FZ-09

indr · June 30th, 2013, 05:08 PM

Possibly my next if I have enough money by next year.

847cc triple nekkid.

Anyone else looking forward to it?

http://www.yamahamotorsports.com/spo...85/0/home.aspx

c-dog · June 30th, 2013, 05:50 PM

It's pretty interesting that Yamaha is moving into 3 cylinder engines on the new bikes. I wonder if the 4 cylinder is going to be kind of phased out in the future?

I bet the 3 cylinder engine makes for a better street bike than a 4 cylinder - the 3 has more down low torque.

I like the sound of 4 cylinders though. It will be interesting to see where the future of motorcycles goes before we're all driving those electric Zero bikes.

thisisbenji · June 30th, 2013, 08:25 PM

I'm very intrigued by this new one. If it gets good reviews maybe I'll pick up a used one five years from now! My FZ6 keeps me happy as it is though.

Reswob · June 30th, 2013, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indr

Anyone else looking forward to it?

Not at all. The original triple naked bike has been around for a while, and looks much better than that Yami to boot. It even has a little brother now.

http://www.triumphmotorcycles.com/mo...s/speed-triple

http://www.triumphmotorcycles.com/mo.../street-triple

thisisbenji · June 30th, 2013, 08:38 PM

You forgot to mention the triumph is an extra 2k and has less power. So unless your carving canyons everyday it might not be the way to go. We will have to wait for a comparison.

Reswob · June 30th, 2013, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thisisbenji

You forgot to mention the triumph is an extra 2k and has less power. So unless your carving canyons everyday it might not be the way to go. We will have to wait for a comparison.

$1400 more and 105hp vs 113 (aka no difference to speak of, despite the Yami's 172cc advantage). The Street also weighs 14lbs less, so let's just call the power and weight equal for both bikes.

Brother Michigan · June 30th, 2013, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reswob

$1400 more and 105hp vs 113 (aka no difference to speak of, despite the Yami's 172cc advantage). The Street also weighs 14lbs less, so let's just call the power and weight equal for both bikes.

Sooo, $1400 more for...?

(Sorry, I like to agitate.

)

Will definitely be shopping BOTH of these bikes whenever I decide to get my Ninjette a partner.

Panda · June 30th, 2013, 10:01 PM

Because they like triumph.

For my money a triumph with an arrow can sounds like sex.

KawiKid860 · June 30th, 2013, 10:56 PM

Found the triumph fanboy

Daks · July 1st, 2013, 12:09 AM

It's just so....ugly.

Like damn
you may have found those 80s-colored wheels leftover in a warehouse somewhere but it didn't mean you had to use them.
There's just no beauty in it at all.

Panda · July 1st, 2013, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KawiKid860

Found the triumph fanboy

Not quite.

Dark · July 1st, 2013, 07:00 AM

The ONLY thing I don't like about the FZ-09 is the taillight, other than that it's gorgeous.

As much as I love the Triumphs, I would take Yamaha reliability any day of the week...that's to say they don't bring back the old triples reliability.

Dano · July 1st, 2013, 08:37 AM

Nice looking bike, I am sure someone will offer a product to mount the plate higher thats just fugly!

Reswob · July 1st, 2013, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Michigan

Sooo, $1400 more for...?

(Sorry, I like to agitate.

)

Will definitely be shopping BOTH of these bikes whenever I decide to get my Ninjette a partner.

For a bike that isn't absolutely hideous. Actually, the difference is probably $0, because you can get a leftover/used '12 Street Triple. They ruined the '13 anyway

KawiKid860 · July 1st, 2013, 03:11 PM

You guys are arguing about horsepower, but what about torque? That's important too and my bet is on the yamaha. I really don't think it's that bad looking, the headlight isn't even bad. I only really like round headlights though and that would look off on one of these. Or the cool kind kawi does on the z1ks but that would be wrong on a yamaha IMO.

I heard this bike has a cross plane crank shaft like the R1s (which sound beautiful) so I wonder how it will sound compared to triumphs, which also sound beautiful, almost like an I6.

mheitman · July 2nd, 2013, 05:48 PM

I say it's sexy.. I'm excited about the innovation, and the expanding naked / street fighter market.

