oh thank god, girls can finally buy tools! - Page 2

LittleRedNinjette · September 9th, 2014, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

I used to use all my ex-girlfriends pink underwear as a rag to clean up messes but my dog ate the crotch out of them, no wait, they came that way.

M42 · September 9th, 2014, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by snot

I have worked in boy jobs since I was a kid.

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Originally Posted by LittleRedNinjette

I was always bothered by the stigma of the "pink" aisles at the toy stores, Walmart and such.

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Originally Posted by Finesse

PREACH

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Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

*sigh* Sore subject for me since I never fit into being a "girl" but knew I could never be accepted as a "boy", so having to live with expectations that didn't fit who I am sucked.

it feels nice to know I'm not alone, at least.

Also, @NevadaWolf, that part of your post I quoted is literally my entire life summed up in one sentence.

snot · September 9th, 2014, 09:04 AM

@M42 and @NevadaWolf you both fit in here just fine!!!

NevadaWolf · September 9th, 2014, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by csmith12

I have pink tape over my wheel weights on my r6. Seems it holds just as well as other colors.

See, now DuctTape has it right. Make the same product but in a crap ton of colors and designs. I love that display at the hardware store. You can just stand there and go "Hurm, what can I make out of all of that?!"

I had the glow in the dark tape on my rims until I decided to just go with Krylon.

alex.s · September 9th, 2014, 09:25 AM

crap... that's a good idea... glow in the dark tools...

NevadaWolf · September 9th, 2014, 09:31 AM

Oh! Now I wanna go to alex's garage with a portable black light. Some kids get stars and planets to lull them to sleep at night, alex has tools!

alex.s · September 9th, 2014, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

Oh! Now I wanna go to alex's garage with a portable black light.

you'ld be blinded for sure near any part of my house with a black light.

M42 · September 9th, 2014, 09:45 AM

Haaaaaaaaaaaa

LittleRedNinjette · September 9th, 2014, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by alex.s

you'ld be blinded for sure near any part of my house with a black light.

EternalNewb · September 9th, 2014, 09:56 AM

@alex.s delivers again.

Flying · September 9th, 2014, 10:02 AM

Link to original page on YouTube.

NevadaWolf · September 9th, 2014, 11:01 AM

I need bleach.... Lots and lots of bleach.....

Worldtraveller · September 9th, 2014, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

I need bleach.... Lots and lots of brain bleach.....

Fixt!

NevadaWolf · September 9th, 2014, 11:29 AM

Who said anything about brain bleach? I was going to send in a HazMat crew to clean it up.

antiant · September 9th, 2014, 01:02 PM

Saw that aisle at Sears, when I was picking up some tools and yeah they are cheap looking. These types of stereotypes and or social constructs are advertised everywhere and subliminally, even things like motorcycle gear. From the lack of availability in choices that are geared toward women riders, to the pink color on gear and how it's advertised toward women, flower scroll designs, etc. It gets annoying, especially when you want good quality gear and realize you don't have much of a choice. It would be nice if there was more of a balance in these matters, but c'est la vie.

MrAtom · September 9th, 2014, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by antiant

These types of stereotypes and or social constructs are advertised everywhere and subliminally, even things like motorcycle gear

CycleGear isn't shy about it. Nothing subliminal here. It's pretty obvious what they think of women from the fact that when you click on the Women's section on their site, you're greeted with a button that says "Well-Protected Passenger"

antiant · September 9th, 2014, 01:29 PM

Yep, but I was speaking of other things besides gear too, general advertisement and marketing industries as well. That's a whole other topic though.

alex.s · September 9th, 2014, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MrAtom

CycleGear isn't shy about it. Nothing subliminal here. It's pretty obvious what they think of women from the fact that when you click on the Women's section on their site, you're greeted with a button that says "Well-Protected Passenger"

that's probably a valid business strategy unfortunately. they know their sales statistics. going into any cyclegear, its rare to see female riders. probably because their stock for lady-sized gear is crap though. so i guess its probably skewed.

M42 · September 9th, 2014, 02:20 PM

Yeah, I've felt the sting of lack of gear too many times. For some reason, it's even more heavily skewed when you look at race/street boots and race/street gloves. Like this for boots on revzilla:

And only one of those 4 has any lateral protection worth a damn. That's it. Wanna do track days? Wanna race? Serious about your leg protection? Hope you like this boot. Just this one, right here. No others. Also all colorways come with ~flowery swirlies~.

