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Always my left foot | 21 | 21.21% | |
Always my right foot | 6 | 6.06% | |
Depends on the situation, but usually left | 51 | 51.52% | |
Depends on the situation, but usually right | 11 | 11.11% | |
I put both feet down! | 14 | 14.14% | |
I can trackstand. Both feet on pegs while trackstanding | 3 | 3.03% | |
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April 22nd, 2014, 07:53 PM | #41 |
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I always put the right one down for pretty much what moto has said, and i also like to let my hand take a break from the clutch lever when possible.
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April 22nd, 2014, 07:55 PM | #42 |
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Depends on the stop reason and time. If I have some reason to stand on the rear brake (e.g. stop on an incline) then I put the left down, if I'm 'covered' and in neutral I put the right down so I can shift into first more quickly. If I'm stopped for more than 5 or so seconds both feet go down usually (and if on an incline I use the front brake)
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April 22nd, 2014, 08:08 PM | #43 |
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Point the bike in the direction of the closest-to-you crossing traffic (~45 degrees to the right or left (one-way right to left crossing traffic), so you can bank and try merging into that traffic.
That is a difficult but useful exercise: starting turning sharp from a total stop. This is difficult because the centrifugal effect of the acceleration tends to throw you off out of the turn (in essence, that is equivalent to counter-steering) while you need leaning toward the center of the turn. Flashing the brake light always help catch the attention of the approaching rider; however, red-runners crossing the intersection that you cannot see (big truck blocking your view) are your major actual danger.
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April 22nd, 2014, 09:19 PM | #44 |
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Right foot on the brake.
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April 22nd, 2014, 10:04 PM | #45 | ||
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April 22nd, 2014, 11:54 PM | #46 |
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^ makes perfect sense.
I remember seeing this video some time ago and getting some good visual tips from it: |
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April 23rd, 2014, 02:41 AM | #47 |
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I'm going to try that! That's one thing I'm kinda BAD at. An over wide turned out into a lane from a parking lot or side street.
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April 23rd, 2014, 04:00 AM | #48 |
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Left . Right is on the break and I have already shifted to first.
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April 23rd, 2014, 07:20 AM | #49 | |
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Left first, then both down once I'm stopped, then right while I put it in neutral to pick my nose and adjust stuff, both then lean to one side or the other while contemplating why the red light is so long, then the quick shuffle into first and feet up. I'm sure it's quite a show for those around Me. |
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April 23rd, 2014, 07:30 AM | #50 |
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Your brake light doesn't work with both brakes?
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April 23rd, 2014, 07:39 AM | #51 |
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I would be it does, but I sometimes use my foot to flash the brake lights when my hand needs a rest. I feel where he is coming from.
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April 23rd, 2014, 12:07 PM | #53 |
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U guys that trackstand, do u do it seated or standing on pegs?
On my mountain and road bikes, I can only do it standing (if it has to be longer than 30 seconds) . However, for my track bike (fixed gear transmission) I can do it seated and stay in that position for a few minutes. The secret is to turn the front wheel up towards the crown of the road (usually left for us in the US). I'll try it soon with the ninjette since the fairings are currently off |
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April 23rd, 2014, 12:17 PM | #54 |
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I'm a munchkin, so if it's a short stop, I'll track stand. If it's a prolonged stop, most of the time it's a butt scoot to the left (right on the brake), and left foot down. The exception being when the surface is dipped on the left, then I'll scoot to the right.
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April 23rd, 2014, 12:32 PM | #55 |
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Hmm, must practice this trackstand stuff.....
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April 23rd, 2014, 12:39 PM | #56 |
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The 300 is so well balanced, it doesn't take a whole lot of effort. I practiced it on the patio until I got the hang of it. It makes brief stops so much easier for us shorties.
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April 23rd, 2014, 02:13 PM | #57 |
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My goal is to trackstand for a full minute. But I'll prob have to do it standing on the pegs....defeats the purpose. More work =(
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April 23rd, 2014, 03:02 PM | #58 |
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April 23rd, 2014, 03:10 PM | #59 |
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April 23rd, 2014, 05:05 PM | #61 | |
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April 24th, 2014, 07:21 AM | #62 |
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Thanks @Motofool!
I think i lost some confidence with being off the bike for so long. Some parking lot practise is probably a very good idea.
