July 2nd, 2012, 12:26 PM | #1 |
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Triple digit heat, humidity, and ATGATT
How do you guys do it? Maybe because I’m from WI I’m not as well tailored to the heat, but man, fully geared up for my ride home even in the low-mid 90’s we are getting around here I need a shower by the time I get home from my 30 minute ride home. I have a vented but not mesh jacket, I’m thinking that is a must have to survive the hot summer days. What do you guys/gals do to stay cool?
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July 2nd, 2012, 12:39 PM | #2 |
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July 2nd, 2012, 12:40 PM | #3 |
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ice vests, and drink lots and lots of water
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July 2nd, 2012, 12:44 PM | #4 |
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i ride with all my gear except for riding pants (always jeans though, no shorts) no matter the weather. i have a mesh jacket and i usually just wear a t-shirt under it and i barely sweat. i also usually wear high socks that almost go up to my near to make my boots more comfy. but my boots are also vented and dont get very swampy. maybe heat just doesnt bother me like it does others but stop lights dont really effect me too much either. went on a 90 mile ride today and the only thing sweaty was the tips of my hair. and yes, drive fast.
also, a guy with an 2007 hayabusa came up next to me at a stop light and the girl on the back was in a bikini. you could try that. |
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July 2nd, 2012, 12:52 PM | #5 |
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I can wear my mesh jacket in the morning, but after work, there's no way. Stop & go traffic in 100 + degree heat & humidity in the 70 percent range is too much for me. Jeans, boots, golf shirt & gloves is all I can stand. The jacket rides home from work in the backpack.
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July 2nd, 2012, 01:07 PM | #6 |
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That doesn't work.
It's rather complicated, but windchill only makes you colder when the weather is below body temperature. If it's over 100*F, going faster makes you even hotter than standing still, and increases risk of hyperthermia.
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July 2nd, 2012, 01:09 PM | #7 |
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July 2nd, 2012, 01:18 PM | #8 | |
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if you are uncomfortable, chances are you need to ... drink some water. when its that hot out, its not wind that cools you, its evaporating sweat. so sweat it up. keep the sweat up by ... you guessed it... drinking water. when it gets really hot out and the sweat just isnt cutting it, i will dump a cold water bottle down my back. it will be dry in a few minutes but it cools you down a ton
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July 2nd, 2012, 01:35 PM | #9 |
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Assuming your wearing hot weather gear, make sure you gear fits right. Super tight constricts movement, breathing of rider and prevents proper air circulation (what very little you get anyway). Too loose gear doesn't work either, folds in garments prevent proper air circulation. Wear nothing and you get sun burned. Mesh don't help much either, in fact, it just might be worse. Sun bleeds though, air the dries sweat that would cool you off with good air flow.
Nothing else you can really do. Just suck it up and condition yourself to become used to it. Overall, it's not so bad. I love 98 degrees, 98% humidity. And as alex said... drink. You will be like a camel too. I have went 8+ hours without peeing when riding all day.
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July 2nd, 2012, 01:40 PM | #10 |
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I'm use to the heat and any kind of air movement keeps me cool even if it's hot air. The main key is hydration and as most have said already, you just get use to sweating.
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July 2nd, 2012, 01:41 PM | #12 |
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I won't even ride. We are getting 100+ here in KC. If I can't wear my jacket, helmet and gloves, I won't ride. I have quite a bit of money invested in ink on my arms, call me vain but eh Im just not that hardcore.
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July 2nd, 2012, 02:20 PM | #13 |
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I wear jeans, a mesh jacket and gloves with litle scoops on each finger. Often I'll try to not zip the jacket sleeve down to let air run up my arms, don't zip the jacket all the way. My spine protector often sticks to my back, so I change position frequently so I don't collect sweat there.
In the mornings it's often 60F here... I go to work long before dawn, so I wear a windbreaker under the mesh jacket and often a long sleeved shirt. These two fit in the saddlebags just fine. Got no room in the saddlebags for my jacket so I'm "forced" to wear it home.
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July 2nd, 2012, 02:37 PM | #14 | |
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Sat. decided to take 77 North to see my grandma. she lives about 2 hours away. i started off with my jacket on but traffic got congested so bad it was unbearable. I went 27 miles in 2 hours never getting out of 1st i also gto what i like to dub a bikers tan :P from now on on longer rides i am at least going to wear a light hoodie (until i get my mesh) to at least protect from the sun... IT HURT :O |
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July 2nd, 2012, 02:43 PM | #15 |
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Try avoiding the hottest and most humid hours of the day.