Some women can use men's boots and gloves, but you are completely, utterly SOL if you're small like me. I really wanted a pair of Racer R-Safes

snot · September 9th, 2014, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by M42

Yeah, I've felt the sting of lack of gear too many times. For some reason, it's even more heavily skewed when you look at race/street boots and race/street gloves. Like this for boots on revzilla:

And only one of those 4 has any lateral protection worth a damn. That's it. Wanna do track days? Wanna race? Serious about your leg protection? Hope you like this boot. Just this one, right here. No others. Also all colorways come with ~flowery swirlies~.

Some women can use men's boots and gloves, but you are completely, utterly SOL if you're small like me. I really wanted a pair of Racer R-Safes

I bet they were pink too

M42 · September 9th, 2014, 02:37 PM

It does come in a "dominatrix-esque shiny black leather with pink swirls" color, yes.

NevadaWolf · September 9th, 2014, 03:10 PM

Eh, one rabbit strike while wearing those takes care of ANY shiny bits that may have escaped the regular dust and dirt of road use. Least I have zero desire to touch the outside of my boot ever again.

And they now live in the garage.

But I have the Cobra, standard ol black.

Baron · September 9th, 2014, 04:41 PM

That is all.

fry1024 · September 10th, 2014, 11:08 AM

If being pink was the one thing holding back any girl from using tools then they probably shouldn't be using a tool to begin with. With that said I constantly encourage my GF to use tools. I got her to use a Dremel a few months back for the first time and she had a blast sending sparks across the room. She was having so much fun that I got the camera out and took a few pics.

LittleRedNinjette · September 10th, 2014, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by M42

It does come in a "dominatrix-esque shiny black leather with pink swirls" color, yes.

Is it bad that i like these then?

Rogue · September 10th, 2014, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Finesse

Maybe if I start replacing my existing tools with these, they'll stop 'accidentally' getting commingled in with my husbands.

Rogue · September 10th, 2014, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by M42

It does come in a "dominatrix-esque shiny black leather with pink swirls" color, yes.

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Originally Posted by LittleRedNinjette

Is it bad that i like these then?

The Sidi Vertigo Lei's! I have these boots in black with the white scroll work. They're fantastic! Not very comfortable to walk around in for more than a short distance, but they're wonderful on the bike.

csmith12 · September 10th, 2014, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LittleRedNinjette

Is it bad that i like these then?

Not at all, hell... I like em.

M42 · September 10th, 2014, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by LittleRedNinjette

Is it bad that i like these then?

Not at all, it's just that most of women's gear doesn't have the choice to not have swirls/pink if you don't want them. Astars anouke for example.

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Originally Posted by Rogue

The Sidi Vertigo Lei's! I have these boots in black with the white scroll work. They're fantastic! Not very comfortable to walk around in for more than a short distance, but they're wonderful on the bike.

Yeah, they're pretty great! They seem to have a ton of space in the heel area for some reason, but a heel lift fixes that.

Zombiphone · September 10th, 2014, 12:00 PM

The Vertigos are nice and all, but another significant point, aside from the stupid swirls they put on the women's version, is that the protection level is nothing compared to the Sidi Vortices, which they don't make in women's sizes.

Fortunately for myself, I fit small mens sizes when it comes to getting a high end pair of race gloves or boots, but having to get a new suit lately and wanting even some of the barebones features they put in men's suits (Back hump? Full perforation? For a girl? L.O.L.) was not an easy task. I ended up importing a spidi suit from italy just because the custom suit makers I talked to struggled a lot with tailoring for women, and Spidi offered more features than Dainese.

Put me also in the fed up with gender roles in marketing camp <_<

M42 · September 10th, 2014, 12:22 PM

I keep hoping they'll put out a women's version of the vortice every season, but no luck so far. "Hey, I know you wanna ride and all, but no matter what you'll be less protected than a guy! Lol, better hope you don't crash!"

I'm a 4.5 in men's sizing

I think the worst part is that you can't do anything about it. It's not like politics where you can write to a congressman/woman, or try to drum up social support. You just have to sit there and hope some higher-up in the company gets the bright idea to expand their paltry offerings for women.

Worldtraveller · September 10th, 2014, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by M42

I keep hoping they'll put out a women's version of the vortice every season, but no luck so far. "Hey, I know you wanna ride and all, but no matter what you'll be less protected than a guy! Lol, better hope you don't crash!"

I'm a 4.5 in men's sizing

4.5!?! You need a ladder to reach the counter tops?

I kid, I kid. (and my wife is probably going to beat me when she reads this, so you're covered!)

tfkrocks · September 10th, 2014, 12:30 PM

That's why I keep buying A* boots since they go so small. I would love a pair of Sidis but the smallest size of the best models are all a size too big.

M42 · September 10th, 2014, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Worldtraveller

4.5!?! You need a ladder to reach the counter tops?

