Thanks alex.s (got my rear caliper bolts off)

nickjpass · June 30th, 2014, 11:09 AM

using epoxy!!!

Got some cheap epoxy from Harbor Frieght. It was the one that set in the day. PB Blaster alone didn't work, and I have no heat other than say a lighter, so @alex.s gave me this. Worked really well actually. Thanks!!

csmith12 · June 30th, 2014, 11:13 AM

Cool trick! If you need heat in the future, you can get a small propane torch at the hardware store/wal-mart for about 8 bucks.

nickjpass · June 30th, 2014, 11:28 AM

Thanks @csmith12

I'm gonna try this method to glue screws if I round them off

alex.s · June 30th, 2014, 11:30 AM

this is my go-to for stripped bolts in tight or sensitive spots (anything inside the engine that has stripped)

otherwise for normal bolts that aren't in a hard to reach or sensitive/dangerous position, i will just cut the bolt into a flat head and pull it off that way, or alternatively just remove the entire head, remove the part, then unscrew the remaining shaft with pliers

nickjpass · June 30th, 2014, 11:32 AM

Have you had good luck with the quicker setting epoxies? I played it safe and used the 24 hour setting kind.

alex.s · June 30th, 2014, 11:36 AM

i use this 2 part epoxy stuff that cures in about 4 or 5 hours. says 3000psi on it. i think its made by dupont. my brother gets it from his shop at work

nickjpass · June 30th, 2014, 11:40 AM

all the epoxies I've seen except for like jb weld (not really an epoxy?) , are two part... but the one I got I think said 2000 psi. I wish I had a connection like you!

Desmoluci · June 30th, 2014, 11:42 AM

So you epoxied the hex wrench into the buggered up allen head?

nickjpass · June 30th, 2014, 11:54 AM

Then socket is made with a hex wrench in order to get more even torque distribution (make sense?) and so you can use it with a ratchet I believe.

I used epoxy to attach one hex key to a the hex bolt, and used the other hex socket since I only had one on hand. I let it sit, then I got it off use a breaker bar/tube. The epoxy distributed the torque and allowed for a larger working surface area. The bolts are fine, they were just really stuff and I feared rounding them off.

alex.s · June 30th, 2014, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desmoluci

So you epoxied the hex wrench into the buggered up allen head?

yes

corksil · June 30th, 2014, 12:00 PM

Clever!

Desmoluci · June 30th, 2014, 12:07 PM

Good idea.

I just drill those ******* out and be done with em. I'm impatient that way.

alex.s · June 30th, 2014, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desmoluci

Good idea.

I just drill those ******* out and be done with em. I'm impatient that way.

removing the head with the grinder doesn't work so great on stripped head bolts when trying to keep the inside of the engine clean, or places where you dont have room and dont feel like taking a bunch of crap off. it's really the lazy way, tbh. it just takes more time (letting it dry)

nickjpass · June 30th, 2014, 12:43 PM

I'm not using loctite. Probably safety wire later.

CZroe · July 2nd, 2014, 05:52 PM

Replacing those, I assume?

Motofool · July 4th, 2014, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickjpass

...........
Got some cheap epoxy from Harbor Frieght. It was the one that set in the day. PB Blaster alone didn't work, and I have no heat other than say a lighter, so @alex.s gave me this. Worked really well actually. Thanks!!

You could clean the tip of the tools using some heat (hair dryer or heat gun) to soften the epoxy and a sharp tool to scape it off.

Sirref · July 4th, 2014, 10:34 AM

brilliant idea so long as you clean the tools immediately afterwards. I've always had trouble with stripped bolts, particularly the kind you need hex wrenches for. So far I've been drilling through them and then replacing them but this idea would work so much better.

thanks @alex.s for the idea and @nickjpass for posting it

nickjpass · July 4th, 2014, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirref

brilliant idea so long as you clean the tools immediately afterwards. I've always had trouble with stripped bolts, particularly the kind you need hex wrenches for. So far I've been drilling through them and then replacing them but this idea would work so much better.

thanks @alex.s for the idea and @nickjpass for posting it

you can peel it off. fairly easily as well.

It did however remove the paint from my hex wrench...but that's why I used my old crappy one and not my new ones.

Singh2jz · July 6th, 2014, 12:36 AM

Adding this to my bag of chips and tricks! Thanks!

mr2peak · July 6th, 2014, 09:15 PM

I'm amazed that I hadn't heard of this trick before. Brilliantly simple!

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alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	this is my go-to for stripped bolts in tight or sensitive spots (anything inside the engine that has stripped) otherwise for normal bolts that aren't in a hard to reach or sensitive/dangerous position, i will just cut the bolt into a flat head and pull it off that way, or alternatively just remove the entire head, remove the part, then unscrew the remaining shaft with pliers __________________________________________________
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nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Have you had good luck with the quicker setting epoxies? I played it safe and used the 24 hour setting kind. __________________________________________________

June 30th, 2014, 11:36 AM	#6
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	i use this 2 part epoxy stuff that cures in about 4 or 5 hours. says 3000psi on it. i think its made by dupont. my brother gets it from his shop at work __________________________________________________
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June 30th, 2014, 11:40 AM	#7
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	all the epoxies I've seen except for like jb weld (not really an epoxy?) , are two part... but the one I got I think said 2000 psi. I wish I had a connection like you! __________________________________________________

June 30th, 2014, 11:42 AM	#8
Desmoluci Threadkiller Name: Mick Location: Monongahela, Pa. Join Date: Apr 2014 Motorcycle(s): Yellow '04 stocker, '89 FJ1200, '87 Ducati Paso, '71 Yamaha XS1b, '99 KLR650, '81 FXE 80, '97 KTM 200EXC , etc Posts: 430	So you epoxied the hex wrench into the buggered up allen head?

June 30th, 2014, 11:54 AM	#9
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Then socket is made with a hex wrench in order to get more even torque distribution (make sense?) and so you can use it with a ratchet I believe. I used epoxy to attach one hex key to a the hex bolt, and used the other hex socket since I only had one on hand. I let it sit, then I got it off use a breaker bar/tube. The epoxy distributed the torque and allowed for a larger working surface area. The bolts are fine, they were just really stuff and I feared rounding them off. __________________________________________________

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June 30th, 2014, 12:07 PM	#12
Desmoluci Threadkiller Name: Mick Location: Monongahela, Pa. Join Date: Apr 2014 Motorcycle(s): Yellow '04 stocker, '89 FJ1200, '87 Ducati Paso, '71 Yamaha XS1b, '99 KLR650, '81 FXE 80, '97 KTM 200EXC , etc Posts: 430	Good idea. I just drill those ******* out and be done with em. I'm impatient that way.

June 30th, 2014, 12:43 PM	#14
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	I'm not using loctite. Probably safety wire later. __________________________________________________

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July 4th, 2014, 10:34 AM	#17
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	brilliant idea so long as you clean the tools immediately afterwards. I've always had trouble with stripped bolts, particularly the kind you need hex wrenches for. So far I've been drilling through them and then replacing them but this idea would work so much better. thanks @alex.s for the idea and @nickjpass for posting it

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Singh2jz ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Inderveer Location: San Jose Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '07 ex250-F/J Posts: A lot.	Adding this to my bag of chips and tricks! Thanks! __________________________________________________ The Bike \| The Truck
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mr2peak ninjette.org member Name: james Location: SF Join Date: Mar 2014 Motorcycle(s): Hyper 821 Posts: 161	I'm amazed that I hadn't heard of this trick before. Brilliantly simple!

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