Mounting New tires

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · December 28th, 2013, 05:51 PM

How do you guys mount new tires on the rims?

I tried blasting compressed air in through the valve stem after I had put the tires on and it didn't work. Do I have to remove the valve core to set the bead on the rim when doing this? I also tried spraying starter fluid all around the rim but it only set my tire on fire..... The bike shops nearby are all closed for the holidays I'd really like to ride again asap!

Alex · December 28th, 2013, 05:53 PM

Talk to @rasta (link to recent thread)

rasta · December 28th, 2013, 06:33 PM

lol I'm quite an expert after my ordeal last week.

The valve stem should be removed, it will allow you to blast more air into the tire.

Felipe the Ant · December 28th, 2013, 06:40 PM

Take the core out and shove an air hose on the stem. If that fails you can always spray something fun in there and touch it off. Or get a bigger air tank that flows more

Motofool · December 28th, 2013, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FvnnyL3tt3r1ng

............I tried blasting compressed air in through the valve stem after I had put the tires on and it didn't work. Do I have to remove the valve core to set the bead on the rim when doing this? I also tried spraying starter fluid all around the rim but it only set my tire on fire.....

The tire and wheel should be properly lubricated, both beads should be contacting the wheel all around and the valve core may be removed from the valve stem to allow more air flow into the tire.

If the beads don't seal all around, you can tie a rope or belt around the perimeter of the tire, like in the pic, in order to spread the beads.

You should keep hands, arms, and entire body away from the tire during the bead seat and inflation.
Do not stand over the tire.
Do not leave tools on the tire sidewall when inflating tire. NEVER increase air pressure to exceed 40 psi when attempting bead seating.

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · December 29th, 2013, 06:03 AM

Ok, will try! Have to go to my storage unit to pick up the core removal tool anyways.

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · December 29th, 2013, 12:16 PM

Ok, strap around the tire worked great for the back tire but now the front won't seal up even with 2 straps on it. I don't know what to do I tried starter fluid and pry bars to seat the tire but nothing is working....

Motofool · December 29th, 2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FvnnyL3tt3r1ng

.........I don't know what to do I tried starter fluid and pry bars to seat the tire but nothing is working....

You could use a bicycle inner tube (maybe a 20") as a donut to restrain the air from escaping too fast until you build up some pressure.

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · December 29th, 2013, 12:56 PM

That's not a bad idea.... To give up or push on???

Motofool · December 29th, 2013, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FvnnyL3tt3r1ng

That's not a bad idea.... To give up or push on???

http://www.gtsparkplugs.com/Bead_Seat.html

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · December 29th, 2013, 02:31 PM

Crazy thing is there is this random rubber o-ring laying in the garage.... Must try!

Felipe the Ant · December 29th, 2013, 03:20 PM

Also see if there's any way you can get more air flow

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · December 29th, 2013, 03:33 PM

O ring was too small. I think it was from a vacuum cleaner. Will buy a bike tube tomorrow and give it a try. I am using an 11gal portable tank with a short rubber hose with 300 psi rating connected to a trigger you squeeze to let air out..... a 16" tube will work for our bikes I would imagine??

I wonder if there are any around the house products I could use in place of the inner tube so I don't have to wait til tomorrow....

Sykes92 · December 29th, 2013, 05:10 PM

After reading some articles and the thread rasta had, I feel like I might just pay more $$$ and have a dealership swap tires for me

lol.

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · December 29th, 2013, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sykes92

After reading some articles and the thread rasta had, I feel like I might just pay more $$$ and have a dealership swap tires for me

lol.

I don't blame you but I will say it gets easier every time. By the time you get the process down it will be a piece of cake. I think next tire change will be very easy. From what I've learned I do think tires with higher aspect ratios seat easier.....

Motofool · December 29th, 2013, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FvnnyL3tt3r1ng

..........I wonder if there are any around the house products I could use in place of the inner tube so I don't have to wait til tomorrow....

Do you have a rubber hose or foam tube (floater or pipe insulation) to make a donut with?

kirk595x · December 30th, 2013, 12:16 AM

I had a flat on the highway once and broke the bead. We connected two belts around the center and cinched while my compressor was on and it worked.

Best way I've found is to get a ratcheting tie down, lube up the bead with soapy water or WD-40 and ratchet away while the compressor is on. I've done this with bike, Atv and car tires with great success.

csmith12 · December 30th, 2013, 06:59 AM

Link to original page on YouTube.

