Waving shouldn't be a big deal. - Page 3

Rugby Winger · August 21st, 2013, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by rasta

The fact that you came to, of all places, a motorcycle forum to air these grievances is extremely confusing. You came to a place full of people with a similar passion and lifestyle to let us know that you don't care for the lifestyle. It's like joining Facebook to complain how stupid social media is. Basically I'm glad I don't know you in real life, because you sound like a major bummer

It didn't take me as long as you to make the judgment about you. You don't get it and you never will. I tried to state my motive with the utmost level of simplicity and you still don't understand. I'm only on this forum to learn how to work on this bike. So no your analogy is terrible because you have confused my motives. Is it a crime to post a motorcycle confrontation on a motorcycle forum. I like to be the villain at times but I don't how you are able to do that based on my actions.

Boom King · August 21st, 2013, 06:32 AM

Some people are antisocial for whatever reason, whether it's personal or some sort of real condition. I'm not going to judge. Regardless, with all due respect, this is unfortunately what happens when you choose not to play with the other kids in the sandbox. You get viewed as an outcast and different. Once you're labelled as such, there may be a hot head who views that difference in an adversarial manner and kicks the sand back in your face. Aside from the hand gestures or lack thereof and a few nasty words, both parties at least didn't escalate it to something more.

Sinister · August 21st, 2013, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Winger

It didn't take me as long as you to make the judgment about you. You don't get it and you never will. I tried to state my motive with the utmost level of simplicity and you still don't understand. I'm only on this forum to learn how to work on this bike. So no your analogy is terrible because you have confused my motives. Is it a crime to post a motorcycle confrontation on a motorcycle forum. I like to be the villain at times but I don't how you are able to do that based on my actions.

And where in your original post were you delving for technical information? You made a non-technical, socially invested post and get confused when people think you have the social skills of an acorn.......?

Motofool · August 21st, 2013, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Winger

My arm is always like that except only my hand is grabbing my thigh with my elbow bent outward.......

That may have been close enough for that grumpy bastard to feel "disrespected".

..........just crazy !!!

I don't understand that gangster mentality.
How can you respect or disrespect someone that you don't know?
They don't respect each other, they can only hate, abuse or fear other people.

Sure, due to ignorance of the significance of a gesture, you could offend somebody.
But this is a gesture that not everybody riding a motorcycle knows; hence, if unable to "take it", the offended part could have limited himself to clarify things verbally rather than confronting you like a cave Australopithecus.

I think that you handled a bad situation very well.

csmith12 · August 21st, 2013, 07:29 AM

^^^ +1 for useing australopithecus on a MC forum. lol

csmith12 · August 21st, 2013, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Winger

I'm only on this forum to learn how to work on this bike.

What can we help you with?

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Originally Posted by Rugby Winger

I like to be the villain at times.

JohnnyBravo · August 21st, 2013, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by csmith12

^^^ +1 for useing australopithecus on a MC forum. lol

I don't know that

It's like a Star Trek convention, some folks take bikes an a biker lifestyle way to seriously. I woulda simply gave ya

and

in my helmet, then

on my way

... Be glad ya didn't get

rasta · August 21st, 2013, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Winger

It didn't take me as long as you to make the judgment about you. You don't get it and you never will. I tried to state my motive with the utmost level of simplicity and you still don't understa. I'm only on this forum to learn how to work on this bike. So no your analogy is terrible because you have confused my motives. Is it a crime to post a motorcycle confrontation on a motorcycle forum. I like to be the villain at times but I don't how you are able to do that based on my actions.

I'm sure you can see where I got confused, as this thread has absolutely nothing to do with that.

And when you say something like this....

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Originally Posted by Rugby Winger

I have met some good biker people. They aren't my friends but they are good people. They've offered me to go to the track with them and hang out though I know I won't. I've met good people. I just don't feel one of them nor will I try to be. I'm just a random guy who happens to own a motorcycle and it happens to be a Ninja 250R. I love it but I don't have a passion for it nor for bikes. I guess I was burnt out of love after my days riding dirt bikes. Someone could steal it and throw it off of a cliff and I wouldn't shed a tear. Though it would be admittedly a slight inconvenience.