Thick cotton cloth under the gear helps absorbing part of the sweat and avoids the discomfort of sticky gear on your skin and running sweat. Be careful if you are sweating too profusely, because that is an indication that your body temperature may be increasing as evaporation of sweat and elimination of body heat is impaired. The brain only tolerates a little temperature increase and it can suddenly shut down without more warning. The body can fight high temperature alone; however, the combination of high air humidity and high temperature is very dangerous. The reason is that the cooling effect is achieved, not by sweating but by the evaporation of the sweat, which is impaired or stopped by high humidity conditions (water molecules don't jump into the air as much).
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July 2nd, 2012, 03:08 PM | #16 |
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It been freaking hot here in Ontario for the last two weeks (34C with humidity almost 40C/104F). Riding home is killer in evening rush hour 30-40mins, would anyone suggest wearing a field armour vest? I am looking into picking one up but I was'nt sure how effective it is in hot riding conditions, thoughts on this?
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July 2nd, 2012, 03:11 PM | #17 | |
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July 2nd, 2012, 03:18 PM | #18 | |
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I'm all for ATGATT but I wore shorts/short sleeves...just too hot & I don't have cooling vests & that nonsense, nor do I have anywhere to store that stuff when i get to work. |
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July 2nd, 2012, 03:23 PM | #19 |
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I just suck it up.
Looking at a mesh jacket now to help. I drive in city rush hour too. I find myself splitting on those unbearable days. |
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July 2nd, 2012, 03:34 PM | #20 |
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My sister from San Diego was blown away by three straight days of 107+ temps here in GA. Anyway, she asked if it was typical, but we haven't broken triple digits in this area in five years and all I had to do was remind her that it was 111 degrees in September in Mira Mesa San Diego back in 2010. We actually spent most of that day in Escondido, where it hit 112. She called a friend in San Diego yesterday and laughed when she complained about the 78-degree "heat" outside (more typical of San Diego).
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July 2nd, 2012, 03:56 PM | #21 |
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We have high humidity and high temps most of the year here My mesh jacket is much better than my old leather on longer rides i wear a neckachief around my neck and keep it wet when ever i stop helps cool me down and stops the sun on the back of my neck
as alex says drink plenty of water
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July 2nd, 2012, 04:08 PM | #22 |
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Mesh jacket w/ cotton t-shirt underneath, gloves with lots of ventilation, jeans, and riding boots.
After 5 hours on a group ride while heading home it was 105 in Knoxville @ 3:45 saturday. I *thought* I was doing alright, but then I realized I was really close to a van in front of me and was oblivious to the surrounding traffic. I pulled over immediately to cool off. One thing I noticed throughout the day, the faster you go on a hot day, the more hot air hits you in the face, there is NO cooling effect. P.S. Water is not the only important thing, salt depravation is what I had symptoms of. I also drank 2 bottles of water at each stop on the ride. |
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July 2nd, 2012, 04:42 PM | #23 |
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Gatorade is what ppl should be drinking.
Devin - props-- I sat my arse inside all weekend from that heat! |
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July 2nd, 2012, 06:20 PM | #25 |
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I've been using those heat out base layers from cycle gear and the work pretty well. I have a vented textile and a mesh jacket and I would die now if I didn't wear the mesh jacket.
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July 2nd, 2012, 06:38 PM | #26 |
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July 2nd, 2012, 11:54 PM | #27 |
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Hydrate or die, mesh jackets, riding faster = more powerful ac and my gauntlets actually have pretty good venting
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July 3rd, 2012, 07:53 PM | #28 | |
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Also wet down the inside of your helmet with cool water (hell soak it) it will keep your head (brain) cool for about an hour.
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July 3rd, 2012, 08:05 PM | #29 |
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Wet rag around the neck rolled like a boy scout....when it's dry on the outside...it's still wet on the inside
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July 4th, 2012, 03:34 AM | #30 |
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I guess that is one benefit of working nights. When I am riding to or from work its either 11pm or 8am so I never get stuck riding during hottest part of the day.
All last week when it was 100+ here in Knoxville I rode with with my perf leather jacket, jeans, riding boots, gloves etc. I did go out once around 5pm and man it was hot, but like everyone else said lots of water!! Everybody should just work weird schedules, theres also the added bonus of not as much traffic Plus day time is over rated anyways
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July 4th, 2012, 06:42 AM | #31 |
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This summer I'm working 6am to about 4 pm... The 6 am ride rocks. 10 mins for what would usually be a 45 min commute during rush hour.
