How many racers have cut off the 2008+ kickstand mount?

samw · January 22nd, 2012, 07:16 AM

I'm reading that some racers have done this for clearance. I use a lot of lean angle at the track, but I hate to cut off the mount because i'm always considering when I sell the bike, the buyer may want to put the bike back on the street.
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csmith12 · January 22nd, 2012, 10:00 AM

I have not, but there are a few racers here who have cut every uneeded tab/mount off their bikes in the name of weight savings.

jasle · January 22nd, 2012, 11:23 AM

I cut mine off...it does hang down a bit. in a good place to lighten the back. last place I wanna take load off the rear wheel is in a corner.

figure if/when i sell it, it will go to a racer. no way i'm going to put all the street crap back on.

randy328 · January 22nd, 2012, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jasle

figure if/when i sell it, it will go to a racer. no way i'm going to put all the street crap back on.

Same here. Kickstand mount is gone on mine as well.

I don't even have most of the street stuff anymore.

pjed · January 22nd, 2012, 11:59 AM

Got the same concern on the mount touching down at the track. Think I am going to grind it off but it shouldn't be too tough to weld back on if I want.

Kangxi · January 22nd, 2012, 05:44 PM

I have not yet removed the kickstand and mount but will as soon as I understand how to to it properly. Just searched the forum and online for a how-to but came up empty. Could anyone w/experience doing this please post create a new thread or wiki for how to disable the killswitch in the kickstand and a good way to cut off the mount? If here is already a good writeup out there that I missed a link in this thread would be helpful.

thanks
Kangxi

racegunnr · January 22nd, 2012, 06:08 PM

i hacked ours off as per the rules(CRA) and smoothed with a grinder....along with alot of other tabs. as far as the switch goes, just made a little jumper wire where the switch plugged into and done!

samw · January 22nd, 2012, 06:12 PM

Unless someone has a better idea I plan to disable the kickstand switch by cutting and soldering together the two switch wires just before the wiring harness, meaning leave the stock wiring harness connector intact. I plan to use a dremel to cut the mount.
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racegunnr · January 22nd, 2012, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by samw

I plan to use a dremel to cut the mount.
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sure you cant get your hands on anything a little bigger???

samw · January 22nd, 2012, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by racegunnr

sure you cant get your hands on anything a little bigger???

I haven't really looked at the mount that closely. Would a hacksaw be a better choice?
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Kangxi · January 22nd, 2012, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by racegunnr

sure you cant get your hands on anything a little bigger???

Racegunnr what did you use to cut off the mount? an angle grinder?

racegunnr · January 22nd, 2012, 06:27 PM

air cut off tool....basically a die grinder with a cutoff wheel on it..
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....re&dir=catalog

Kangxi · January 22nd, 2012, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by racegunnr

air cut off tool....basically a die grinder with a cutoff wheel on it..
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....re&dir=catalog

bloody hell, that's fancy! nice to have one those about I'm sure!

that thing revs higher (22k) than my R6!

pjed · January 22nd, 2012, 06:48 PM

Just get a cheap angle grinder...I'm sure one from Harbor Freight would work fine. I'm gonna use one to remove my bracket.

sowega · January 22nd, 2012, 08:26 PM

Your bike will be worth a lot less to a potential buyer if you drag that kickstand mount and shitwreck it.

Kangxi · January 22nd, 2012, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sowega

Your bike will be worth a lot less to a potential buyer if you drag that kickstand mount and shitwreck it.

akima · January 23rd, 2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sowega

Your bike will be worth a lot less to a potential buyer if you drag that kickstand mount and shitwreck it.

Good point!

(I'm not race-prepping my bike btw... just curious about this stuff.)

Nemesis · January 23rd, 2012, 12:27 PM

I highly recommend removing/grinding/cutting the kickstand mount off especially if the track you ride on has corner elevation changes. Last thing you want is for mount to pivot into the track and cause you to crash which has happened to a few racers I know.

samw · January 23rd, 2012, 07:29 PM

Thanks for the feedback, I will chop it off!

cynicalkit · January 23rd, 2012, 08:15 PM

After turn 3 at big willow, i cut off that kickstand!

sowega · January 23rd, 2012, 09:22 PM

Chop it off, and - if only for some peace of mind - click that preload all the way up. This bike needs every mm of ride height it can get!

akima · January 24th, 2012, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sowega

click that preload all the way up. This bike needs every mm of ride height it can get!