On a motorcycle forum, I'm afraid you might be the one that doesn't "get it"

Alex · August 21st, 2013, 09:08 AM

LittleRedNinjette · August 21st, 2013, 09:37 AM

Motofool · August 21st, 2013, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Please, please, people, .............go for a ride, ........and wave to everyone !!!

Thorgrim · August 21st, 2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Motofool

Please, please, people, .............go for a ride, ........and wave to everyone !!!

No way, I want to hear more from the "ME!" generation.

lgk · August 21st, 2013, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Thorgrim

No way, I want to hear more from unintentionally rude people.

fixed it for you

JohnnyBravo · August 21st, 2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rasta

I'm sure you can see where I got confused, as this thread has absolutely nothing to do with that.
when you say something like this....
On a motorcycle forum, I'm afraid you might be the one that doesn't "get it"

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Originally Posted by LittleRedNinjette

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Originally Posted by Motofool

Please, please, people, .............go for a ride, ........and wave to everyone !!!

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Originally Posted by Thorgrim

No way, I want to hear more from the "ME!" generation.

JohnnyBravo · August 21st, 2013, 12:38 PM

Thorgrim · August 21st, 2013, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

OK, OK! Back to topic, waving shouldn't be a big deal, I agree with the title. Wave if you like, don't if you don't, but don't get your knickers in a twist either way. Remember what part of the country you're in, though, and try to go with the flow if you like your riding experience to be smooth.

I taught my son that good manners cost nothing, not even extra effort once you make a habit of them, and they'll open doors in life that no other key can unlock. He's since moved to NYC, NJ, and NY state, been there for around ten years, and he swears that I was right (at least about that idea). Maybe the folks there just think he is quaint or backward and humor him, but he's had some fantastic good fortune that he attributes to that attitude about other people. Doesn't mean he's a pushover - never mistake kindness for weakness.

There, we're back on topic. Kinda, sorta.

Now, to tackle something less pleasant to discuss ... RugbyWingman, are you saying that you came to this site just to pick its bones for anything you find helpful, with no intentions of trying to give anything back? And you didn't expect any backlash? If so, you certainly live in a different world than I do.

rasta · August 21st, 2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Now, to tackle something less pleasant to discuss ... RugbyWingman, are you saying that you came to this site just to pick its bones for anything you find helpful, with no intentions of trying to give anything back? And you didn't expect any backlash? If so, you certainly live in a different world than I do.

I believe what he's trying to say is that he rides a Ninja 250; but doesn't give a damn about other motorcycles, other motorcyclists, the lifestyle of owning a motorcycle, the shared interest he has with other riders, anything related to motorcycles, or anyone that isn't already involved with his daily routine. It's my personal opinion that the OP might consider getting tested for Aspergers

parox91 · August 21st, 2013, 02:35 PM

Make sure that attitude only applies to waving; staying safe on the road goes hand in hand with being nice and courteous.

Used Ninja · August 21st, 2013, 04:13 PM

You were probably the first sport bike he decided to wave to and you rejected him. I've never seen a cruiser wave to this day, but if I do I will certainly wave back so I can have more of them doing it! You don't have to wave back, but I've always enjoyed the waving aspect of riding.

Waving is a nice gesture, and you don't have to respond. Safety first, kiddos! My first day riding my crappy used ninja and I already had a waver and I was like no way can I acknowledge this guy... I haven't used a real bike in a year!

Motofool · August 21st, 2013, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

A continuous steady stream of notes still flows 36 hours after being initiated by that cruiser's timid hand wave.

This thread is the perfect perpetuum mobile !!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetuum_mobile

I bet Roderick (Rugby Winger) will seriously consider what to do about the next wave to be sent his way.

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Originally Posted by Rugby Winger

...........Just venting this annoying confrontation that happened a couple of hours ago.

ally99 · August 21st, 2013, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Winger

That is like me eating pizza and someone waves at me because they are eating pizza as well. Uh...ok unless it is a hot girl then I can make exceptions.
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It takes all kinds of folks to make the world go round. Be who you are. That said, being in such a infinitesimally small minority of extreme antisocials, good luck getting the hot girl wave.