Jred · July 2nd, 2013, 05:52 PM

Gas tank size could be a problem...

gitoy · July 5th, 2013, 09:12 AM

one less gallon means six pounds less weight so yamaha get bragging rights for how light the bike is...

indr · July 7th, 2013, 09:04 AM

The more I look at the Street Triple, the more I like it as opposed to this.

JustRidin · July 7th, 2013, 01:57 PM

That is one sexy beast...I've had mixed feelings about nakeds but this one sure does it for me. My only concern with naked bikes is no wind protection if I want to take longer interstate trips. I'd say that would be a great next bike.

hirubhaiambani · July 7th, 2013, 02:09 PM

If Yamaha go the Kawi(N1K, Z1000) or Honda (CB500F, CB500N) way and make a FZ-09 naked and one with fairings, they might have more buyers

JustRidin · July 7th, 2013, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hirubhaiambani

If Yamaha go the Kawi(N1K, Z1000) or Honda (CB500F, CB500N) way and make a FZ-09 naked and one with fairings, they might have more buyers

That's true for the American market especially. We just love our fairings so much.

Toly · July 8th, 2013, 09:10 AM

I would pick the old school Triumph over Yamaha any day, just on design alone. The 2013 Triumph sucks big time.

But now, we have this...

dfox · July 8th, 2013, 09:54 AM

I think this bike has a spot in the market for sure. It's sorta hitting the people who want a street triple, but don't want to pay that much money, and don't want to have crazy maintenance bills, but also want something bigger than a 650.

For me, I don't know... I think next summer is when I'll "upsize", and this will likely be on the list to ride. I might end up with a bmw f800r though, I just love the look.

Whiskey · July 8th, 2013, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KawiKid860

You guys are arguing about horsepower, but what about torque? That's important too and my bet is on the yamaha. I really don't think it's that bad looking, the headlight isn't even bad. I only really like round headlights though and that would look off on one of these. Or the cool kind kawi does on the z1ks but that would be wrong on a yamaha IMO.

I heard this bike has a cross plane crank shaft like the R1s (which sound beautiful) so I wonder how it will sound compared to triumphs, which also sound beautiful, almost like an I6.

Round headlights, like on a street triple

Not a bad set of lamps on that

Toly · July 8th, 2013, 06:55 PM

Err... it's a Speed Triple

Chicagobob · July 9th, 2013, 07:53 AM

Only 414 lbs wet, beefy swing arm, adjustable suspension, Yamaha reliability . . . sounds good to me!

Also, it's nice to see some design restraint in the seat, tail section area for a change.

Yamaha was famously iconoclastic with its XS750 triples in the 70s, and they were good bikes.

Whiskey · July 9th, 2013, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toly

Err... it's a Speed Triple

If you noticed that then I've some bad news for you...

Thought the speed triple has the oblong 'bugeye' lights

Toly · July 9th, 2013, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whiskey

If you noticed that then I've some bad news for you...

Thought the speed triple has the oblong 'bugeye' lights

That's the older gen model in the original pic. Both the Speed and the Street got the bugeyes in 2012.

What's the bad news, btw? Round lights are back??

Reswob · July 9th, 2013, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toly

Err... it's a Speed Triple

Standard swingarm = Street3
Single sided ,= Speed3

oblivion007 · July 9th, 2013, 09:57 PM

yup

Jred · July 10th, 2013, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whiskey

If you noticed that then I've some bad news for you...

Thought the speed triple has the oblong 'bugeye' lights

The eyes man, the eyes...

c-dog · November 29th, 2013, 05:30 PM

So I was reading some recent comments about this bike. A bunch of guys are not happy that it's limited to 132 mph.

One guy has said in the comments of a few reviews that the Ninja 650 with 50 less hp has the same top speed. He's not very happy about that. Some have been getting the ECU reflashed to eliminate this. Just something interesting to note about the bike. I guess it will do 150ish without the limiter.

Most people usually don't have to go that fast anyway. I wonder if other bikes will start coming from the factory with limited top speeds in the future. I know the Busa and ZX14 already have top speed limiters due to the gentlemen's agreement.

tooblekain · November 29th, 2013, 05:43 PM

Original Street Triple with the round headlights FTW!!!

thisisbenji · November 29th, 2013, 06:02 PM

I don't know about the speed limiter issue. I would imagine it would get to that speed quicker than the Ninja 650. Personally, I'd imagine 132 would be pretty rough on the FZ09. I'v only got up to about 120 on a naked bike and I didn't like it at all. In my opinion if someones thinking about doing those kinds of speeds a naked isn't the way to go.

c-dog · November 29th, 2013, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thisisbenji

I don't know about the speed limiter issue. I would imagine it would get to that speed quicker than the Ninja 650. Personally, I'd imagine 132 would be pretty rough on the FZ09. I'v only got up to about 120 on a naked bike and I didn't like it at all. In my opinion if someones thinking about doing those kinds of speeds a naked isn't the way to go.