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April 24th, 2014, 09:07 AM | #63 |
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I always use one foot or toe now. Generally if its flat ground I use my right foot down. Up hills or down hills I put my left down so I can be on the brake. The 848 is a bit taller so I have to pick a side before I stop. I actually can't get both feet down and touching at all.
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April 26th, 2014, 04:01 PM | #64 | |
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Note how the bike follows the sight of the rider and how smooth minute inputs control the changes in speed and direction (skip the first 30 seconds of the video):
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April 26th, 2014, 08:05 PM | #65 |
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Right foot down always for me. I like to use both brakes when coming to a stop(MSF class) and hold on to the front brake whenever I'm at the red light. That way I can shift to neutral pending traffic wait time or I can stay in 1st if I need to quickly move.
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April 28th, 2014, 05:40 PM | #66 |
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quick question, if you're one of the people putting your right foot down are you goofy footed on a snowboard/skateboard? if you put the left down are you regular?
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April 28th, 2014, 09:07 PM | #67 |
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I'm regular (snowboarding) and put left foot down on motorbike 95% of the time. Yet on a bicycle (road and mountain), I put right foot down 95% of the time. But but but but on my track bike (fixed gear), I put my left foot down.
Another question would be, if you ride both motorbikes and a bicycles, are your front brakes both controlled with the right lever? Or do you have the left lever as your front brake on a bicycle (universally accepted in the States). |
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April 28th, 2014, 09:43 PM | #68 | |
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^^^ amateur flatland bmx. We always tore the brakes off. If you need to stop, stuff your shoe in the tire. I wouldn't suggest trying that on the ninja though.
Also... Started trying that Captain Crash lean over to turn right Quote:
Both feet, almost all the time. Is it cuz I'm da noob?
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April 29th, 2014, 12:45 AM | #69 |
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How the hell did you do that?! The only way I can imagine that happening is if you engaged the clutch a very low revs causing the engine to sputter and almost stall. Because you'd be leaned over when this happened, to save it, you would have to very quickly disengage clutch bring revs up high, re-engage clutch and surge forward (while at an angle) throwing the bike around a bit. That what happened? I had something similar happen once.
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April 29th, 2014, 05:12 AM | #72 |
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I'm a right footer, most of the time.
Like Motofool, I like to have control of the transmission, my right hand stays on the brake lever to control rolling and flashing the brake light. I come to a complete stop, drop the right foot down, and leave my left by the shifter, ready to shift to neutral. I'm ready roll on and take off if necessary until the cars behind me have stopped. Once the cars behind me have safely come to a stop, I switch to neutral and double-foot it, hands on or off the bars, depending on the slope of the road I'm stopped on. A lot of times, I like to bounce from left to right to keep myself occupied... adhd. unless it's cold out, and then my hands always stay on the bars because of my heated grips. |
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April 29th, 2014, 08:49 AM | #73 |
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My right foot is on my rear brake by the time I've stopped. My goal is always to keep it up as long as possible with neither foot down...it's a fun game! But the left is always the first to touch since I love me some rear brake.
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Next time, try using only throttle and rear brake, leaving the clutch and front brake alone. Throttle opening can be kept more or less constant while you modulate the rear brake: more brake makes the bike fall into the turn, less brake stands the bike up and out of the turn. Rolling on a straight line, you can move at almost 0 mph using the same technique. P.S.- Note what foot Capt Crash puts down. https://www.ninjette.org/forums/show...2&postcount=33
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April 29th, 2014, 06:24 PM | #75 |
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From my horse experience I have learned to always vary this and practice on both sides, whether you like it or not.
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April 29th, 2014, 06:29 PM | #76 |
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April 29th, 2014, 08:12 PM | #77 |
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Yup. Merged it with this one.
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May 12th, 2014, 01:00 PM | #78 |
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MSF taught me to use the left so that I could keep my right foot on the rear brake as long as possible for emergency stops. In the real world, this has translated to me doing it most of the time unless I have reason to to one or the other.
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May 12th, 2014, 01:41 PM | #79 |
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I noticed another rider yesterday. He was in front of me with a naked 650 (Gladius). When approaching the red light, he put his left foot down when stopped.
Since this is a long light, he shifted into neutral when he saw me fully stopped behind him. Then he put both feet down. When the light turned green, he shifted into 1st and put his left foot back down while putting his right back on the peg. Mind you we are on a flat road. Then rolled forward. So much shuffling! I wonder why he didn't just take off with his right foot on the ground when the light turned green. |
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