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Old June 25th, 2013, 09:30 PM   #1
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I got charged with reckless driving

So I was driving down the interstate keeping up with traffic not being a rabbit or any think I notice a cop flying up on me so I start to move right well he pulls me over and tells me I was doing 90 in a 65. He hits me with the reckless driving ticket and tells me I am lucky he is not towing the car. Now he did not give me a speeding ticket and when I told him I want to see the radar he told me he was not able to show me it. what are the odds of them dropping it at the first court date? Do you even think its worth getting a lawyer yet?
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Old June 25th, 2013, 10:39 PM   #2
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Wreckless driving ticket is a ticket, just a lot bigger than a normal one.. In some places its a misdemeanor and can be a felony depending on the speed, and can carry penalties similar to a dui... Lawyer up!
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Old June 25th, 2013, 10:57 PM   #3
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Wreckless driving ticket is a ticket, just a lot bigger than a normal one.. In some places its a misdemeanor and can be a felony depending on the speed, and can carry penalties similar to a dui... Lawyer up!
its listed as a misdemeanor 2
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Old June 26th, 2013, 02:42 AM   #4
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Old June 26th, 2013, 04:09 AM   #5
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So I was driving down the interstate keeping up with traffic not being a rabbit or any think I notice a cop flying up on me so I start to move right well he pulls me over and tells me I was doing 90 in a 65. He hits me with the reckless driving ticket and tells me I am lucky he is not towing the car. Now he did not give me a speeding ticket and when I told him I want to see the radar he told me he was not able to show me it. what are the odds of them dropping it at the first court date? Do you even think its worth getting a lawyer yet?
I had some asshole highway trooper pull a similar thing with me. Tried to claim I was doing 86. I know he only pulled me over because I have out of state plates. As soon as he saw my in state driver's license he decided to "give me a break".

Just hire a traffic attorney to fight it for you.
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Old June 26th, 2013, 05:58 AM   #6
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Lawyer up if it's a misdemeanor.

And it will not get dropped at the first court appearance, you won't even get a chance to do anything other than say not guilty and get a second date.
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Old June 26th, 2013, 07:54 AM   #7
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Old June 26th, 2013, 08:56 AM   #8
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Lawyer up my man. In general, no radar, no proof, no ticket/fine/points bla bla bla Even if they have radar, when was it last calibrated? And sometimes the cop doesn't even show for the court date and poof, it all goes away.
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Old June 26th, 2013, 11:05 AM   #9
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Lawyer up my man. In general, no radar, no proof, no ticket/fine/points bla bla bla Even if they have radar, when was it last calibrated? And sometimes the cop doesn't even show for the court date and poof, it all goes away.
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Old June 26th, 2013, 11:40 AM   #10
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Lawyer up my man. In general, no radar, no proof, no ticket/fine/points bla bla bla Even if they have radar, when was it last calibrated? And sometimes the cop doesn't even show for the court date and poof, it all goes away.
Yeah, all of mine have been dropped for improper equipment, what ever that is One of them was a 90 in a 55 ( I was on my way to a race track. Imagine that ) . Didn't say anything about wreckless driving though, but it wasn't payable. I was supposed to go to court for it. Each of them have cost me around $400 to a lawyer though
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Yeah, all of mine have been dropped for improper equipment, what ever that is One of them was a 90 in a 55 ( I was on my way to a race track. Imagine that ) . Didn't say anything about wreckless driving though, but it wasn't payable. I was supposed to go to court for it. Each of them have cost me around $400 to a lawyer though
$400.00 is better then having a criminal record.
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Old June 26th, 2013, 11:12 PM   #12
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$400.00 is better then having a criminal record.
Which is exactly why I went with that option . Better than having insurance to up too! After that 90mph one, I invested in a high dollar radar detectors. It's been saving my ass since!
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Old June 26th, 2013, 11:19 PM   #13
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Which is exactly why I went with that option . Better than having insurance to up too! After that 90mph one, I invested in a high dollar radar detectors. It's been saving my ass since!
What gets me out of all the stupid crazy crap I have done on the road I was just driving along with the rest of traffic heck I noticed the cop flying up from far away and had started to move over all the way right to let him pass he had not even turn on his lights yet.
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Old June 27th, 2013, 10:17 AM   #14
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Wreckless driving ticket is a ticket, just a lot bigger than a normal one.. In some places its a misdemeanor and can be a felony depending on the speed, and can carry penalties similar to a dui... Lawyer up!
I try to drive in a WRECKLESS manner all the time. I haven't had a WRECK in years! Sri, couldn't resist!! snicker.
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Old June 27th, 2013, 02:33 PM   #15
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So I was driving down the interstate keeping up with traffic not being a rabbit or any think I notice a cop flying up on me so I start to move right well he pulls me over and tells me I was doing 90 in a 65. He hits me with the reckless driving ticket and tells me I am lucky he is not towing the car. Now he did not give me a speeding ticket and when I told him I want to see the radar he told me he was not able to show me it. what are the odds of them dropping it at the first court date? Do you even think its worth getting a lawyer yet?
I've beaten a ticket in traffic court without a lawyer. I just kept calling to reschedule last minute the day before each scheduled date and the guy never showed up.
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Old July 10th, 2013, 07:34 AM   #16
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Huh... when I lawyer up it costs me $25 or $50 depending on the ticket. Local po-po are $25, sheriffs are $50 and warrants for driving violations are $50 too. I haven't had to go to court at all.