I kid, I kid. (and my wife is probably going to beat me when she reads this, so you're covered!)

I'm actually the exact average height for a woman in the US - 5'4", so that's not too bad. It's just that my hands and feet are teeeeeny. I got an XS mens dainese glove and it's still too roomy for me.

LittleRedNinjette · September 10th, 2014, 12:49 PM

I fit in a mens 5.5 to 6. I dont think ive ever seen them go that small in motorcycle boots. *off to check*

antiant · September 10th, 2014, 01:50 PM

That's another point, women's versions of certain gear give less protection over men's. Falling down, hurts, regardless of gender/sex, etc. Take for example the Dainese Avant race boots, hardly any protection compared to something like Dainese Torque Pro Out, which I wear. I really want to try some Daytona's. Luckily, I don't have issues in the sizing department, it's just the choices.

snot · September 10th, 2014, 05:21 PM

I bought a very small Japan size mans 2 PCs. Taichi leathers are small, so I have great protection. Gloves are astar Stella, not as good as men's. I am a 38 men's shoe soooo no luck there either.

alex.s · September 10th, 2014, 05:35 PM

just fyi, "jap" has been considered extremely racist since about 1936.

alex.s · September 10th, 2014, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zombiphone

I ended up importing a spidi suit from italy just because the custom suit makers I talked to struggled a lot with tailoring for women, and Spidi offered more features than Dainese.

and here i thought you just wanted to be a fancy-pants. disappoint, tiff.

CC Cowboy · September 10th, 2014, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by alex.s

just fyi, "jap" has been considered extremely racist since about 1936.

"Jewish American Princess" might be pains in the ass but I don't think calling them that is racist!

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September 9th, 2014, 11:29 AM	#54
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September 9th, 2014, 01:02 PM	#55
antiant antiant Name: antiant Location: Cali Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): None Posts: A lot. MOTM - Oct '14	Saw that aisle at Sears, when I was picking up some tools and yeah they are cheap looking. These types of stereotypes and or social constructs are advertised everywhere and subliminally, even things like motorcycle gear. From the lack of availability in choices that are geared toward women riders, to the pink color on gear and how it's advertised toward women, flower scroll designs, etc. It gets annoying, especially when you want good quality gear and realize you don't have much of a choice. It would be nice if there was more of a balance in these matters, but c'est la vie.

September 9th, 2014, 01:29 PM	#57
antiant antiant Name: antiant Location: Cali Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): None Posts: A lot. MOTM - Oct '14	Yep, but I was speaking of other things besides gear too, general advertisement and marketing industries as well. That's a whole other topic though.

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September 10th, 2014, 12:00 PM	#70
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September 10th, 2014, 12:22 PM	#71
M42 Wrench wench Name: The Stigette Location: DC/MD/VA Join Date: Jun 2014 Motorcycle(s): TWO HUNDRED FORTY EIGHT CUBIC CENTIMETERS (R.I.P.), SIX HUNDRED FORTY FIVE CUBIC CENTIMETERS Posts: 415	I keep hoping they'll put out a women's version of the vortice every season, but no luck so far. "Hey, I know you wanna ride and all, but no matter what you'll be less protected than a guy! Lol, better hope you don't crash!" I'm a 4.5 in men's sizing I think the worst part is that you can't do anything about it. It's not like politics where you can write to a congressman/woman, or try to drum up social support. You just have to sit there and hope some higher-up in the company gets the bright idea to expand their paltry offerings for women.

September 10th, 2014, 12:30 PM	#73
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September 10th, 2014, 01:50 PM	#76
antiant antiant Name: antiant Location: Cali Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): None Posts: A lot. MOTM - Oct '14	That's another point, women's versions of certain gear give less protection over men's. Falling down, hurts, regardless of gender/sex, etc. Take for example the Dainese Avant race boots, hardly any protection compared to something like Dainese Torque Pro Out, which I wear. I really want to try some Daytona's. Luckily, I don't have issues in the sizing department, it's just the choices.

September 10th, 2014, 05:21 PM	#77
snot sammich maker Name: snot Location: West Ohio - in the kitchen Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 white 300, 09 KLX 250 SF, 09 thunder blue 250(traded) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '15	I bought a very small Japan size mans 2 PCs. Taichi leathers are small, so I have great protection. Gloves are astar Stella, not as good as men's. I am a 38 men's shoe soooo no luck there either. Last futzed with by snot; September 10th, 2014 at 06:47 PM. Reason: jap is racist

September 10th, 2014, 05:35 PM	#78
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	just fyi, "jap" has been considered extremely racist since about 1936. __________________________________________________

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