So you raise the bike higher off the ground? Is that so that you can lean further?

JS73 · January 24th, 2012, 11:46 AM

I used a drill with a cut-off wheel attachement from Home Depot. Pretty cheap solution also.

Jiggyfly · January 24th, 2012, 12:57 PM

Cut it.... It's gotta go. You'll def want something more than a dremel!!!! That mount is fairly stout.

Kangxi · January 24th, 2012, 10:34 PM

Embarrassed to say that I can't even get the kickstand leg off of the mount! The 17mm bolt holding it on is on steroids - anyone else have problems getting this bolt off without help from a friend to help hold the retaining nut on the other side? Suggestions?

ROADandTRACK · January 25th, 2012, 12:13 AM

Hacksaw works fine and save the piece to weld back on if needed. Simple.

samw · January 25th, 2012, 05:28 AM

I've always been told to heat up the bolt(s) a little. I'll be removing it this weekend too - let me know how it goes.

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Originally Posted by Kangxi

Embarrassed to say that I can't even get the kickstand leg off of the mount! The 17mm bolt holding it on is on steroids - anyone else have problems getting this bolt off without help from a friend to help hold the retaining nut on the other side? Suggestions?

gt_turbo · January 26th, 2012, 08:00 AM

I'd like to cut my mount bracket off for track days, but my 250 is also used mostly for street use at the moment. an easy to remove kickstand would be awesome, if there was one...

Kangxi · January 26th, 2012, 08:39 AM

Could someone please post a close up picture of exactly where you cut off the mount?
Also, if someone has more detailed info on how to deal with the electrical running from the kickstand to the starter that would be great. - tks,

sowega · January 26th, 2012, 10:11 AM

Kangxi · January 26th, 2012, 10:37 AM

Perfect! Thanks for posting up, Ed!

gt_turbo · January 26th, 2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kangxi

Could someone please post a close up picture of exactly where you cut off the mount?
Also, if someone has more detailed info on how to deal with the electrical running from the kickstand to the starter that would be great. - tks,

for the wires, all you need to do is make the 2 wires contact each other. cut them off, splice them together, throw some solder on there, and heat shrink it or electrical tape. you could also use a jumper or some electrical splicing connector. but make sure whatever you choose, it is secure. if those wires come apart when you're on the track, your engine's turning off!

Kangxi · January 27th, 2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by gt_turbo

for the wires, all you need to do is make the 2 wires contact each other. cut them off, splice them together, throw some solder on there, and heat shrink it or electrical tape. you could also use a jumper or some electrical splicing connector. but make sure whatever you choose, it is secure. if those wires come apart when you're on the track, your engine's turning off!

Perfecto, thanks Turbo that's exactly what I needed to know.

675Raisinator · March 30th, 2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sowega

question: why didnt you cut off that other tab below the kickstand mount that sticks out like a limp dick ? seems like its pretty useless part too ?

pjed · March 30th, 2012, 04:36 PM

The belly pan bolts up to it.

CZroe · March 30th, 2012, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 675Raisinator

question: why didnt you cut off that other tab below the kickstand mount that sticks out like a limp dick ? seems like its pretty useless part too ?

1) It doesn't stick out to the side to reduce lean angle and endanger the rider
2) Race rules require a lower fairing that can hold two quarts of oil

Zyconic17 · March 30th, 2012, 06:21 PM

I cut mine off too. I heard too many stories about the 250s crashing on track that i decided it had to go. However, i am having a problem with the newly exposed bare metal rusting. Has anyone else had this? it looks from peoples pics that they painted/coated it with something... i may need to do that.

pjed · March 30th, 2012, 06:28 PM

I painted mine before it had a chance to rust.

dustoff · March 31st, 2012, 12:32 PM

I havent cut the tab off yet, I find the pegs and shift lever are scraping still, after i get rearsets I will probably cut it off.