It definitely has to get there quicker. And I know which I'd rather be on!

Yeah it's kind of a crazy thing to be upset about as naked bikes are usually not taken up to such speeds. I think people are more upset about not having the potential (even if it won't be used).

The torque on the FZ09 will definitely make it entertaining. I was looking into one as a second bike for work/school commuting. It's a little more than I'd want to spend, but I'm investigating all possible options. Oh yeah!

NDspd · November 30th, 2013, 04:32 PM

I'm all for Triumph, I can't stand the looks of the Yami, but over time it will be interesting how they develop the look.

After having my '02 Speed Triple, I will be very hard pressed to leave Triumph. If I do get a newer Speed Triple, I will put the good'ol roundies on there.

mikromo · December 3rd, 2013, 07:44 AM

I rode my naked bike (kawi ZRX1200R) to Canada and back a few years ago,
and didn't find a lack of wind protection a problem at all. a properly set up naked bike will give you enough wind on your chest to take any weight off of your wrist's and really, it's pretty comfy for me. As for really high speeds, I tuck in as tight as I can (knees in, elbows in, chin on the tank, butt a little high, and one hand on the throttle, the other on the fork tube..... I've gone a GPS verified 155mph on the ZRX, no issues except running out of road. To me a big windshield takes away from the experience. Just sayin'.....

adouglas · December 14th, 2013, 06:33 PM

Saw and sat on the FZ-09 at the motorcycle show today.

Heck of a good deal. Nakeds aren't really my thing... too upright. But I can appreciate how nice this bike is. Yami has a winner here.

Sirref · December 14th, 2013, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Michigan

Sooo, $1400 more for...?

(Sorry, I like to agitate.

)

Will definitely be shopping BOTH of these bikes whenever I decide to get my Ninjette a partner.

fully adjustable suspension, comfort, styling.

June 30th, 2013, 05:08 PM	#1
indr ninjette.org guru Name: . Location: . Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: 331	FZ-09 Possibly my next if I have enough money by next year. 847cc triple nekkid. Anyone else looking forward to it? http://www.yamahamotorsports.com/spo...85/0/home.aspx

June 30th, 2013, 08:25 PM	#3
thisisbenji ninjette.org sage Name: Benji Location: Wadsworth, IL Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r (Sold), 2009 FZ6, 2015 Honda Grom Posts: 898	I'm very intrigued by this new one. If it gets good reviews maybe I'll pick up a used one five years from now! My FZ6 keeps me happy as it is though. __________________________________________________ My Old Bike My New Bike

June 30th, 2013, 08:38 PM	#5
thisisbenji ninjette.org sage Name: Benji Location: Wadsworth, IL Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r (Sold), 2009 FZ6, 2015 Honda Grom Posts: 898	You forgot to mention the triumph is an extra 2k and has less power. So unless your carving canyons everyday it might not be the way to go. We will have to wait for a comparison. __________________________________________________ My Old Bike My New Bike

June 30th, 2013, 10:01 PM	#8
Panda not an actual panda Name: dan Location: philadelphia Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250, 2009 CBR600RR (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Because they like triumph. For my money a triumph with an arrow can sounds like sex.
	1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.

July 1st, 2013, 07:00 AM	#12
Dark Simple kind of man Name: Ryan Location: Stuttgart, Germany Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 Posts: 133	The ONLY thing I don't like about the FZ-09 is the taillight, other than that it's gorgeous. As much as I love the Triumphs, I would take Yamaha reliability any day of the week...that's to say they don't bring back the old triples reliability. __________________________________________________

June 30th, 2013, 05:50 PM	#2
c-dog ninjette.org sage Name: - Location: - Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: 591	It's pretty interesting that Yamaha is moving into 3 cylinder engines on the new bikes. I wonder if the 4 cylinder is going to be kind of phased out in the future? I bet the 3 cylinder engine makes for a better street bike than a 4 cylinder - the 3 has more down low torque. I like the sound of 4 cylinders though. It will be interesting to see where the future of motorcycles goes before we're all driving those electric Zero bikes.

