House Fire Follow up

[DarkNinja52]

So I previously mentioned that my house burned down and I lost the ninja in the process.. I have some pics.. I'm trying to sue the landlord.. turns out his ex wife owns the house and didnt know he was renting it.. I checked with the town.. they have no records on the house so I dont know if that helps or hurts.. I lost over 10k in property damage.. no one was hurt... pics!

Some pics of the bike as well.. shes still standing on the t-rex stands i bought about a month ago. over the winter I installed a zg db windscreen, proton turn signals and bike monkey integrated tail light. the day before the fire i just finished the bike monkey, took all the fairings off, spent hours wiping them all down from dust and dirt, polished the chrome exhaust, and reassembled everything. I was going to be in PA for the weekend so I didn't want to take her out until I got back and had the time to ride. I left to visit my father in PA with the bike sitting in the porch... that was the last I saw of it.
Please watch the video, you can tell I really loved this bike.

Last I ever saw.. spotless

Link to original page on YouTube.

[Apex]

Makes me sad.

As long as nobody was hurt, then all is well.

[jcgirl]

Wow, I don't even know what to say. Thank god you weren't in bed sleeping. I hope you managed to get some form of restitution. Let us know if there is anything we can do.

[Snake]

Sorry to hear about that. This is terible. Glad you are ok.

[JokerSeven]

wow those pics make my skin crawl

Thats just damn crazy !

[Alex]

Youch!

[adri99an]

Yowzzers....glad YOU are okay.....

[noche_caliente]

AJ - it was bad before you posted pics, but I am in tears after seeing it. Thank God you weren't in the house when it happened! I am so sorry.

[ninjabrewer]

ooof,

[OldGuy]

That hurts just looking at the pictures. Glad you are OK and no one was hurt.

[ninja250]

Originally Posted by ninjabrewer

ooof,

+1
Sorry to see it dude.

[kevlarorc]

baah. That'll buff out.



I hope you are able to get some kind of compensation from the landlord though it seems like a really hairy situation.

[miks]

Very tough break man, good luck with everything.

[inbox526]

Those are some SAD ninja pictures.. It's almost like even though you didn't get caught in your sleep, the poor ninjette did

G'luck with the legal situation. Glad you're ok.

[bdavison]

Is it just me or is it shocking to anyone else that the wheels were completely gone, but the tank survived?

[curlyredhead]

Glad you are okay! Crazy people always manage to involve the innocent.

[clegg]

Wow the pics are amazing. THat fire was so hot it melted every bit of aluminum from that bike (sans the engine which was probably just a bit too much Al mass to completely melt. But the rims, top of the tripple tree, and anything else that was alloy on the bike is gone.

Sorry for your sad events, but the pics just intrigued me.

[BlueRaven]

Here we have renters insurance. If the tenants don't have this insurance and there's a fire it's their loss not the responsibility of the building or house owner. The owners only insure the building not the contents. I sure hope it's different where you live and you do get some compensation.

[DarkNinja52]

It was a very messy situation, none of us had renters insurance, there was no real lease, the landlord didn't own the house and only collected in cash, he had done a lot of illegal electrical and structural work on the house without permits from the town, he has not returned the security deposit, his wife owns the house, the fire report states it was a outlet malfunction due to a downed power line during the storm and worst of all, i didnt insure the bike during the winter. I can't believe he didn't own the house and is going to get away with this.. I was unaware you can collect rent from people living in a house you don't own and not be responsible when something like this happens

ps. he owns a nice mercedes truck and i know where he lives...

[draco413]

man that horrible.......feel for u man...hope everything works out for u

[Cedilla]

Awesome street fighter bro!






























Dude that sucks hardcore. I could never even imagine something like that happening to me.

[bdavison]

I think you need to go get yourself a lawyer...and asap.

[tjkamper]

I'm sorry that this happened.

[dowmace]

Originally Posted by DarkNinja52

I was unaware you can collect rent from people living in a house you don't own and not be responsible when something like this happens

ps. he owns a nice mercedes truck and i know where he lives...

As far as I know you cannot do that, or atleast not here in Oklahoma. A guy pulled that on my sister in law and he is now in Tulsa Country prison for 15-20. If you don't own the property you cannot collect rent on it as you have no legal claim to it. I would talk to a lawyer they will know your state and city laws. I have a feeling you could sue him for a fair sum of money. Now actually collecting the cash could be a different story.

[250rStar]

dude thats hella weak!! i only have a couple things to say about that tho
1. if your ok thats what matters bikes replacable!
2. on sacramento craigslist someones sellin 2010 special edition green plastics for 800(haha)
3. at least we all know what kind of stands to buy know!!

Thought i would try to make you laugh and see the silver lining in things everything will work out tho man don't worry to much about it.

[DarkNinja52]

thanks guy, and thanks 250rstar, ill slap some new plastics on this bad boy and be ready to go lmaoo

I'm definitely looking into getting a lawyer, but i doubt this guy would be able to cough up any money anyway, so i'd end up paying a lawyer a load of money and never collect anything.. im not sure if its worth it but im still figuring things out.. in addition to class and work ):

i can't believe this happened just as it started getting warm again..

[Grn99Kawi]

holy chit AJ... SO SORRY to see this.. as was said before.. thank goodness you are okay... the bike can be replaced.. but I know it still hurts and sucks... damn... Im so sorry to read this post..

[KJohnson21]

I'm glad you're OK. Sounds like you'll have to sue the prick as he was totally misrepresenting himself. Find a good lawyer.

[ironglory]

AJ, hope things will turn out for the better. Just glad that you werent hurt. Hope you find a good lawyer. This situation really calls for a law suit.