675Raisinator · April 2nd, 2012, 06:05 AM

Just cut mine with a sawz all ... covered the exposed metal with JB Weld and then spray painted over

January 22nd, 2012, 07:16 AM	#1
samw ninjette.org member Name: Sam Location: Ohio Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2005 HON CBR1000RR Repsol, 2012 KAW Ninja 250R Posts: 131	How many racers have cut off the 2008+ kickstand mount? I'm reading that some racers have done this for clearance. I use a lot of lean angle at the track, but I hate to cut off the mount because i'm always considering when I sell the bike, the buyer may want to put the bike back on the street. Posted via Mobile Device

January 22nd, 2012, 10:00 AM	#2
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	I have not, but there are a few racers here who have cut every uneeded tab/mount off their bikes in the name of weight savings. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

January 22nd, 2012, 11:23 AM	#3
jasle ninjette.org member Name: Jason Location: Austin TX Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09Ninja250, Ducati Monster 800ie, Harley FXSTS,Rebel 250,CR144,KX85,RM85L Posts: 142	I cut mine off...it does hang down a bit. in a good place to lighten the back. last place I wanna take load off the rear wheel is in a corner. figure if/when i sell it, it will go to a racer. no way i'm going to put all the street crap back on. __________________________________________________ Thanks to: , DUNLOP, WHOOPIE RACING, 995 PAINTWORKS, South Austin Motorcycles

January 23rd, 2012, 12:27 PM	#18
Nemesis CVMA #74 WSMC #750 Name: Nemesis Location: On the track Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): All of them Posts: A lot.	I highly recommend removing/grinding/cutting the kickstand mount off especially if the track you ride on has corner elevation changes. Last thing you want is for mount to pivot into the track and cause you to crash which has happened to a few racers I know. __________________________________________________

January 24th, 2012, 11:46 AM	#23
JS73 ninjette.org guru Name: Joel Location: Orlando, FL Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250 Posts: 256	I used a drill with a cut-off wheel attachement from Home Depot. Pretty cheap solution also. __________________________________________________ WERA #273 Novice Boogeyman Racing.

January 22nd, 2012, 11:59 AM	#5
pjed ninjette.org guru Name: Paul Location: Midwest Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100, 2006 Yamaha R1, 2006 Kawasaki ZZR600, 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R, 2017 Kawasaki Z900 Posts: 320	Got the same concern on the mount touching down at the track. Think I am going to grind it off but it shouldn't be too tough to weld back on if I want.

January 22nd, 2012, 05:44 PM	#6
Kangxi OMRRA 701 Name: . Location: PDX Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 'jette, R6 Posts: 96	I have not yet removed the kickstand and mount but will as soon as I understand how to to it properly. Just searched the forum and online for a how-to but came up empty. Could anyone w/experience doing this please post create a new thread or wiki for how to disable the killswitch in the kickstand and a good way to cut off the mount? If here is already a good writeup out there that I missed a link in this thread would be helpful. thanks Kangxi

January 22nd, 2012, 06:12 PM	#8
samw ninjette.org member Name: Sam Location: Ohio Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2005 HON CBR1000RR Repsol, 2012 KAW Ninja 250R Posts: 131	Unless someone has a better idea I plan to disable the kickstand switch by cutting and soldering together the two switch wires just before the wiring harness, meaning leave the stock wiring harness connector intact. I plan to use a dremel to cut the mount. Posted via Mobile Device

January 22nd, 2012, 06:27 PM	#12
racegunnr ninjette.org member Name: shane Location: south dakota Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 250r race bike, 06 R6 race bike, 06 YZ450f Tard Posts: 122	air cut off tool....basically a die grinder with a cutoff wheel on it.. http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....re&dir=catalog

January 22nd, 2012, 06:48 PM	#14
pjed ninjette.org guru Name: Paul Location: Midwest Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100, 2006 Yamaha R1, 2006 Kawasaki ZZR600, 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R, 2017 Kawasaki Z900 Posts: 320	Just get a cheap angle grinder...I'm sure one from Harbor Freight would work fine. I'm gonna use one to remove my bracket.

January 22nd, 2012, 08:26 PM	#15
sowega ninjette.org guru Name: Ed Location: Atlanta, GA Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 899, 748, 250, 250, 70 Posts: 348	Your bike will be worth a lot less to a potential buyer if you drag that kickstand mount and shitwreck it.

