The everchanging society

cuong-nutz · September 25th, 2015, 03:02 PM

So last year I had my motorcycle helmet and gloves stolen off my bike.
Long story short, we found the thieves. I got my helmet and gloves back. I filed charges.
Monday, the case finally made it to trial.
The jury's decision: Defendant is NOT GUILTY.

What pissed me off more was the guy told me that he and his brother did it before the trial started. When he went on the stand, he denied it all.
All the tape recordings clearly pointed out when where and how they stole it.
All photos and evidence clearly proved that the guy was guilty.

The attorneys and judge and everyone there were just at a loss of words.

NevadaWolf · September 25th, 2015, 03:07 PM

Wha...?

LittleRedNinjette · September 25th, 2015, 04:39 PM

I don't even know what to say to that...

tfkrocks · September 25th, 2015, 06:26 PM

****ing assholes

snot · September 25th, 2015, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tfkrocks

****ing assholes

+1

cuong-nutz · September 25th, 2015, 06:31 PM

So much for a jury of our "peers".

cbinker · September 26th, 2015, 09:43 PM

jury of retards. sounds like something that should happen in California.

MrAtom · September 26th, 2015, 10:06 PM

Some 12 angry men crap must've happened. I'm sorry dude.

Snake · September 27th, 2015, 01:52 AM

This is the kind of thing that makes you lose faith in the justice system and want to take matters into your own hands. Vigilante justice.

antiant · September 27th, 2015, 06:24 AM

The court system and due process has been broken for awhile. Welcome to Amurikkka.

cadd · September 27th, 2015, 06:25 AM

Holy crap! I wonder what went on during the deliberation.

csmith12 · September 27th, 2015, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cadd

Holy crap! I wonder what went on during the deliberation.

ForceofWill · September 27th, 2015, 06:34 PM

Sucks man but not a lot of details there. What charges were they trying to get them on? Did you have pictures of them stealing the stuff. Depending on the burden of proof for whatever charges and evidence being circumstantial......

The burden of proof for criminal cases is as high as it is for a reason.

cuong-nutz · September 28th, 2015, 07:08 AM

My investigator recorded his and his accomplices' confessions when he questioned them. I'm leaning more that the jurors felt bad for the guy. From what I was told, he was 21 and trying to get his GED. I guess they want him a productive member to society and not have a misdemeanor affect possible employment. His accomplices, brother and brothers gf, have a warrant out for thier arrest.

I was hoping for justice to be served accordingly.

SLOWn60 · September 28th, 2015, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cuong-nutz

My investigator recorded his and his accomplices' confessions when he questioned them. I'm leaning more that the jurors felt bad for the guy. From what I was told, he was 21 and trying to get his GED. I guess they want him a productive member to society and not have a misdemeanor affect possible employment. His accomplices, brother and brothers gf, have a warrant out for thier arrest.

I was hoping for justice to be served accordingly.

I understand how you feel Cuong; I've always felt the same rage when I've had things stolen from me (a couple of break-ins and a mc theft). However; it is a fact that most young offenders after their first time through the courts, never repeat.
Though I've never been arrested and none of my shenanigans were as serious as property theft (other than stealing my parents car & liquour!) the fact is if I had been charged with all my offenses and served maximum sentences concurently; I may still be sitting in jail!

My point is: Though we may want to cut off their balls, keel-haul the bastards and fill what's left with lead; it would be a shame and a wrong to destroy the potential of a persons future contributions because of a stupid, juvinile act that many of us may have made at the same age. At 21; most males are still idiots!

csmith12 · September 28th, 2015, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SLOWn60

At 21; most males are still idiots!

windingroads · October 5th, 2015, 10:17 PM

Thieves suck, but they really granted you a jury trial for a helmet and gloves?

cuong-nutz · October 5th, 2015, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by windingroads

Thieves suck, but they really granted you a jury trial for a helmet and gloves?

I was surprised it made it that far given the evidence to prove guilt.

Ninjinsky · October 6th, 2015, 08:55 AM

It can go the other way. The guy recently who stole my cameras, and tools has just been jailed for six months and has to pay me compo since he can't get them back.

