Negotiating Tips and Stories

[Finesse]

I'm going to look at this bike today

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/d...545951895.html
(I'm sorry it's not a Ninjette!!!!!)

and I only want to pay $2k.

Anyone have some tips for me? I suck at negotiating. Especially on the phone. Whenever I ask this, I also get a bunch of funny and interesting stories from people who have gotten crazy deals from just saying the right line...

[M42]

Damnnnn yoooou I've had my eye on that for a while

Anyways, that ad's been up a few months. Just got check it out and bring 2k in cash and show him that you have the money in hand, right then and there. He's lowered it from like 2900 I think, so he clearly wants to sell the damn thing already.

[ninjamunky85]

Best tip that I can give is money talks. Show up with the cash and tell him that's your best offer. If he hasn't gotten any other serious offers then you might get a good deal. Worst they can do is say no.

After reading that add though it seems like he's not willing to drop his price much.

[Finesse]

^I've been wondering why it's been for sale for so long.

It's exactly what I want. Cosmetic damage but lowered with sliders. I wonder if no one else snatched it up because $2500 is WAY TOO FREAKIN HIGH for that and he won't come down, or because it's a piece of crap, or because 99% of people don't want a lowered bike or because the title isn't actually as clean as he says it is.

[Motofool]

Originally Posted by Finesse

^I've been wondering why it's been for sale for so long.

It's exactly what I want. Cosmetic damage but lowered with sliders. I wonder if no one else snatched it up because $2500 is WAY TOO FREAKIN HIGH for that and he won't come down, or because it's a piece of crap, or because 99% of people don't want a lowered bike or because the title isn't actually as clean as he says it is.

You are wondering too much.
Just go, talk to that demanding guy, don't show much interest, use some good time inspecting the bike and simply make him a firm offer.
If he says no, still leave your contact number with him; he may call you back in a week or two.

The rule of thumb is: you never know how desperate for money the other guy is.

Please, read these:
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/What_do...a_used_bike%3F

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Safety_...ing_or_selling

[subxero]

Like others have pointed out, a lot depends on how desperate this guy wants to get rid of it and how desperate he is for cash.

I had a truck for sale on craigslist for a long time, at first I listed it high, not much interest, slowly came down over a few months and after I got to what I considered a good deal I wasn't going to budge any more no matter what. I did not have to sell the truck, I had no problem keeping it and waiting out more money because again I didn't need the money, or to get rid of the truck and I knew I would get what I wanted money wise sooner or later.

My advice, don't offer less until you have seen the bike, when I was selling my truck when someone asked me to sell it for less with out even looking at it I had no desire to deal with them. Give reasons why you think it is worth less to make your argument, if you can't come up with any reasons then it is probably already priced to sell and the seller holds the cards so to speak and you either need to **** or get off the pot

your offer should be. "ill give you $2k for it" NOT "will you take $2k for it?" This makes you come off as a serious buyer who is not screwing around and is willing to make that deal right now and not waste the sellers time. and never, ever ask "whats the lowest you will go?" so dumb and instant way to piss off a seller.

[xSean13]

Got my cbr 600rr for 3500, the guy was asking 4500. I pointed out the couple of cosmetic issues + needing new tires, told the dude 3500 was the most I'd pay. Naturally he said no, but I told him my offer stands; 2 weeks later he texted me and said he'd take it

[tnr4]

Yup, you've gotten good advice here already. If you're ready to take it away (truck, trailer, etc), take $2k and make him the cash offer. Be polite, but straightforward. If he counters, don't think about it or act like you're negotiating. Say, politely, that $2k is what you are willing to pay, and if he agrees, then he can sell it today. If he says no, then don't stick around or ask any questions: offer a handshake, give him something with your name and number on it, and say that he's welcome to call you if he changes his mind.

Good luck!

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by Finesse

I'm going to look at this bike today

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/d...545951895.html
(I'm sorry it's not a Ninjette!!!!!)

and I only want to pay $2k.

Anyone have some tips for me? I suck at negotiating. Especially on the phone. Whenever I ask this, I also get a bunch of funny and interesting stories from people who have gotten crazy deals from just saying the right line...

don't negotiate over the phone. don't talk about price over the phone. the phone is for scheduling a time to come and look at the bike.

go look at the bike without saying anything about the quality. you can ask questions, and it's best to giggle sarcastically at every response as if the owner doesn't know what they're talking about or is obviously lying (they will likely be lying anyway) once you have finished looking over the bike (don't ask the owner the quality of things, just ask facts... ie- when was this done, when was that done... remember giggle as if the owner is lying.) then make your offer. start 500 down. you want to pay 2k so make an offer of "1500 in it's current condition". they will say no and question why its so low and almost get offended. don't explain your offer "i'm not here to tell you whats wrong im here to make an offer on this bike". don't explain what condition you think the bike is in. the less the owner knows about what you know the better. do not justify yourself. you have made an offer, the owner can either accept it, reject it, or make a counter offer. he will say "no i want 4000". just giggle, and say 'well i can come up a little bit for you since you're such a funny guy. my top number is 2000" at this point they will feel pretty ****** about the bike and will either sell it to you or they are the person who will hold out for months until they find a noob who doesn't know what they're doing that will spend 5k on it.

[nickjpass]

Show up with a trailer or gear...

And money

[gitoy]

i usually leave 20% if the service is good but sometimes i leave more...

for example at this biker bar i go to, a beer is $3...i give the bartender $5, gives me a $2 change, i give him a $1 tip...i won't give him a $2 tip just for a bottle of beer...so he gives me the beer and all he does is twist off the cap...hell no...!!!