January 23rd, 2012, 07:29 PM	#19
samw ninjette.org member Name: Sam Location: Ohio Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2005 HON CBR1000RR Repsol, 2012 KAW Ninja 250R Posts: 131	Thanks for the feedback, I will chop it off!

January 23rd, 2012, 08:15 PM	#20
cynicalkit la pussy gata Name: kit Location: xx Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): big wheel Posts: 540	After turn 3 at big willow, i cut off that kickstand!

January 23rd, 2012, 09:22 PM	#21
sowega ninjette.org guru Name: Ed Location: Atlanta, GA Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 899, 748, 250, 250, 70 Posts: 348	Chop it off, and - if only for some peace of mind - click that preload all the way up. This bike needs every mm of ride height it can get!

January 24th, 2012, 12:57 PM	#24
Jiggyfly ninjette.org member Name: Shon Location: Columbia, sc Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki ninja 250 Posts: 132	Cut it.... It's gotta go. You'll def want something more than a dremel!!!! That mount is fairly stout.

January 24th, 2012, 10:34 PM	#25
Kangxi OMRRA 701 Name: . Location: PDX Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 'jette, R6 Posts: 96	Embarrassed to say that I can't even get the kickstand leg off of the mount! The 17mm bolt holding it on is on steroids - anyone else have problems getting this bolt off without help from a friend to help hold the retaining nut on the other side? Suggestions?

January 25th, 2012, 12:13 AM	#26
ROADandTRACK R&T Suspension Name: K Hertell Location: San Antonio, TEXAS Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): Too many to list Posts: 175	Hacksaw works fine and save the piece to weld back on if needed. Simple.

January 26th, 2012, 08:00 AM	#28
gt_turbo ninjette.org sage Name: L Location: WI Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 250R, '13 CBR500R Posts: 709	I'd like to cut my mount bracket off for track days, but my 250 is also used mostly for street use at the moment. an easy to remove kickstand would be awesome, if there was one...

January 26th, 2012, 08:39 AM	#29
Kangxi OMRRA 701 Name: . Location: PDX Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 'jette, R6 Posts: 96	Could someone please post a close up picture of exactly where you cut off the mount? Also, if someone has more detailed info on how to deal with the electrical running from the kickstand to the starter that would be great. - tks,

January 26th, 2012, 10:11 AM	#30
sowega ninjette.org guru Name: Ed Location: Atlanta, GA Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 899, 748, 250, 250, 70 Posts: 348	__________________________________________________ Eberhart Creative

January 26th, 2012, 10:37 AM	#31
Kangxi OMRRA 701 Name: . Location: PDX Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 'jette, R6 Posts: 96	Perfect! Thanks for posting up, Ed!

March 30th, 2012, 04:36 PM	#35
pjed ninjette.org guru Name: Paul Location: Midwest Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100, 2006 Yamaha R1, 2006 Kawasaki ZZR600, 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R, 2017 Kawasaki Z900 Posts: 320	The belly pan bolts up to it.

March 30th, 2012, 06:21 PM	#37
Zyconic17 ninjette.org member Name: David Location: Arvada Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250r Track bike, Honda CRF250r Dirt bike Posts: 137	I cut mine off too. I heard too many stories about the 250s crashing on track that i decided it had to go. However, i am having a problem with the newly exposed bare metal rusting. Has anyone else had this? it looks from peoples pics that they painted/coated it with something... i may need to do that.

March 30th, 2012, 06:28 PM	#38
pjed ninjette.org guru Name: Paul Location: Midwest Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100, 2006 Yamaha R1, 2006 Kawasaki ZZR600, 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R, 2017 Kawasaki Z900 Posts: 320	I painted mine before it had a chance to rust.

March 31st, 2012, 12:32 PM	#39
dustoff covered in awesome sauce Name: Jim Location: Lower Alabama Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250r racebike, 09 Triumph Street Triple R Posts: 31	I havent cut the tab off yet, I find the pegs and shift lever are scraping still, after i get rearsets I will probably cut it off.

April 2nd, 2012, 06:05 AM	#40
675Raisinator ninjette.org member Name: Zander the Expander Location: Houston, Texas Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Kawasaki 250 (Track scooter) 2012 Triumph Daytona 675 Posts: 153	Just cut mine with a sawz all ... covered the exposed metal with JB Weld and then spray painted over

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