And high heat is no big deal without humidity. Your body cools itself with evaporative cooling. The problem comes in when the humidity goes over 80%, at that point the evaporation is so slow, you will have issues cooling down and sweat profusely. Keep moving fast, or get off the road... |
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Yep, evaporation doesn't work if it's too humid! http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showp...3&postcount=31 http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showp...5&postcount=18 http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=48129
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July 4th, 2012, 03:14 PM | #34 |
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ATGATT all the time even when 100 out (I do live in Utah where the humidity is low). I wear an evaporative vest under my jacket (liner out) wet under armor skull cap. Have not had to wear a wet neck wrap but the theory is that if you cool the neck you keep your brain cooler. Actually, when it is really hot you should insulate yourself from the heat by wearing more gear. To quote David Hough (Proficient Motorcycling):
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July 4th, 2012, 04:04 PM | #36 |
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You have asked the right guy. I live in the tropics where it is hot and humid 12 months out of the year. I wear ATGATT, and am generally comfortable. My top tricks:
1. Drink lots of water and learn to appreciate the cooling properties of sweat. Sweat + cooling breezes makes you cooler even if it is hot air. Sweating is good. 2. Chase airflow. Wear mesh gear if it is less than 98 degrees out. There is good mesh gear out there that is also safe. REV'IT, Dainese, Olympia, BMW, Motoport all make decent mesh gear. If more than 98 degrees, probably best to cover up a bit more, think Tuareg tribesman. 3. Wear light colors. Not only to they reflect the sun and keep you cooler, they also make you safer. 4. Stay wet. Soak your shirt or bandana. Or wear a camelbak and let the tube drip water down your shirt. I have a Fieldsheer Iceberg Vest. It stays wet and cool for about an 1/2 to an hour of feeling cool before it needs to be recharged with another soak in water. I'll soak my helmet liner, which keeps my head cool for about an hour. 5. Socks and underwear count. Don't cheap out on socks and underwear. I wear Under Armour Heat Gear or the new Cycle Gear Heat Out gear to help my body evaporate more efficiently. (Do I even need to say that the Under Armour stuff is way better quality?) Both really work - helping draw out moisture, spread it into larger area and smaller drops to make evaporation more efficient. Difference in comfort when I'm wearing standard cotton vs. the high tech undergarments beneath my gear is amazing. 6. Avoid traffic and stoplights. Being stopped sucks. Airflow drops and you don't evaporate heat as efficiently. Plus, the engine heat gets you. This goes with number 2. As mentioned, when humidity gets up over 80%, which is pretty often here, evaporation doesn't work. Keeping moving with lots of airflow with mesh gear is key to getting that sweat off of you and evaporation working. Really speeds up the amount of air over your sweat, so even if the efficiency of evaporation is very low, you can make up for it with volume and get decent cooling if you can keep moving. That is if it isn't . . . 7. . . . over 98 degrees and over 80 percent humidity, then you are screwed. Just nothing can be done then. Stop regularly if you have to go out, and limit your time on the bike.
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July 4th, 2012, 04:06 PM | #37 |
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July 4th, 2012, 05:13 PM | #38 |
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take advantage of the power of evaporation.
There's this old, old concept called a "swamp cooler." It's simple… just wet your clothes. Works like a charm. Look, you're going to get soaked anyway, right? When it's super-hot I wear a wicking, long-sleeve T-shirt and put my regular work shirt in my tank bag. Before gearing up I go to the bathroom and soak it in cold water. I don't wring it out… the wetter it is, the better. I do the same with my skull cap (I always wear one to keep my helmet from getting nasty over time). This works great. Put your regular clothes in your tank bag or wherever. I also have a cooling vest which also works well and lasts longer, but it's bulkier. The key is to stop often enough that it never gets dry. It only takes moments to get it wet again... |
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July 4th, 2012, 05:37 PM | #39 |
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Thanks for advice guys. Tomorrow is close to 100 with dewpoints in the upper 70's, I'm going to try wetting my helmet liner or head and shirt. Got a mesh jacket to try out to help with air flow. My pants will probably be the warmest as they don't let much wind through, but my legs being warm is too much of a concern for me. I was out today in similar conditions in a t-shirt and shorts sweating my butt off, so it's impossible to be perfectly "comfortable" in this weather regardless.
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July 4th, 2012, 09:28 PM | #40 |
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Well you might have a point there.. Maybe just everyone on ninjette
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