Then again that is the UK.
America is currently working on 'reverse morality' to demoralize the people for disarming of the "well regulated militia" and the shredding of the second amendment.

cuong-nutz · October 6th, 2015, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninjinsky

It can go the other way. The guy recently who stole my cameras, and tools has just been jailed for six months and has to pay me compo since he can't get them back.

Then again that is the UK.
America is currently working on 'reverse morality' to demoralize the people for disarming of the "well regulated militia" and the shredding of the second amendment.

There's another word for that. It's called "kitty"fication of murica.

VaFish · October 6th, 2015, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SLOWn60

At 21; most males are still idiots!

At 21 I had been a home owner for over a year and had a pretty cool badge.

SLOWn60 · October 6th, 2015, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VaFish

At 21 I had been a home owner for over a year and had a pretty cool badge.

There are lots of successful idiots!

However; I said "most". I suspect you may not be a part of that group!

September 25th, 2015, 03:02 PM	#1
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	The everchanging society So last year I had my motorcycle helmet and gloves stolen off my bike. Long story short, we found the thieves. I got my helmet and gloves back. I filed charges. Monday, the case finally made it to trial. The jury's decision: Defendant is NOT GUILTY. What pissed me off more was the guy told me that he and his brother did it before the trial started. When he went on the stand, he denied it all. All the tape recordings clearly pointed out when where and how they stole it. All photos and evidence clearly proved that the guy was guilty. The attorneys and judge and everyone there were just at a loss of words. __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

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September 25th, 2015, 06:31 PM	#6
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	So much for a jury of our "peers". __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

September 26th, 2015, 09:43 PM	#7
cbinker Track Clown Name: Chris Location: Kingman, AZ Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): '08 250R, 21 MV F3 800, Kawasaki 400 build Posts: A lot. MOTM - Sep '15	jury of retards. sounds like something that should happen in California. __________________________________________________ TEAM ALFALFA www.apexassassins.com

September 26th, 2015, 10:06 PM	#8
MrAtom . Name: . Location: . Join Date: Aug 2014 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot. MOTM - July '15	Some 12 angry men crap must've happened. I'm sorry dude.
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September 27th, 2015, 01:52 AM	#9
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	This is the kind of thing that makes you lose faith in the justice system and want to take matters into your own hands. Vigilante justice.

September 27th, 2015, 06:24 AM	#10
antiant antiant Name: antiant Location: Cali Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): None Posts: A lot. MOTM - Oct '14	The court system and due process has been broken for awhile. Welcome to Amurikkka.

September 27th, 2015, 06:25 AM	#11
cadd cadd cadd cadd Name: Cadd Location: 41°21'13.1"N, 74°41'37.4"W Join Date: Jan 2014 Motorcycle(s): 300 Posts: A lot. MOTM - May '15	Holy crap! I wonder what went on during the deliberation. __________________________________________________ Riding it like I financed it.

September 27th, 2015, 06:34 PM	#13
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	Sucks man but not a lot of details there. What charges were they trying to get them on? Did you have pictures of them stealing the stuff. Depending on the burden of proof for whatever charges and evidence being circumstantial...... The burden of proof for criminal cases is as high as it is for a reason.

September 28th, 2015, 07:08 AM	#14
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	My investigator recorded his and his accomplices' confessions when he questioned them. I'm leaning more that the jurors felt bad for the guy. From what I was told, he was 21 and trying to get his GED. I guess they want him a productive member to society and not have a misdemeanor affect possible employment. His accomplices, brother and brothers gf, have a warrant out for thier arrest. I was hoping for justice to be served accordingly. __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

October 5th, 2015, 10:17 PM	#17
windingroads ninjette.org member Name: Robb Location: Milwaukee WI Join Date: Jan 2015 Motorcycle(s): 1989 GL1500 Goldwing Posts: 29	Thieves suck, but they really granted you a jury trial for a helmet and gloves?

October 6th, 2015, 08:55 AM	#19
Ninjinsky ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Paul Location: UK Join Date: Apr 2014 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250, Yamaha RS200 (classic) Posts: A lot.	It can go the other way. The guy recently who stole my cameras, and tools has just been jailed for six months and has to pay me compo since he can't get them back. Then again that is the UK. America is currently working on 'reverse morality' to demoralize the people for disarming of the "well regulated militia" and the shredding of the second amendment.

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