June 9th, 2014, 08:43 AM | #1 |
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How hard can you flog these bikes?
My 2003 has 4300 miles on it. It runs mint. Has new tires. Every maintenance item has been done. Anyway.. I shift normally at 8K. Yesterday I found myself shifting at between 10K and 12K many times. It seems to me that shifting around 8K is the perfect amount of RPMS. The clutch just slides into gear with little to know hesitation providing you match the RPMS as close as possible. Its almost like power shifting.
The other thing I notice is my bike feels the best when I am beating the snot out of it.. but that leads to the question.. am I or is what I am doing normal? I have been riding for a long time but its a little hard to accept how great these motors are at the very high RPM range. That leads me to another observation. A beginner rider with one of these bikes and after a few months they feel they have "graduated" up to a bigger bike is actually sad because most likely they have never even been over 6k rpms and the fun doesn't start until between 8K and 10K. |
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June 9th, 2014, 08:45 AM | #2 |
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Perfectly normal for our bikes.
A combination of low-displacement with carburetors feeding our bikes gives us an almost turbo-like action without having to rev up to suicidal speeds on the street. |
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June 9th, 2014, 09:13 AM | #3 |
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How hard can you flog these bikes?
Pretty damn hard. With a little tweaking, a mod or two here and there, You can easily set a bonafide land speed record of 123+ mph. |
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June 9th, 2014, 09:16 AM | #4 | |
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June 9th, 2014, 09:16 AM | #5 |
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June 9th, 2014, 09:54 AM | #6 |
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If you want the full potential from the little Ninja you need to shift it above 8000 - that's just where the fun starts! The engine is designed and tuned to make most of it's power near redline - especially a Pregen.
As long as you do the proper maintenance and keep everything in spec, you aren't doing any harm. If you are concerned about engine wear, use a top notch synthetic oil and change it regularly. The fastest acceleration is almost always to shift at redline or very close (the exact RPM changes in every gear, but generally it's way up there close to redline - even if the dyno shows power tapering off). Each gear has more torque multiplication than the next, so you get a torque advantage by holding-off your shift until you have to. That translates to more acceleration. An exception would be if the engine falls flat on its face before redline - which isn't the case with the Ninja. |
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June 9th, 2014, 10:00 AM | #7 |
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June 9th, 2014, 02:41 PM | #8 |
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Before I got my gauges on the bike I was bouncing off the rev limiter quite often.
It loved it...lol
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June 9th, 2014, 02:42 PM | #9 |
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Keep the oil fresh and full and you can beat it as hard as you want and it will just ask for more.
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June 9th, 2014, 03:34 PM | #11 | |
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June 9th, 2014, 03:48 PM | #12 |
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How Hard?
13k, 13k, 13k, 13k, 13k repeat endlessly. Eventually stop to scape the bugs off your teeth and let your buddy on the 600 catch up.
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June 9th, 2014, 05:59 PM | #13 | |
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Your skill and timing are the source of any flawless shifting ...... up or down; .......... nothing else. With more practice, your range of "perfect" rpm's will get wider.
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June 9th, 2014, 06:55 PM | #14 |
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Lol. Try a track day. The bike will never go below 8k and you'll both come back to the pits lusting for more.
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June 9th, 2014, 07:02 PM | #15 |
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these bikes are designed to run high revs.
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June 9th, 2014, 07:04 PM | #16 |
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I'm green with envy.
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June 9th, 2014, 07:07 PM | #17 |
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I thought everyone ride these small bikes near the redline. Most people that want to upgrade are bloodthirsty after staying in the redline.
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June 9th, 2014, 07:36 PM | #18 |
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If my babe ain't screaming, neither of us are happy! Bouncing off the rev limiter makes me happy!
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June 9th, 2014, 09:26 PM | #19 |
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i think anyone who has taken the ninja on the freeway would be over 6k lol.
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June 9th, 2014, 10:18 PM | #20 |
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June 10th, 2014, 06:17 AM | #21 |
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It's heavy, requires more effort to throw around, and sits a lot higher off the ground. But those same things make it more stable and comfortable for long distance riding. You can scrape pegs on it easily, but it takes serious balls compared to the 250. And it's fahkin fast too. 11.7 is my best in the 1/4 so far.
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June 10th, 2014, 07:12 AM | #22 |
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Harder then you can flog a 2 dollar hooker before her pimp walks in.
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June 10th, 2014, 08:21 AM | #23 |
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What's that song by Devo...?
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June 11th, 2014, 02:12 AM | #26 |
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Cleaning up after isn't fun though. |
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June 11th, 2014, 02:27 AM | #27 |
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We call that the Cuddle Puddle
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June 12th, 2014, 03:48 PM | #28 |
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Wonder how much longer it would have gone with proper cooling? That bike obviously overheated
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June 12th, 2014, 04:57 PM | #29 |
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June 13th, 2014, 10:27 PM | #30 |
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Call me a coward, but redlining always made me nervous.. like I was gonna break something in the engine :/
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June 13th, 2014, 10:51 PM | #31 |
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I frequently ride the bike at 13.8krpm in 6th, WFO for 8 minutes at a time pushing the wind.
And by frequently I mean daily. For months now.
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June 13th, 2014, 10:52 PM | #32 |
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Edit, wrong forum. I have a 09.
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June 14th, 2014, 07:59 AM | #33 |
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Maintain it. Flog it. Repeat.
Why else would you own a non-classic bike? |
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