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Old July 10th, 2013, 01:15 PM   #17
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As an ex cop I say "FIGHT IT TILL THE VERY END"

do not give up your rights and make sure u know all the laws and rules that apply before you go to court.

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Old July 10th, 2013, 11:01 PM   #18
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Doesn't reckless driving require 3 separate safety violations? Or something like that?

Going 90 is going 90. Unless you changed lanes without indicators or did other stupid ****.
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Old July 19th, 2013, 05:36 PM   #20
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Doesn't reckless driving require 3 separate safety violations? Or something like that?

Going 90 is going 90. Unless you changed lanes without indicators or did other stupid ****.
No just being reckless... or being really pissed someone rear ended your 07 in March of 08 and cussing them out. Which turns into road rage and reckless driving...
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Old July 21st, 2013, 03:37 PM   #21
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In reference to asking him to show you the radar, unless it's changed since I've taken my classes, they cant. It resets every time. Reason being is if they clock someone at 100 mph and forget to reset it, what's to stop them from saying you were doing 100 too when you were only doing 60? I know it's still he said she said when they have to proof, but I'd rather that then being miscalculated at 100 for a cop forgetting to reset the mph and him having "hard" evidence.
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In reference to asking him to show you the radar, unless it's changed since I've taken my classes, they cant. It resets every time. Reason being is if they clock someone at 100 mph and forget to reset it, what's to stop them from saying you were doing 100 too when you were only doing 60? I know it's still he said she said when they have to proof, but I'd rather that then being miscalculated at 100 for a cop forgetting to reset the mph and him having "hard" evidence.
not true at all, they always show me the read out on the lidar gun.


the wreckless driving ticket has to state a reason behind it, if the officer observed you being wreckless, he must describe the wreckless act. if the wreckless act was speeding, the officer needs a valid measurement. pace, or instrumented. you said he didn't have any instrumented measurement which means it was a pace which can be estimated. usually estimated paces dont hold up in court. set a court date, don't get a speedy trial, request all the information including dash cam from the officer. maybe consider trial by declaration. get a lawyer if you dont know what you are doing
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Take it to court.

You don't need a lawyer for a traffic citation. They're over rated. If he wrote you for speeding, or another moving violation then he could write you for the reckless. It's not a stand alone charge. Go to court and plead not guilty or No Lo (if it's allowed in your state). The officer has to be able to note the action that caused you to be reckless.
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Old August 10th, 2013, 03:03 PM   #24
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There's an old, mostly true saying that "a person who decides to represent himself in court has a fool for a client". Get a lawyer, and say nothing without his presence and advice.

I sat down with a sheet of paper many years ago and calculated the cost of a speeding ticket in VA if you just went to the courthouse and paid it off. Considering the fine, court costs, increase in insurance premiums for 40 months, traffic school to wipe out the points, etc., etc. I found it was much cheaper to hire even a fairly expensive lawyer - by about half or more. Yes, the system's rigged, but you can still make the most of a bad situation.
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Speaking of a system that's stacked against you.....

Here in South Carolina, if an agency writes a ticket with points, they must split the revenue with the state 50-50. So almost every municipality has created a violation called "careless operation" which has.... no points. The fine for speeding in Turbeville SC is like $430 with no points. If you go to court and ask for a jury trial, the officer will kindly tack on an additional charge of the speeding ticket he didn't write you the day you got pulled over. By law a cop has 6 months to charge you with anything he's seen you do). When you do go to jury trial, you have your 10-20mph speeding ticket AND the careless operation.

What really urks me about this system is that the points system is designed to get dangerous drivers off the road so the rest of us are safer.... but this system lets you keep driving as long as you can afford to pay the tickets and the state never knows to attach points to your license and your insurance never goes up.

If you are feeling frisky, look up http://www.speedtrap.org/city/10570/Turbeville
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Speaking of a system that's stacked against you.....

Here in South Carolina, if an agency writes a ticket with points, they must split the revenue with the state 50-50. So almost every municipality has created a violation called "careless operation" which has.... no points. The fine for speeding in Turbeville SC is like $430 with no points. If you go to court and ask for a jury trial, the officer will kindly tack on an additional charge of the speeding ticket he didn't write you the day you got pulled over. By law a cop has 6 months to charge you with anything he's seen you do). When you do go to jury trial, you have your 10-20mph speeding ticket AND the careless operation.

What really urks me about this system is that the points system is designed to get dangerous drivers off the road so the rest of us are safer.... but this system lets you keep driving as long as you can afford to pay the tickets and the state never knows to attach points to your license and your insurance never goes up.

If you are feeling frisky, look up http://www.speedtrap.org/city/10570/Turbeville
This is crazy. A little update I went to the first court date and got a date set to meet with the DA get this they want to take 8 points off WTF. depending on what they have to say will decide on a trial or not.
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This is crazy. A little update I went to the first court date and got a date set to meet with the DA get this they want to take 8 points off WTF. depending on what they have to say will decide on a trial or not.
You normally are asked to enter a plea your first appearance which will determine how the court will proceed. What happened in your case, why did you get another date with the DA--did you ask for a jury trial?
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You normally are asked to enter a plea your first appearance which will determine how the court will proceed. What happened in your case, why did you get another date with the DA--did you ask for a jury trial?
its how this court process traffic tickets. Every one who shows up they enter a plea of not guilty automatically and sets a date for you to meet with the DA if you don't like what they say then a new date is set for the trial.
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I hope you get out of this without a big fine or points of your license. Two or more dates to appear in court is a waste of time...
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