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · December 30th, 2013, 12:14 PM

The ratcheting tie down didn't work. I think the compressor hose itself might work (an extra) but I'm gonna buy a tire tube today.

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · December 31st, 2013, 05:38 PM

put a 16" inner tube on one side of rim but it didn't help. Air still leaks out.... I would've bought two but they only had one left at the store...... I'll try again tomorrow when there is actually light out.

kirk595x · December 31st, 2013, 06:09 PM

Have you tried warming the tire up before trying to seat the bead? Either leave it out in the sun if it's warm or a space heater then try the strap method?

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · December 31st, 2013, 08:26 PM

I mean I'm sure it wouldn't hurt but the temp has been around 77+ here so I wouldn't say they are frozen or anything. Hopefully walmart is open tomorrow so I can get another inner tube.... Seems like such a small thing to be stuck on but what can you do....

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · January 1st, 2014, 08:35 AM

With 2 tubes it starts to seat then the tubes pop out and air leaks out. Grrr

Motofool · January 1st, 2014, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FvnnyL3tt3r1ng

With 2 tubes it starts to seat then the tubes pop out and air leaks out. Grrr

More lube, more patience and then, even more lube !!!

Keep that brake disc protected from any forces.

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · January 1st, 2014, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Motofool

More lube, more patience and then, even more lube !!!

Keep that brake disc protected from any forces.

I went to a tire kingdom and they shot it with a ton of air and seated it. They said it was free so I gave the worker $20. I'm not sure it was gonna work ever my way because I think I would need a whole lot more air pressure/volume to seat the bead as quickly as possible. Never buying that size tire for the front again! The bigger the better imo....

Motofool · January 1st, 2014, 11:05 AM

What tire is it?

Sometimes, the tires are flattened sideways due to long storage at the bottom of a pile of tires.

FvnnyL3tt3r1ng · January 1st, 2014, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Motofool

What tire is it?

Sometimes, the tires are flattened sideways due to long storage at the bottom of a pile of tires.

Pirelli diablo scooter? 100/?? -16......

December 28th, 2013, 05:51 PM	#1
FvnnyL3tt3r1ng ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Justin Location: Florida Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2001 Posts: A lot.	Mounting New tires How do you guys mount new tires on the rims? I tried blasting compressed air in through the valve stem after I had put the tires on and it didn't work. Do I have to remove the valve core to set the bead on the rim when doing this? I also tried spraying starter fluid all around the rim but it only set my tire on fire..... The bike shops nearby are all closed for the holidays I'd really like to ride again asap! __________________________________________________ Mods: Offset clutch pressure plate

December 28th, 2013, 05:53 PM	#2
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December 28th, 2013, 06:33 PM	#3
rasta Your face Name: Wes Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Honda CBR650f Posts: A lot.	lol I'm quite an expert after my ordeal last week. The valve stem should be removed, it will allow you to blast more air into the tire. __________________________________________________ "even a proper fitting helmet can 'get loose'" -csmith

December 28th, 2013, 06:40 PM	#4
Felipe the Ant ninjette.org sage Name: . Location: . Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R SE GREEN! Posts: 562	Take the core out and shove an air hose on the stem. If that fails you can always spray something fun in there and touch it off. Or get a bigger air tank that flows more __________________________________________________ Trust me, I'm a banana!

December 29th, 2013, 06:03 AM	#6
FvnnyL3tt3r1ng ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Justin Location: Florida Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2001 Posts: A lot.	Ok, will try! Have to go to my storage unit to pick up the core removal tool anyways. __________________________________________________ Mods: Offset clutch pressure plate

December 29th, 2013, 12:16 PM	#7
FvnnyL3tt3r1ng ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Justin Location: Florida Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2001 Posts: A lot.	Ok, strap around the tire worked great for the back tire but now the front won't seal up even with 2 straps on it. I don't know what to do I tried starter fluid and pry bars to seat the tire but nothing is working.... __________________________________________________ Mods: Offset clutch pressure plate

December 29th, 2013, 12:56 PM	#9
FvnnyL3tt3r1ng ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Justin Location: Florida Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2001 Posts: A lot.	That's not a bad idea.... To give up or push on??? __________________________________________________ Mods: Offset clutch pressure plate

December 29th, 2013, 02:31 PM	#11
FvnnyL3tt3r1ng ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Justin Location: Florida Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2001 Posts: A lot.	Crazy thing is there is this random rubber o-ring laying in the garage.... Must try! __________________________________________________ Mods: Offset clutch pressure plate

December 29th, 2013, 03:20 PM	#12
Felipe the Ant ninjette.org sage Name: . Location: . Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R SE GREEN! Posts: 562	Also see if there's any way you can get more air flow __________________________________________________ Trust me, I'm a banana!