Rugby Winger · August 21st, 2013, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Now, to tackle something less pleasant to discuss ... RugbyWingman, are you saying that you came to this site just to pick its bones for anything you find helpful, with no intentions of trying to give anything back? And you didn't expect any backlash? If so, you certainly live in a different world than I do.

Uh yeah, just lurk when the bike needs something done on how to do it. How do I give back? By waving? I don't frequent enough on the forum to answer other people's questions anyway.

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Originally Posted by rasta

I believe what he's trying to say is that he rides a Ninja 250; but doesn't give a damn about other motorcycles, other motorcyclists, the lifestyle of owning a motorcycle, the shared interest he has with other riders, anything related to motorcycles, or anyone that isn't already involved with his daily routine. It's my personal opinion that the OP might consider getting tested for Aspergers

You finally got something right sort of. No I don't have Aspergers. Already got tested for it amongst other things quite recently when psychological testing was recommended for my career. Try again if you like.

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Originally Posted by ally99

It takes all kinds of folks to make the world go round. Be who you are. That said, being in such a infinitesimally small minority of extreme antisocials, good luck getting the hot girl wave.

Well considering one of the first people I met after I signed the paperwork and was handed the keys was a hot girl on a bike. She waved as I got on my bike and she turned around after I motioned her over. We talk but we're just cool.

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Originally Posted by Motofool

I bet Roderick (Rugby Winger) will seriously consider what to do about the next wave to be sent his way.

I would be more than happy to never see another wave again. If I do then I'll just do as I've always done and not respond. I'm focused on my ride and my commute. I enjoy (well not technically) my ride my way and I shall continue to do so. Other riders will enjoy their rides their way. If that includes waving to me if I pass by them then whatever. They aren't entitled to a response especially when I never asked for it. I'm not trying to sound like a prick at all but whatever.

General: I consider myself to be a decent person. I'm not disrespectful but I'm very indifferent about a lot of things. Just because I take no interest in you shouldn't be considered a slight. That moment when I'm passing a motorcycle shouldn't carry such a cross.

JohnnyBravo · August 21st, 2013, 10:31 PM

Is he the first one on the site to compare waving to crucifixion?

Rugby Winger · August 21st, 2013, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

Is he the first one on the site to compare waving to crucifixion?

I had no idea that I did. There is a first time for everything.

JohnnyBravo · August 21st, 2013, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Winger

I had no idea that I did. There is a first time for everything.

Haha... True that. Ride safe an have fun out there

kirk595x · August 21st, 2013, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

Is he the first one on the site to compare waving to crucifixion?

Can we put the proverbial Nail in this thread?

Alex · August 21st, 2013, 10:44 PM

JohnnyBravo · August 21st, 2013, 10:49 PM

kirk595x · August 21st, 2013, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Leaky · August 22nd, 2013, 01:24 PM

ITT: People over analyzing a simple situation.

Other biker overreacted like people do sometimes. Restaurants, bars, sports venues, on the streets, some people are assholes.

OP was rude. Simple as that. Example: You walk into your work elevator with someone else, they say "Hi." They're just trying to be friendly, you dont even have to work together or even for the same company. You're both on the same elevator, both going up to work, no one really wants to be there. Do you just look at them and glare, or just simply say "Hi." back and it ends there. It's a simple courtesy that some over analyze.

lgk · August 22nd, 2013, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Leaky

ITT: People over analyzing a simple situation.

Other biker overreacted like people do sometimes. Restaurants, bars, sports venues, on the streets, some people are assholes.

OP was rude. Simple as that. Example: You walk into your work elevator with someone else, they say "Hi." They're just trying to be friendly, you dont even have to work together or even for the same company. You're both on the same elevator, both going up to work, no one really wants to be there. Do you just look at them and glare, or just simply say "Hi." back and it ends there. It's a simple courtesy that some over analyze.