June 30th, 2013, 10:56 PM	#9
KawiKid860 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Murphey Location: Eastern Washington Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Honda 919, 2004 Ninja 500R NAKED Posts: A lot.	Found the triumph fanboy

July 1st, 2013, 12:09 AM	#10
Daks Jersey Devil Name: Daks Location: Austin, TX Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): '06 Ninja 250 Posts: 469	It's just so....ugly. Like damn you may have found those 80s-colored wheels leftover in a warehouse somewhere but it didn't mean you had to use them. There's just no beauty in it at all.

July 1st, 2013, 08:37 AM	#13
Dano ninjette.org sage Name: Dan Location: Perryopolis, PA Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09' Blue Ninja 250R and 07' Honda 919 Posts: 605	Nice looking bike, I am sure someone will offer a product to mount the plate higher thats just fugly!

July 1st, 2013, 03:11 PM	#15
KawiKid860 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Murphey Location: Eastern Washington Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Honda 919, 2004 Ninja 500R NAKED Posts: A lot.	You guys are arguing about horsepower, but what about torque? That's important too and my bet is on the yamaha. I really don't think it's that bad looking, the headlight isn't even bad. I only really like round headlights though and that would look off on one of these. Or the cool kind kawi does on the z1ks but that would be wrong on a yamaha IMO. I heard this bike has a cross plane crank shaft like the R1s (which sound beautiful) so I wonder how it will sound compared to triumphs, which also sound beautiful, almost like an I6.

July 2nd, 2013, 05:48 PM	#16
mheitman ninjette.org member Name: Max Location: Amish Country Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): '04 919 / '08 250r / '95 xr100 Posts: 39	I say it's sexy.. I'm excited about the innovation, and the expanding naked / street fighter market.

July 2nd, 2013, 05:52 PM	#17
Jred ninjette.org member Name: john Location: Houston Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): Several Posts: 61	Gas tank size could be a problem...

July 5th, 2013, 09:12 AM	#18
gitoy ninjette.org guru Name: gitoy Location: rpv, ca Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 04 ninja 250, 05 zzr 600 (sold), 07 cbr600rr Posts: 319	one less gallon means six pounds less weight so yamaha get bragging rights for how light the bike is...

July 7th, 2013, 09:04 AM	#19
indr ninjette.org guru Name: . Location: . Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: 331	The more I look at the Street Triple, the more I like it as opposed to this.

July 7th, 2013, 01:57 PM	#20
JustRidin ninjette.org member Name: Nick Location: Denver, CO Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2007 R6, 2015 KTM 250XC - Past: 2011 KTM 150XC, 2009 Ninja 250r, 2012 Ninja 650, 2007 CRF250R Posts: 194	That is one sexy beast...I've had mixed feelings about nakeds but this one sure does it for me. My only concern with naked bikes is no wind protection if I want to take longer interstate trips. I'd say that would be a great next bike. __________________________________________________ Try it, you might like it.

July 7th, 2013, 02:09 PM	#21
hirubhaiambani Ninjette Fanboy Name: HB Location: Missouri Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja250 Posts: 307	If Yamaha go the Kawi(N1K, Z1000) or Honda (CB500F, CB500N) way and make a FZ-09 naked and one with fairings, they might have more buyers

July 8th, 2013, 09:54 AM	#24
dfox ninjette.org sage Name: Fox Location: Boston Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): 08 250R Posts: 881	I think this bike has a spot in the market for sure. It's sorta hitting the people who want a street triple, but don't want to pay that much money, and don't want to have crazy maintenance bills, but also want something bigger than a 650. For me, I don't know... I think next summer is when I'll "upsize", and this will likely be on the list to ride. I might end up with a bmw f800r though, I just love the look.

July 8th, 2013, 06:55 PM	#26
Toly ninjette.org guru Name: Toly Location: NY Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): KTM 390 Duke Posts: 428	Err... it's a Speed Triple

July 9th, 2013, 07:53 AM	#27
Chicagobob ninjette.org guru Name: Bob Location: Chicago Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): '06 Ninja 250, 2018 Honda GL1800B Posts: 315	Only 414 lbs wet, beefy swing arm, adjustable suspension, Yamaha reliability . . . sounds good to me! Also, it's nice to see some design restraint in the seat, tail section area for a change. Yamaha was famously iconoclastic with its XS750 triples in the 70s, and they were good bikes. Last futzed with by Chicagobob; July 9th, 2013 at 12:14 PM.