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by gitoy

i usually leave 20% if the service is good but sometimes i leave more...

for example at this biker bar i go to, a beer is $3...i give the bartender $5, gives me a $2 change, i give him a $1 tip...i won't give him a $2 tip just for a bottle of beer...so he gives me the beer and all he does is twist off the cap...hell no...!!!

what if he gives you a $2 bill instead of two ones? does he get no tip or a $2 tip?

what if he asks for just the tip?

[Sirref]

Originally Posted by alex.s

what if he gives you a $2 bill instead of two ones? does he get no tip or a $2 tip?
what if he asks for just the tip?

[gitoy]

let us see now...he gives me a $2 bill...richard i'll get you next time or you get the $2 bill as tip for the next beer also...how about that?...

richard you get no tip if i get no beer...

[CZroe]

So this is a tipping thread now? I'll play.
NO TIP FOR YOU!

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by CZroe

So this is a tipping thread now? I'll play.
NO TIP FOR YOU!

[gitoy]

a guy got a job circumsizing elephants...

so how is the pay...?

not much but the tips are enormous...

[Ninjinsky]

http://static4.businessinsider.com/i...-tip-of-pi.jpg

[Finesse]

hahahaha this is the best set of responses

He said he'll take $2200 for it, I'm going to show him $2000 cash but $2200 is still a fair deal.

[JohnnyBravo]

Yay... AlexS stole my joke :/

[corksil]

Wheres the picture of the receipt with the total equaling like 17.32 and the tip line has the word "Math" written on it, and the total is $20. I've done that a few times.

I lol'd at the elephant joke... that was a good one.

As for the bike, show him your total cash for the price you're willing to pay.

Act like clint eastwood for the entire interaction. Here's an idea of the performance you are going for..















Your homework for tonight is watching 'gran torino'. And various other clint eastwood movies, preferably the ones he directed and acted in.

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by corksil

Your homework for tonight is watching 'gran torino'. And various other clint eastwood movies, preferably the ones he directed and acted in.

i watched 'the good, the bad, and the ugly' last week.




true story, walter.

[Kscreations08]

Million Dollar Baby was an interesting one. Not his best work but refreshing

[corksil]

This thread is now about elephant circumcision and Clint Eastwood.

[eddiekay]

So...a guy and his girl are walking by the circumcision clinic.
The doctor upstairs does the cut and tosses the skin out the window.
It lands on girls shoulder.
Girls says to boyfriend, Hey...what's this ?
Boyfriend says, bite it, if you like the way it tastes, I'll give you the rest.

[crazymadbastard]

Originally Posted by eddiekay

So...a guy and his girl are walking by the circumcision clinic.
The doctor upstairs does the cut and tosses the skin out the window.
It lands on girls shoulder.
Girls says to boyfriend, Hey...what's this ?
Boyfriend says, bite it, if you like the way it tastes, I'll give you the rest.

does it taste like calamari?

[eddiekay]

depends on the sauce I guess. It's a very old yiddish joke...

[Finesse]

Gran Torino is like the worst movie I've ever seen

[pop0tart]

Originally Posted by Finesse

Gran Torino is like the worst movie I've ever seen

My first thought: "no way a dude wrote that"

[Finesse]

guilty

[psych0hans]

Sooooooooo.... Did op land up buying the bike? I want pics

[gitoy]

looks like katie bought it...it is in her avatar...

i always hang out at svrider in the hope of getting a 650 but never got a deal good enough...i wind up getting a cbr...

katie i want a detailed review so get riding...

[Sirref]

Originally Posted by gitoy

looks like katie bought it...it is in her avatar...

i always hang out at svrider in the hope of getting a 650 but never got a deal good enough...i wind up getting a cbr...

katie i want a detailed review so get riding...

dude, cbr600rr is a sweet ride. I want one of the old orange tribal ones.

[Finesse]

Sooooooooo.... Did op land up buying the bike? I want pics

Yes indeed!

looks like katie bought it...it is in her avatar...

i always hang out at svrider in the hope of getting a 650 but never got a deal good enough...i wind up getting a cbr...

katie i want a detailed review so get riding...

I'm on that, asap. Tomorrow! Most of the ones around here are between $3000-$4300. depending on mileage, year, whatever. There were a couple trashed ones for like $2k but they needed work so F that.... I wanted something ready to ride. go to the ninjette's lair, I put a pic there, haven't taken any others yet

[gitoy]

yep...i take the cbr to the canyons a lot here in socal and it really handles in the twisties...

[gitoy]

katie you go to bed and be fresh for tomorrows ride...or maybe you are too excited to go to sleep!...

[corksil]

hey katie if you ever want to take me up on that romantic dollar movie and mcdonalds dollar menu meal all expenses paid by yours truly, don't hesitate.

there's love in the air, i can feel it.

i've been half-way through million dollar baby for about 4 nights now, can't find the time to finish it.. gran torino last week, heartbreak ridge the week before that.. eastwood kick lately.

[Finesse]

I'm a night owl!

aw jeez, you're too kind corkie.

[Kscreations08]

Originally Posted by corksil

i've been half-way through million dollar baby for about 4 nights now, can't find the time to finish it..

Have you ever seen it before?

[corksil]

Originally Posted by Kscreations08

Have you ever seen it before?

i've been half-way through million dollar baby for about 4 nights now, can't find the time to finish it..

I don't mean to be rude, but I just said that I've seen the movie four times now.

Perhaps I didn't punctuate properly.