Yea, except what the op did was essentially flip the other biker off.

rasta · August 22nd, 2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Leaky

ITT: People over analyzing a simple situation.

Other biker overreacted like people do sometimes. Restaurants, bars, sports venues, on the streets, some people are assholes.

OP was rude. Simple as that. Example: You walk into your work elevator with someone else, they say "Hi." They're just trying to be friendly, you dont even have to work together or even for the same company. You're both on the same elevator, both going up to work, no one really wants to be there. Do you just look at them and glare, or just simply say "Hi." back and it ends there. It's a simple courtesy that some over analyze.

I agree, OP clearly has Aspergers

parox91 · August 22nd, 2013, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rasta

I agree, OP clearly has Aspergers

I wouldn't be surprised if he was a troll...

Rugby Winger · August 22nd, 2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rasta

I agree, OP clearly has Aspergers

You won't let that go will you? If I did then that truly would be a nice excuse. I'm not a troll. I was sharing an event on someone getting butthurt over something I have no obligation. You are trying too hard and are over thinking it.
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Alex · August 22nd, 2013, 03:02 PM

Folks - gently hinting hasn't worked. No more T.O.S. warnings in this thread. As a reminder:

1.4. Members have the right to interact in a respectful environment.

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2.1. Members will conduct themselves in a respectful manner. This is not to say that arguments and disagreements between Members are not permitted, simply that a level of respect is to be maintained in doing so. Members' posts should not contain malicious personal attacks, flaming, baiting, trolling, e-sniping, e-stalking, indirect attacks, and other such activities that are not conducive to a positive and productive environment. Personal threats will not be tolerated, and may result in a suspension, if not a perma-ban. Such posts will be acted on by interpretation of admins and/or moderators.

Thorgrim · August 22nd, 2013, 04:59 PM

Twists and turns of the thread aside, I'm glad it's here because I didn't know about the whole "left hand on knee or thigh" being a sign of disrespect. I do that naturally at times and it would be wise of me to break the habit.

ninja_thresh_hold · August 22nd, 2013, 05:48 PM

does it make me a dick because i dont wave at people on vespas, or scooters? imo theyre not real motorcyclists, and even though they have the same risks, i still refuse to wave

ForceofWill · August 22nd, 2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ninja_thresh_hold

does it make me a dick because i dont wave at people on vespas, or scooters? imo theyre not real motorcyclists, and even though they have the same risks, i still refuse to wave

The rule:

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2) If you do manage to see an oncoming bike with enough time to get an appropriate wave up, you better make sure it isn't a scooter. Unwritten bike rules make it a crime punishable by exile or death to wave at a scooter. And damn if it isn't hard to tell when you two are approaching each other at a combined 100 mph. If you do catch yourself mid-wave to a Vespa, however, it is acceptable to slowly turn it into an upraised middle finger. It's like the handshake-psyche of the two-wheeled world, and the look of dejection on their face will redeem any momentary awkwardness.

xSean13 · August 22nd, 2013, 05:56 PM

Let's not forget Spyders and other three-wheelers, I never wave to them.

IF13 · August 22nd, 2013, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by xSean13

Let's not forget Spyders and other three-wheelers, I never wave to them.

I wave to everyone.

Cruisers, choppers, Can-Ams, sport bikes, and drivers of very nice cars.

I'm pretty friendly towards everyone except ricers. Those with FWD cars and huge spoilers or imports in general that have more stickers than aftermarket upgrades UNDER the hood.

EDIT: Yes, even scooters. My belief is that they're still on two wheels, still capable of doing highway speeds, and are still enjoying the freedom that comes with being out of a cage.