December 29th, 2013, 03:33 PM	#13
FvnnyL3tt3r1ng ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Justin Location: Florida Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2001 Posts: A lot.	O ring was too small. I think it was from a vacuum cleaner. Will buy a bike tube tomorrow and give it a try. I am using an 11gal portable tank with a short rubber hose with 300 psi rating connected to a trigger you squeeze to let air out..... a 16" tube will work for our bikes I would imagine?? I wonder if there are any around the house products I could use in place of the inner tube so I don't have to wait til tomorrow.... __________________________________________________ Mods: Offset clutch pressure plate

December 29th, 2013, 05:10 PM	#14
Sykes92 Jedi on Two Wheels Name: Cameron Location: Kent Island Join Date: Nov 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Kawasaki Ninja 250r (Slightly Modded) Posts: 489	After reading some articles and the thread rasta had, I feel like I might just pay more $$$ and have a dealership swap tires for me lol.

December 30th, 2013, 12:16 AM	#17
kirk595x ninjette.org guru Name: Robbie Location: Sacramento Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 03' Ninja 250ex Posts: 333	I had a flat on the highway once and broke the bead. We connected two belts around the center and cinched while my compressor was on and it worked. Best way I've found is to get a ratcheting tie down, lube up the bead with soapy water or WD-40 and ratchet away while the compressor is on. I've done this with bike, Atv and car tires with great success. __________________________________________________ Perform Random Acts of Coolness!!ATGATT
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December 30th, 2013, 06:59 AM	#18
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December 30th, 2013, 12:14 PM	#19
FvnnyL3tt3r1ng ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Justin Location: Florida Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2001 Posts: A lot.	The ratcheting tie down didn't work. I think the compressor hose itself might work (an extra) but I'm gonna buy a tire tube today. __________________________________________________ Mods: Offset clutch pressure plate

December 31st, 2013, 05:38 PM	#20
FvnnyL3tt3r1ng ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Justin Location: Florida Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2001 Posts: A lot.	put a 16" inner tube on one side of rim but it didn't help. Air still leaks out.... I would've bought two but they only had one left at the store...... I'll try again tomorrow when there is actually light out. __________________________________________________ Mods: Offset clutch pressure plate

December 31st, 2013, 06:09 PM	#21
kirk595x ninjette.org guru Name: Robbie Location: Sacramento Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 03' Ninja 250ex Posts: 333	Have you tried warming the tire up before trying to seat the bead? Either leave it out in the sun if it's warm or a space heater then try the strap method? __________________________________________________ Perform Random Acts of Coolness!!ATGATT

December 31st, 2013, 08:26 PM	#22
FvnnyL3tt3r1ng ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Justin Location: Florida Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2001 Posts: A lot.	I mean I'm sure it wouldn't hurt but the temp has been around 77+ here so I wouldn't say they are frozen or anything. Hopefully walmart is open tomorrow so I can get another inner tube.... Seems like such a small thing to be stuck on but what can you do.... __________________________________________________ Mods: Offset clutch pressure plate

January 1st, 2014, 08:35 AM	#23
FvnnyL3tt3r1ng ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Justin Location: Florida Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2001 Posts: A lot.	With 2 tubes it starts to seat then the tubes pop out and air leaks out. Grrr __________________________________________________ Mods: Offset clutch pressure plate

January 1st, 2014, 11:05 AM	#26
Motofool Daily Ninjette rider Name: Hernan Location: Florida Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTY - 2016, MOTM - Dec '12, Jan '14, Jan '15, May '16	What tire is it? Sometimes, the tires are flattened sideways due to long storage at the bottom of a pile of tires. __________________________________________________ *Motofool* *.................................Never ride faster than your guardian angel can fly* "Mankind is composed of two sorts of men — those who love and create, and those who hate and destroy. Love is the bond between men, the way to teach and the center of the world." - José Martí

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