July 9th, 2013, 09:57 PM	#31
oblivion007 "scandal!" Name: Adan Location: Somewhere Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 250R(Crashed 2/26/2014), 09 ER6n Posts: 660	yup

November 29th, 2013, 05:30 PM	#33
c-dog ninjette.org sage Name: - Location: - Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: 591	So I was reading some recent comments about this bike. A bunch of guys are not happy that it's limited to 132 mph. One guy has said in the comments of a few reviews that the Ninja 650 with 50 less hp has the same top speed. He's not very happy about that. Some have been getting the ECU reflashed to eliminate this. Just something interesting to note about the bike. I guess it will do 150ish without the limiter. Most people usually don't have to go that fast anyway. I wonder if other bikes will start coming from the factory with limited top speeds in the future. I know the Busa and ZX14 already have top speed limiters due to the gentlemen's agreement.

November 29th, 2013, 05:43 PM	#34
tooblekain ninjette.org sage Name: Matt Location: San Diego, CA Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Triumph Bonneville; 2008 Ninja 250r (trackbike) Posts: 748	Original Street Triple with the round headlights FTW!!! __________________________________________________ CVMA #312SoCal TrackdaysBigHeadz RacingMotion ProFactory EffexLeatt Brace* Racetech Bell Woodcraft CFMVortexHotbodiesSurface Sun SystemsBrakingLiveWire EnergyFreegun Underwear

November 29th, 2013, 06:02 PM	#35
thisisbenji ninjette.org sage Name: Benji Location: Wadsworth, IL Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r (Sold), 2009 FZ6, 2015 Honda Grom Posts: 898	I don't know about the speed limiter issue. I would imagine it would get to that speed quicker than the Ninja 650. Personally, I'd imagine 132 would be pretty rough on the FZ09. I'v only got up to about 120 on a naked bike and I didn't like it at all. In my opinion if someones thinking about doing those kinds of speeds a naked isn't the way to go. __________________________________________________ My Old Bike My New Bike

November 30th, 2013, 04:32 PM	#37
NDspd 1/4 English, 3/4 Kick Ass Name: Jeremy Location: Dayton, OH Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Triumph Speed Triple 955i, '05 Suzuki SV650S(retired), '11 Ninja 250R(sold) Posts: A lot.	I'm all for Triumph, I can't stand the looks of the Yami, but over time it will be interesting how they develop the look. After having my '02 Speed Triple, I will be very hard pressed to leave Triumph. If I do get a newer Speed Triple, I will put the good'ol roundies on there.

December 3rd, 2013, 07:44 AM	#38
mikromo ninjette.org member Name: Mike Location: Independence, MO Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): 1970 Moto Guzzi Ambassador, 1999 Honda VFR800, 2001 Kawasaki ZRX1200R, 2010 Kawasaki ninja 250 (sold) Posts: 59	I rode my naked bike (kawi ZRX1200R) to Canada and back a few years ago, and didn't find a lack of wind protection a problem at all. a properly set up naked bike will give you enough wind on your chest to take any weight off of your wrist's and really, it's pretty comfy for me. As for really high speeds, I tuck in as tight as I can (knees in, elbows in, chin on the tank, butt a little high, and one hand on the throttle, the other on the fork tube..... I've gone a GPS verified 155mph on the ZRX, no issues except running out of road. To me a big windshield takes away from the experience. Just sayin'.....

December 14th, 2013, 06:33 PM	#39
adouglas Cat herder Name: Gort Location: A secret lair which, being secret, has an undisclosed location Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia RS660 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 6 MOTM - Jul '18, Nov '16, Aug '14, May '13	Saw and sat on the FZ-09 at the motorcycle show today. Heck of a good deal. Nakeds aren't really my thing... too upright. But I can appreciate how nice this bike is. Yami has a winner here. __________________________________________________ I am NOT an adrenaline junkie, I'm a skill junkie. - csmith12 Nam et ipsa scientia potestas est. Heri historia. Cras mysterium. Hodie donum est. Carpe diem.