August 21st, 2013, 06:32 AM	#82
Boom King So, where's the reverse? Name: Anson Location: Ontario, Canada Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	Some people are antisocial for whatever reason, whether it's personal or some sort of real condition. I'm not going to judge. Regardless, with all due respect, this is unfortunately what happens when you choose not to play with the other kids in the sandbox. You get viewed as an outcast and different. Once you're labelled as such, there may be a hot head who views that difference in an adversarial manner and kicks the sand back in your face. Aside from the hand gestures or lack thereof and a few nasty words, both parties at least didn't escalate it to something more.
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August 21st, 2013, 07:29 AM	#85
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August 21st, 2013, 09:08 AM	#89
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	__________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)
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August 21st, 2013, 09:37 AM	#90
LittleRedNinjette Certified Troublemaker Name: Teri Location: Hamilton, NJ Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250r "Pikachu", 2017 Ninja 650 "Epona" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Aug '13, Aug '14, Feb '17	__________________________________________________ Raven's Rejuvenation A bruise is a lesson... and each lesson makes us better...

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August 21st, 2013, 02:35 PM	#98
parox91 ninjette.org member Name: Not Applicable Location: hamden ct Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: 171	Make sure that attitude only applies to waving; staying safe on the road goes hand in hand with being nice and courteous.
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August 21st, 2013, 04:13 PM	#99
Used Ninja ninjette.org member Name: John Location: Blue Join Date: Aug 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 Posts: 52	You were probably the first sport bike he decided to wave to and you rejected him. I've never seen a cruiser wave to this day, but if I do I will certainly wave back so I can have more of them doing it! You don't have to wave back, but I've always enjoyed the waving aspect of riding. Waving is a nice gesture, and you don't have to respond. Safety first, kiddos! My first day riding my crappy used ninja and I already had a waver and I was like no way can I acknowledge this guy... I haven't used a real bike in a year!

August 21st, 2013, 10:31 PM	#103
JohnnyBravo Certifiable nontundrum Name: Harper Location: NC Milkshake stand Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 SE NINJA 300 Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '13, Sep '16	Is he the first one on the site to compare waving to crucifixion? __________________________________________________

August 21st, 2013, 10:44 PM	#107
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	__________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

August 21st, 2013, 10:49 PM	#108
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August 22nd, 2013, 01:24 PM	#110
Leaky ninjette.org member Name: Leaky Location: Ontario Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 09 250R Posts: 10	ITT: People over analyzing a simple situation. Other biker overreacted like people do sometimes. Restaurants, bars, sports venues, on the streets, some people are assholes. OP was rude. Simple as that. Example: You walk into your work elevator with someone else, they say "Hi." They're just trying to be friendly, you dont even have to work together or even for the same company. You're both on the same elevator, both going up to work, no one really wants to be there. Do you just look at them and glare, or just simply say "Hi." back and it ends there. It's a simple courtesy that some over analyze.

August 22nd, 2013, 03:02 PM	#115
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Folks - gently hinting hasn't worked. No more T.O.S. warnings in this thread. As a reminder: 1.4. Members have the right to interact in a respectful environment. & 2.1. Members will conduct themselves in a respectful manner. This is not to say that arguments and disagreements between Members are not permitted, simply that a level of respect is to be maintained in doing so. Members' posts should not contain malicious personal attacks, flaming, baiting, trolling, e-sniping, e-stalking, indirect attacks, and other such activities that are not conducive to a positive and productive environment. Personal threats will not be tolerated, and may result in a suspension, if not a perma-ban. Such posts will be acted on by interpretation of admins and/or moderators. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)
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August 22nd, 2013, 04:59 PM	#116
Thorgrim War Hippie Name: Bob Location: upper east Tennessee Join Date: Aug 2013 Motorcycle(s): CB500F Posts: 156	Twists and turns of the thread aside, I'm glad it's here because I didn't know about the whole "left hand on knee or thigh" being a sign of disrespect. I do that naturally at times and it would be wise of me to break the habit.
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August 22nd, 2013, 05:48 PM	#117
ninja_thresh_hold ninjette.org ********* Name: Eric Location: Athens, Alabama Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250r (忍者 250r; sold!) 2001 zx6r Posts: 347	does it make me a dick because i dont wave at people on vespas, or scooters? imo theyre not real motorcyclists, and even though they have the same risks, i still refuse to wave __________________________________________________

August 22nd, 2013, 05:56 PM	#119
xSean13 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sean Location: Middle TN Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250r (sold) / '03 CBR 600RR Posts: A lot.	Let's not forget Spyders and other three-wheelers, I never wave to them.

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