

{joe pesci voice} Yer ahnr, I find it hard to believe dat da persuin' constable could operate his radar thingy in such a way as to pick my clients v-hickle outta da considerable amount of road traffic on the M11 dat day {pesci voice/}
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Old March 31st, 2015, 06:51 AM   #10
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First off, the 148 mph is the rate of speed of the officer himself and not the motorcyclist in front of him. The officer has a closing rate of ~ 40 mph. If the suspect were to be going 148 mph, then the officer is operating a WSB class super bike to chase him down. We can also tell that the speed measuring device is not operating in forward scan but is slaved to the officer's speedometer. Those times when the officer isn't lined up with the rider, the speed doesn't shift or change for the suspect shifting out of frame and the speed remains constant with the officer's rate and not what's going on in front of him. Otherwise, according to the officer's own evidence, they were either in the middle of a NASCAR lap or his equipment was malfunctioning. The parts where the motorcyclist gets out from in front of the officer would have the cars going 116 mph along with the semi-trucks as well. This should be an easy case to shoot down if the guy had a lawyer that wasn't sleeping or a judge that apparently wasn't corrupt and trying to bring his personal feelings of hatred against bikers and threw the book at him and probably levied a nice fat fine as well.
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of course I must ask, what is a "Motorcycle Bobby" in the UK doing with a radar system reading in ...

... wait for it...

FRICKING MILES PER HOUR?!?!?!?


I was under the impression that they claim to be all refined by using the MKS system.
No we still use MPH and Miles though unfortunately had kilogrammes and litres imposed on us so MPG calculations have to involve a conversion factor.
I still have my imperial socket spanner set too, just in case I decide to restore a Frogeye Sprite, or Triumph TR3
I was disappointed when the Australians surrendered to kilometers, (bloody Sydney cosmopolitan liberals I expect) I thought the land of mad max would be the last holdout of imperial.
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ps Where did you get 142 from
I took the time and the number of white lane stripes (for distance) passed in that time and did some fancy (government type) math.

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TR3 was my first car. I don't remember it going 148mph. I do remember it feeling like it was going 148mph. I didn't get my first ticket until I upgraded (a word not allowed on this forum) to a XK150S. That car was fast for way back then, even though it was already an old car when I had it.
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Old March 31st, 2015, 09:04 AM   #13
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I didn't get my first ticket until I upgraded (a word not allowed on this forum) to a XK150S. That car was fast for way back then, even though it was already an old car when I had it.
The TR engine was derived from a ferguson tractor unit
The XK150 engine, on the other hand, was a thing of engineering beauty. A stunner as mass production engines go

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Old March 31st, 2015, 09:33 AM   #14
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148 kph = 92 mph
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148 kph = 92 mph
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This is in the UK
Just to be clear he was charged with riding at 238 kph
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Old March 31st, 2015, 11:00 AM   #16
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This is in the UK
Just to be clear he was charged with riding at 238 kph


He looks like he is doing 92 when it said 148 mph

I guess that is just a coincidence?
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did he have a radar gun lock that we do not see.
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At times when the displayed speed is way up in the 100s they seem to be keeping up with traffic.

Unless the regular traffic flow there is in the 100s of miles an hour, it looks like the numbers are a little off.
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Nope, when he was following the bike at an indicated speed of 110-115, they were hardly going 20mph faster than traffic. There's no way.

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Old April 3rd, 2015, 01:57 PM   #20
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148 KPH = 91.6- mph.....I think Ninjinsky guesses best
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148 KPH = 91.6- mph.....I think Ninjinsky guesses best
Except the three letters next to the speed is Mph not Kph.
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Except the three letters next to the speed is Mph not Kph.
Exactly, At risk of repeating myself it is ALL in Miles per hour. The UK DOES NOT USE KILOMETERS at all, despite the fact that Several Americans here seem to think we do
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Exactly, At risk of repeating myself it is ALL in Miles per hour. The UK DOES NOT USE KILOMETERS at all, despite the fact that Several Americans here seem to think we do
3 questions

Can cars in UK switch from MPH to KPH?
My Subaru and Ninja can.

Is it possible to hack the system to display MPH when set to KPH?

Is that spelled out clear enough for you to understand?
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Something is a miss here. There is NO WAY that is 148mph. The environment tells the tale. The dashes between the lanes, the poles holding up the guardrail, how fast trees and signage goes by. To anyone who has "actually" been traveling 150mph, it's all too obvious. But if you know the distance between the dashes painted on the road, you can begin to calculate speed based on how long it takes to pass between them.

Assuming anything remotely close to the US, each dash is 10ft long and the distance between dashes is 30ft. If you slow down the vid, the chase officer was actually doing 148mph for a brief moment to catch the lead bike, but clearly... the bike was not traveling that same speed.
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3 questions

Can cars in UK switch from MPH to KPH?
My Subaru and Ninja can.

Is it possible to hack the system to display MPH when set to KPH?

Is that spelled out clear enough for you to understand?
1 I don't know, my car still uses bendy wire and a dial This is the official police speed gear not the car/ or bike speedo.

2 I doubt a cop would actually hack his radar gun. if he had those electronic skills he would probably have a better job

3 Yes, why didn't you say that in your OP?
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