As per legal help, look for Pro Bono Lawyers. e.g. http://www.abanet.org/legalservices/...r_lawyers.html

Good luck.

[Haider87]

:O

cheez im speechless. Glad you're ok, ultimately that's all that matters.

[DarkNinja52]

Thanks everyone

Originally Posted by ironglory

AJ, hope things will turn out for the better. Just glad that you werent hurt. Hope you find a good lawyer. This situation really calls for a law suit.



As per legal help, look for Pro Bono Lawyers. e.g. http://www.abanet.org/legalservices/...r_lawyers.html

Good luck.

Thanks for the link ironglory.

also another update. he is now claiming that the insurance company is questioning the fact that there was gas powered vehicle inside the house, the motorcycle.
So he's trying to see if he can drag me down with him when 1. the fire report clearly states that it was electrical and 2. he refused to let me put the bike in the external garage, and told me to use the porch...

He owes around 3000 for the security deposit, and as far as im concerned if he didnt own the house, our rent should be reimbursed as well. and if we can prove he was liable for the fire, (faulty wiring/shady contractors,electricians) he should be liable for everything else as well...

[dowmace]

Originally Posted by DarkNinja52

Thanks everyone





He owes around 3000 for the security deposit, and as far as im concerned if he didnt own the house, our rent should be reimbursed as well. and if we can prove he was liable for the fire, (faulty wiring/shady contractors,electricians) he should be liable for everything else as well...

He does by law owe you the money back for rent I believe but you'll need receipts to prove you paid it to him, as well as a receipt for your security deposit.

[cnichols79us]

[revstriker]

Originally Posted by DarkNinja52

Thanks everyone



Thanks for the link ironglory.

also another update. he is now claiming that the insurance company is questioning the fact that there was gas powered vehicle inside the house, the motorcycle.
So he's trying to see if he can drag me down with him when 1. the fire report clearly states that it was electrical and 2. he refused to let me put the bike in the external garage, and told me to use the porch...

He owes around 3000 for the security deposit, and as far as im concerned if he didnt own the house, our rent should be reimbursed as well. and if we can prove he was liable for the fire, (faulty wiring/shady contractors,electricians) he should be liable for everything else as well...

Wow. I'm sorry to hear about this. But glad that no one got hurt.

When I first saw your video, that's the first thing that went into my mind. I've always been told that a gasoline in an enclosed living area is a no no. Especially something like a MC where the gas tank vents the fumes. Even if it doesn't start the fire, it can certainly make it worse (not suggesting that this is what happened in your case).

I would get a lawyer involved right away if you haven't already. Good luck.

[DRivero]

Coming in a bit late here....wow, those pics really gave me the willies...

I feel awful for you. It is absolutely devastating. A few years ago, my sister was living in a house that burned down. They were not home, thank God, when it started. They arrived home from dinner to find the house almost completely engulfed. My brother in law tried to go inside to save their animals and couldn't get in the door. When I got there, the house was still burning and my sister was a screaming disaster. Every single thing they owned either burned up in the fire or was smoke and water damaged. They lost everything, including their dog and two cats, and had to start over in a new place with nothing but the clothes they'd been wearing the night of the fire, their cars, and the contents of her purse. I am so sorry this happened to you.

By the way, have you contacted the Red Cross? They were a HUGE help with my sister, and if I remember correctly they actually arrived, of their own accord, shortly after the fire trucks got there. They got them new beds within a week, and gave them vouchers for food and clothing as well.
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[CZroe]

I just want to point out that the assumption that you can only rent property you own is wrong. There are rules for subletting, but it is common. There may be rules that require him to have insurance. Look it up.

[Rayme]

Originally Posted by CZroe

I just want to point out that the assumption that you can only rent property you own is wrong. There are rules for subletting, but it is common. There may be rules that require him to have insurance. Look it up.

He might have insurance to cover the building but not the belongings inside..thus why there is rentee's insurance...which is a really cheap thing. Also, house insurance does not cover gas powered vehicles, if a car/motorcycle is burnt down by a fire started in your house, they are not covered by the home insurance, that's how it works here as I asked this question specifically. I'm really sorry for you but having insurance would have been your responsability, good luck suing.

[DarkNinja52]

Yea, I definitely should have had rent insurance. As for insurance on the bike, I wouldn't have been paying for coverage during the winter anyway..

I want to try to prove the fire was his fault and that his insurance should cover the damage. Town Hall has no records or permits on the house for one reason or another. The house obviously has had a lot of work done on it and poor electrical wiring from an unlicensed contractor may very well be the cause of the electrical fire. The town keeps records of any work done on any house and requires permits for most construction. Hard to prove it though considering the lack of evidence (house).

[Dano]

Dude sorry about your loss of the bike and personal stuff but for a very little outlay in cash you could be riding a new bike now. Personally I would sue the guy and his ex wife. Since she actually owns the house she can be held liable for the fire and everything in the house maybe. The actual owner of the house can be fined she is responsible for knowing what is going on with the house. Renters insurance is dirt cheap and as for not insuring the bike in the winter that is a big mistake especially on a newer bike, sounds like the excuse of young kids buying 10K sportbikes and only having liability, what happens when they total the bike, they are out 10k and are stuck paying a loan for years on a bike they no longer have. I hope you get a new one eventually and this time keep full coverage all year round.

[FrugalNinja250]

Originally Posted by Dano

...only having liability, what happens when they total the bike, they are out 10k and are stuck paying a loan for years on a bike they no longer have.

Loan contracts always require that the borrower maintain full coverage insurance on the bike or vehicle specifically to avoid this. If the borrower fails to do that and the bike is totaled then the bank will call the note and the full balance will be due immediately. Then the lawyers get involved and it gets real ugly.